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« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2014, 07:43:12 PM »

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« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2014, 07:45:39 PM »


Wha?  You didn't believe me??  Would I lie to ya?
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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2014, 08:12:50 PM »

Just linking the story and confirming the facts mam. police
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« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2014, 09:53:39 PM »

It clearly means member of the touring band...

In the same way that Jeff Foskett became a full time member again recently.
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« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2014, 11:25:46 PM »

here's a quick little exercise, take each of the ten past and present official members of The Beach Boys, and rank them in order of preference and contributions to the band. no.1 should be straight forward, but then it get's difficult. you are free to add reasons for your choices, if you like.


You do realize we had all 10 of them, right?  No need to choose one or the other.
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« Reply #30 on: August 27, 2014, 07:39:00 AM »

It clearly means member of the touring band...

Not to me it doesn't. There's no "touring" in the wording of that sentence. To most readers, including me, it means he's simply a member of the band. And "full-fledged", as I clarified above, means he not only played on stage, but making records and doing whatever a full member does. That article didn't limit Ed to be a touring musician. And he wasn't just a backup musician, he recorded on a few records too. It could be misconstrued, and some would think the article gave him more credit than credit was due.

Ya know, Al Jardine wasn't a "full-fledged" member of the Beach Boys until 1973.  Grin
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« Reply #31 on: August 27, 2014, 07:45:41 AM »

It clearly means member of the touring band...

Not to me it doesn't. There's no "touring" in the wording of that sentence. To most readers, including me, it means he's simply a member of the band. And "full-fledged", as I clarified above, means he not only played on stage, but making records and doing whatever a full member does. That article didn't limit Ed to be a touring musician. And he wasn't just a backup musician, he recorded on a few records too. It could be misconstrued, and some would think the article gave him more credit than credit was due.

Ya know, Al Jardine wasn't a "full-fledged" member of the Beach Boys until 1973.  Grin

Yeah and he didn`t record on a lot more.

You are right that the article could be misconstrued. I`m not sure why anyone would take a local newspaper`s words as gospel though.
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« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2014, 08:48:14 AM »

I didn't take it as gospel, and that's why I tried to clarify and questioned it after I posted it. Assuming the paper took Ed at his word and didn't write in their own take on his history and status in the band, then I'm assuming info coming from the horse's mouth in an interview is the final word until an untruth is revealed.
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« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2014, 09:02:57 AM »

1. Brian - Okay, the guy had some problems. As Carl said, he was the "Stalin of the studio." And he did force the band to stare at a bobble-head doll while they were recording confusing lyrics for Smile about Geronimo. Then there was the time when the rest of the band were recording their own song, "Add Some Music" and Brian came down to play some bizarre two-chord thing on the piano, his sole offering for the Sunflower album. Aside from all that, he did a good job.
2. Dennis - They said he lived a fast life but maybe he just liked a fast life.
3. Carl - He was the only person who supported Dennis, and listened intently to his music particularly after Dennis helped him do heavy lifting. Once called Brian the "Stalin of the studio." Extra points for being the only son to attend Murry's funeral - a good choice as that's where the deal to release Endless Summer was made.
4. Mike - A good man but once threw a deck chair in a rage. An excellent wordsmith despite not knowing what the literary device "alliteration" means.
5. Al - Kind of a background guy who mostly said some stuff in order to join in on group discussions. May have once called Brian the "Stalin of the studio" -- can't exactly recall at the moment.
6. Bruce - They're not saying "Boo"
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« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2014, 09:05:19 AM »

"And he did force the band to stare at a bobble-head doll while they were recording confusing lyrics for Smile about Geronimo."


Nice one  LOL LOL LOL LOL
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« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2014, 09:08:29 AM »

I didn't take it as gospel, and that's why I tried to clarify and questioned it after I posted it. Assuming the paper took Ed at his word and didn't write in their own take on his history and status in the band, then I'm assuming info coming from the horse's mouth in an interview is the final word until an untruth is revealed.

If it were a direct quote from him then I could agree. But the article is almost entirely focused on touring and it is easy to see how a comment of something like, `I was full time with The Beach Boys from 1975 to 1995` could be written down as, `I was a full time member of the band`.
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« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2014, 09:59:17 AM »

Right.  The words "full-fledged" are the ones that got me. To me, that means he was one of the actual band members (i.e. with Brian, Mike, Carl, Dennis, Al, Blondie, & Ricky). But he was portrayed on the album covers and concert programs as a supporting musician! I think maybe the paper article exaggerated a little bit.

You know, Nick, if you look at the inner sleeve of the "In Concert" album from '73, Ed Carter was behind the 8 ball. Literally!
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« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2014, 10:00:54 AM »

You know, Nick, if you look at the inner sleeve of the "In Concert" album from '73, Ed Carter was behind the 8 ball. Literally!

 LOL   Great line!
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« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2014, 10:01:48 AM »

It clearly means member of the touring band...

Not to me it doesn't. There's no "touring" in the wording of that sentence. To most readers, including me, it means he's simply a member of the band. And "full-fledged", as I clarified above, means he not only played on stage, but making records and doing whatever a full member does. That article didn't limit Ed to be a touring musician. And he wasn't just a backup musician, he recorded on a few records too. It could be misconstrued, and some would think the article gave him more credit than credit was due.

Ya know, Al Jardine wasn't a "full-fledged" member of the Beach Boys until 1973.  Grin

Is that true or was he just not a member of BRI until then?
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« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2014, 10:43:08 AM »

It clearly means member of the touring band...

Not to me it doesn't. There's no "touring" in the wording of that sentence. To most readers, including me, it means he's simply a member of the band. And "full-fledged", as I clarified above, means he not only played on stage, but making records and doing whatever a full member does. That article didn't limit Ed to be a touring musician. And he wasn't just a backup musician, he recorded on a few records too. It could be misconstrued, and some would think the article gave him more credit than credit was due.

Ya know, Al Jardine wasn't a "full-fledged" member of the Beach Boys until 1973.  Grin

Is that true or was he just not a member of BRI until then?
Just BRI. Prior to becoming a Corporate owner, he was full-fledged just like Bruce, Ricky and Blondie after him, and David before him. By the way, is Dave still considered a Beach Boy today?
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« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2014, 11:08:02 AM »

Doesn't "full-fledged" mean you're also a member of BRI?
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« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2014, 12:33:24 PM »

There was a discussion about who played what on a Beach Boys record. The subject of the "Beach Boys In Concert" ('73) came up. Somebody wanted to know who played that excellent lead guitar riff in the middle of Rhonda. One guy said it was Carl. Another said Blondie. I said Ed Carter.

It remains inconclusive......
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« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2014, 12:46:43 PM »

Was Ed Carter asked to be a beach boy?

Ed "Steady Eddie" Carter was recruited into the Beach Boys by Bruce Johnston in 1968. He became a full-fledged member in 1975 and left the band in 1995.

"full-fledged" nope
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« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2014, 01:37:54 PM »

Doesn't "full-fledged" mean you're also a member of BRI?
Yes, but only if stated that for BRI, not The Beach Boys as a rock band. Think of BRI as the Corporate Board of Directors and The Beach Boys as one of the companies under that corporate umbrella.
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Oh Brian
Thou Art In Hawthorne,
Harmonied Be Thy name
Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
Amen.  ---hypehat
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