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« on: August 15, 2014, 11:12:46 PM »

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/jeff-beck-brian-wilson-not-right/
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2014, 11:19:51 PM »

New story but nothing that really surprises me.
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2014, 11:32:03 PM »

Sounds like plain ol' Brian to me.
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2014, 12:57:36 AM »

A typical odd pairing that ended in the only possible way. The thing is that something's not quite right or normal with Brian, and he won't fake it-- not even on stage.
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2014, 01:24:03 AM »

The only thing I learn from this piece is that mr Beck isn't the greatest diplomat in the world - he could have phrased it otherwise.

And the picture is an ill-chosen one.
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2014, 01:43:40 AM »

The only thing I learn from this piece is that mr Beck isn't the greatest diplomat in the world - he could have phrased it otherwise.

And the picture is an ill-chosen one.

 LOL but I like that Mr Beck was not overly diplomatic about it.

I don't actually know a lot about Jeff Beck and how he behaves to know if he's a straight shooter or otherwise.
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2014, 02:40:03 AM »

Substitute Brian's name with "Mike Love" and the story suddenly seems rather funny.

When it comes to social interaction BW's probably been a bit of a strange guy for several decades. Some of these stories seem really awkward, sometimes to the point where they may sound a little disturbing. But then it's probably part of what makes him so utterly fascinating, I don't know.
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2014, 04:01:58 AM »

  Beck isn't exactly presenting a scoop to the world. Moreover Jeff is well known for not always working and playing well with others. I liked his guitar driven "Surf's Up" and look forward to his contribution to the new album.
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2014, 05:47:45 AM »

Substitute Brian's name with "Mike Love" and the story suddenly seems rather funny.

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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2014, 06:39:02 AM »

Thanks, Andrew for that.  So glad that Danny Boy is included. One would weep for its beauty, with
Beck's brilliant delivery.  "Noodling?" Seriously? I don't think so.
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2014, 06:57:06 AM »

“Brian never said a word. It was the most bizarre thing. I don’t know what’s going on with Brian, but perhaps it’s best left alone, not mention too much about that. Perhaps he’s so cool, he never speaks to anybody. [Laughs.]”

Beck later spent five weeks on the road with Wilson, only to run into him at a favorite deli — one that the former Beach Boys star frequents several times a day. “Sure enough,” Beck says, “within five minutes, he walked in. And on the way out, I said, ‘Hello, Brian,’ he said, ‘Hi!’ And he walked straight past me. [Laughs.] It was like I never existed, we had never toured for five weeks. There’s something not quite right.”


I think for the average person, that would be a very odd way to act towards someone you invite to play on your album and to tour with you. Even knowing how anti-social Brian can be, I'd still expect to have some sort of interaction with him if I went into the recording studio and toured with him. Whether it be about music, ice cream, whatever.
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2014, 07:31:47 AM »

Perhaps Brian was aware of Jeff's earlier comments regarding him and that's why he chose to not really acknowledge him in the deli?
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2014, 07:49:18 AM »

That's probably it, BW doesn't take disrespect from fools like Jeff Beck.
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2014, 07:52:02 AM »

Perhaps Brian was aware of Jeff's earlier comments regarding him and that's why he chose to not really acknowledge him in the deli?

Doubt it.  Sounds like Brian didn't even acknowledge Beck when they were touring together. 
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2014, 07:57:09 AM »

Interesting if Danny Boy is included. As a teacher, I have been forced to listen to this song far too many times at recitals and school concerts to ever want to hear it again but doubtless they can put their own spin on it.

The stories about Brian are not really a surprise. Rather tame in comparison with the old tales of farting in Marie Osmond`s face or sitting on the studio floor with his c*ck out.
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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2014, 08:02:04 AM »

If Beck doesn't know "what's wrong with Brian" then he just hasn't been paying attention.  Seriously. He needs to get over it.
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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2014, 08:10:37 AM »

  Beck isn't exactly presenting a scoop to the world. Moreover Jeff is well known for not always working and playing well with others. I liked his guitar driven "Surf's Up" and look forward to his contribution to the new album.
Jeff seems to be stalking Brian, maybe to get back in the sessions... Grin  He just "happened" to go to the neighborhood deli that he knew Brian went to several times a day?  It's right and normal for Brian.  Maybe Brian was taken aback, "What's that guy doing here?"
Jeff is never satisfied with his performances.  George Martin has a great story about how Jeff gave him a call wanting to get together to work on tracks for Blow by Blow, only to be told "I'm sorry, Jeff, but the record is in the shops!"  another George quote, "...he's not the most secure of people."
I too look forward to what Jeff bits end up on the album.  I hope it's more than just "Danny Boy."
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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2014, 08:53:28 AM »

I can't say that anything about Brian's behavior particularly surprises me.  The one piece of new information (if it is, in fact, correct) is that Beck will be featured on the new album in the form of guitar parts he had no intention of putting on the final album.  It's always hard to say whether that's accurate or if he's just saying it because he has a bone to pick with Brian and co, but if it is true it's concerning.
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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2014, 09:06:10 AM »

Beck's observations about Brian are probably accurate and nothing new. He should have known or been told what he was getting into. As for studio work, I think that's Beck's idiosyncrasies more than Brian's. As others have mentioned, he has as different approach in the studio. He did a whole "guitar concerto" with McCartney that never came out. It's a bummer though, the description of his work with Brian sounded really interesting. Now, I would imagine Brian's camp will get all butthurt and we'll never hear most of the stuff. I say Brian should put the stuff out anyway at some point.
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« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2014, 09:51:55 AM »

I can't say that anything about Brian's behavior particularly surprises me.  The one piece of new information (if it is, in fact, correct) is that Beck will be featured on the new album in the form of guitar parts he had no intention of putting on the final album.  It's always hard to say whether that's accurate or if he's just saying it because he has a bone to pick with Brian and co, but if it is true it's concerning.

Popular machine-gun-fingered jazz fusion Buddhist John McLaughlin tells a similar story about his playing on "In A Silent Way" from Miles Davis's album of the same name: he thought it was just a rehearsal, didn't realise that the tape was running and so delivered what he considered to be a really hesitant, tentative performance.  It turns out that this was exactly what Miles wanted and so it was used in this form on the album.  And it is a thing of quite marvellous shimmering brilliance.
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« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2014, 09:52:01 AM »

“Brian never said a word. It was the most bizarre thing. I don’t know what’s going on with Brian, but perhaps it’s best left alone, not mention too much about that. Perhaps he’s so cool, he never speaks to anybody. [Laughs.]”

Beck later spent five weeks on the road with Wilson, only to run into him at a favorite deli — one that the former Beach Boys star frequents several times a day. “Sure enough,” Beck says, “within five minutes, he walked in. And on the way out, I said, ‘Hello, Brian,’ he said, ‘Hi!’ And he walked straight past me. [Laughs.] It was like I never existed, we had never toured for five weeks. There’s something not quite right.”
Get over it, Beck...

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« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2014, 10:27:32 AM »

Jeff Beck can go get stuffed.
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« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2014, 10:35:53 AM »

Jeff is known to be a fairly bitter and unpleasent individual. Combine that with Brian's desire to just be left alone, you have a combo made in hell.
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« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2014, 10:36:56 AM »

Perhaps it's just me, but I find it intensely peculiar that Jeff claims Brian never talked to him, and yet his new stories are about the the times that Brian actually did talk to him.

And imagine that -- the one Beck track that Brian expressed enthusiasm for just happens to be the one that's on the album. Someone is getting what he wants out of this project.
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« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2014, 10:37:58 AM »

Take Beck's comments with a grain of salt. Actually, take them with a heaping pile of salt, because he's only telling a very small portion of what he could be discussing about his touring and working with Brian Wilson.

From all reports...that's Brian. Simple as that. If Beck was looking for something more tuned into a mythology of a notorious party-ready rock star, he'd naturally be disappointed. Because that isn't Brian and hasn't been Brian for a long time. If ever.

Now Beck is on tour with ZZ Top. Apart from Beck's obligatory 15 minute long blues free-for-all jams on songs like "Going Down" and trading licks on "La Grange", I wonder first if Beck is doing a similar jazz-fusion set like he did on the BW tour, and second how the crowds who go to see ZZ Top's brand of music are responding to it.

Keep this in mind: Those who saw the tour can chime in anytime...would it have been too much to ask for Beck to do at least one or two Yardbirds tunes, or even something more recognizable to the audience than the sets he played on the BW tour?
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