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« on: September 06, 2014, 08:08:27 AM »

Do you have some songs or albums that took a while for you to be able to fully enjoy them? For instance I knew about Pet Sounds for a long time, but I didn't see its greatness. A few years later I listened to it again and I loved it. As far as songs go, I used to think that Be With Me was boring. I'm listening to it right now and I finally can see its greatness.
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2014, 08:51:27 AM »

Holland, for the longest time.
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2014, 09:09:15 AM »

I didn't like BB85 for the longest time (except for Getcha Back which I always loved). My biggest problem with the album was the production. After ignoring it for about 20 years I finally find myself enjoying it (including the synthy production). 'Crack At Your Love' found itself in my regular BB playlists. I'm wondering if Party will ever kick my ass, because it's the only BB album from the 60s I don't particularly care for (except for the awesome packaging...my copy still has the cut-out cards intact).
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2014, 09:38:17 AM »

I gotta admit that Pet Sounds took a long time for me to get into.  It wasn't until I heard the stereo mix that I could fully appreciate the depth of the arrangements, and it's been a favorite of mine ever since.
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2014, 11:31:55 AM »

Love You----and it hasn't finished growing on me yet. So this post is perhaps a trifle premature...

That said, things are now looking really promising, thanks in part to this board. :=) 
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2014, 12:05:34 PM »

Love You and especially Smiley Smile. Love 'em both a lot now.
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2014, 12:15:28 PM »

LA, KTSA, BB85, SIP
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2014, 12:23:36 PM »

As an adult, everything other than Brian Wilson's Pet Sounds through Surf's Up output took me a while to appreciate, because in adulthood I came to the Beach Boys as if there were a secret genius hiding in plain sight amongst the cheesiest band on the planet. That was my mindset. So I read about Pet Sounds, bought, and loved it. I read about Smile, found the various parts of it that were around in the late '90s, and worshipped it. As I did so, I learned more about Wilson's music, his style, and found his other music of that period impressive.

But the rest of it--either his music from earlier and later or the other guys' from anytime--took a lot longer to appreciate and love. For the earlier music, the problem was the aforementioned bias. I was spending far too much time being hipster-cool and far too little listening and just enjoying. For the other guys' stuff, the problem for me was that I was listening to it for Brian Wilson, having not really learned to listen for the good in what I was hearing rather than looking for what I wanted to hear. (This new approach has actually brought me tremendous pleasure from an enormous amount of music: simply listening to music on its terms.)

So from "I Get Around" to "It's OK" to "Surfer Girl" to "Slip On Through," pretty much everything except Brian Wilson in that sliver of time took me a while.
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2014, 12:46:27 PM »

I must admit that it took me a long time to appreciate friends and holland. I still don't appreciate bb85 or ktsa
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2014, 01:09:30 PM »

It took a good long time for me to fall in love with 'Shut Down Vol. 2,' but after repeated listens I finally began to really appreciate it.
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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2014, 01:10:30 PM »

Just about every album has at least one song that has grown on me. As albums, Wild Honey, Friends and Love You have grown on me to where I like them even more than Pet Sounds.  Holland and Smiley are up there as well. I don't dislike KTSA or 85 as much as I used to.
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2014, 02:14:48 PM »

Beach Boys: None, I like(d) every song they ever did to some extent.

Non-Beach Boys: Growing up, my parents used to play Frank Sinatra records which I didn't "get". I remember watching one of his TV specials and saying to my Mom and Dad, "What's so great about this guy?" Boy, was I a jerk.
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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2014, 02:36:08 PM »

The Beach Boys stuff I love - pretty much everything from '63-73, plus Love You, LA and '85 - I liked on first listen and have liked ever since. I find their music pretty immediate, I haven't had to really let any of it grow on me because I find I've liked it from the first listen. The stuff that hasn't had that effect on me - MIU or KTSA - I still don't particularly rate.
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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2014, 03:30:56 PM »

I remember being very disappointed when I first bought the SS/WH 2-fer back in the 90's upon first listen. Within a few days of repeated listenings, it became my most played cd for a while ("duh!" to self). There are still a few songs on WH that I just don't get ("A Thing Or Two", "How She Boogalooed It" and even the title track come to mind).

I really didn't get Love You when I first heard it but it also became one of my favorite albums. Same with Pet Sounds, Surf's Up, Carl & The Passions, etc. This music grows on you and then never goes away.
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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2014, 04:47:43 PM »

Friends and Love You
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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2014, 08:24:36 PM »

Holland and CATP

One day they both just seemed to click with me
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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2014, 11:21:55 PM »

Unlike Friends or Love You, Wild Honey took me a long time to appreciate. It's now one of my favorites.

Can't get into KTSA and don't plan to.
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2014, 01:22:36 AM »

I remember being very disappointed when I first bought the SS/WH 2-fer back in the 90's upon first listen. Within a few days of repeated listenings, it became my most played cd for a while ("duh!" to self). There are still a few songs on WH that I just don't get ("A Thing Or Two", "How She Boogalooed It" and even the title track come to mind).

I really didn't get Love You when I first heard it but it also became one of my favorite albums. Same with Pet Sounds, Surf's Up, Carl & The Passions, etc. This music grows on you and then never goes away.

See, it took one listen to the SS/WH two-fer - which I'd bought on a whim, having been taken by the amazing cover art - to convert me to a BB super-fan pretty much overnight. I distinctly remember sitting listening to Vegetables, then Falls Breaks..., then She's Goin' Bald, and loving what I was hearing more and more with every passing minute.
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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2014, 04:14:49 AM »

Marcella and a Wild Honey spring to mind
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2014, 04:38:26 AM »

I think the SS/WH twofer suffers from bad liner notes totally downplaying the music's overall brilliance.
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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2014, 04:55:29 AM »

I think the SS/WH twofer suffers from bad liner notes totally downplaying the music's overall brilliance.
Wow, funny you mention that. Couldn't agree more!

I've often thought many of the late 60s/early 70s twofers had substandard liner notes, but Smiley Smile/Wild Honey has to be one of the worst offenders. There are a number of negative asides regarding the songs and production, and how far short they fall of the high standards of Pet Sounds etc. I feel almost like they're apologizing to me for having sold me the music.

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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2014, 07:29:16 AM »

When I first heard Marcella on the Vol 3 of Greatest Hits (best of the Brother Years), I didn't instantly love it...it sounded really odd and weird to me, especially after Til I Die and Surf's Up...but after hearing a live version, and listening to the "one arm over my shoulder" section a few times, I started to love it!

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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2014, 08:39:30 AM »

I think the SS/WH twofer suffers from bad liner notes totally downplaying the music's overall brilliance.
Wow, funny you mention that. Couldn't agree more!

I've often thought many of the late 60s/early 70s twofers had substandard liner notes, but Smiley Smile/Wild Honey has to be one of the worst offenders. There are a number of negative asides regarding the songs and production, and how far short they fall of the high standards of Pet Sounds etc. I feel almost like they're apologizing to me for having sold me the music.



Agreed! David Leaf-penned if I remember rightly? Very annoying. The dismissal of Mt Vernon in the Holland sleeve notes grates on me as well... Imagine buying a Beatles CD and having liner notes which belittle the music.
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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2014, 08:55:44 AM »

I'm still not convinced that David Leaf is actually a Beach Boys fan.
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« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2014, 09:08:41 AM »

I think the SS/WH twofer suffers from bad liner notes totally downplaying the music's overall brilliance.
Wow, funny you mention that. Couldn't agree more!

I've often thought many of the late 60s/early 70s twofers had substandard liner notes, but Smiley Smile/Wild Honey has to be one of the worst offenders. There are a number of negative asides regarding the songs and production, and how far short they fall of the high standards of Pet Sounds etc. I feel almost like they're apologizing to me for having sold me the music.



I guess I saw it differently.  I thought it was just being honest.
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