Stamos accused…

[The Shift]

Another rocket attack between camps?

From Nelson's Facebook page:

….a shame John sabotaged the Dennis Wilson video at The Beacon In NYC at the 2012 Beach Boys big 50th show …fake malfunction??...(towel around neck..waiting in the wing) to "save the day" as it were, in order to "show respect" and basically reinvent the word DOUCH?? John Stamos? We saw what you did…I was there…I saw the whole charade go down. Dennis Wilson would have punched your fucking lights out. no respect. Beach Boy fan? You? Are you fucking high??? Your the worst. Enjoy your golf buddies in Mike's band. - Nelson Bragg

From the couple of times I've met him, I rate Nelson as a hugely talented genuinely nice guy so this kind of severity is surprising. Or is it a wind up?

Btw if you've not heard his solo albums, your pace needs quickening!

[guitarfool2002]

Oh my. 

[Lowbacca]

I already posted it in the "Beacon" reviews thread earlier today. I hope a thread in the main section doesn't get out of hand.

But yes, I must say, this is a surprise coming from Bragg. Especially in that 'tone'. Guess we have confirmation now for what many of us had already suspected.

Btw if you've not heard his solo albums, your pace needs quickening!

Yap! I really liked his latest:

[SMiLE Brian]

If only OSD was here for this madness!!!!!!

[ToneBender631]

When Stamos joined them for the JB show that year, he played drums on a few more songs than usual, and screwed up the verse part of "I Get Around". Nelson was visibly agitated at the time as I recall.

[Gregg]

Maybe Stamos stole his chick.

Why would he lash out so long after the fact?

[ToneBender631]

Maybe Stamos stole his chick.

Why would he lash out so long after the fact?

Maybe he just read the (relatively) recent profile of Stamos in Guitar Aficionado? Or saw the TMZ coverage about the Manson claim?

[The Shift]

I already posted it in the "Beacon" reviews thread earlier today. I hope a thread in the main section doesn't get out of hand.

That was my fear but figured it's too out-there to slip on the end if a 2 year old review thread!

[relx]

It doesn't appear as if the post if still on Nelson's FB page--unless I am missing it somehow. It does say the last post, dated 6/12, was edited--was that where it appeared?

[Wirestone]

Still up there. Posted eight hours ago ...

www.facebook.com/nelson.bragg

[SMiLE Brian]

Where is the smoking unplugged guitar?

[Jason]

The epitome of classless.

[Rocker]

When it happened I figured it was just a fake because of how seriously angry the band members were (see the Rolling Stone article) but then I was told by others that they really had problems with the video so I didn't think much more about it.
What can I say? I wasn't there, I don't have any insight or information. I think it it could've been just a way to get Stamos on stage; it wouldn't be the first time the Beach Boys did something in bad taste. But I don't have much reason to really assert it was just a "hoax"

[Dancing Bear]

Well, I figure if Stamos really really wanted to be on stage and sing one lead he'd just ask his pal Mike and the Lovester would arrange it. Even if it happened just like Bragg is saying, what good will it bring to spill teh beans after two years? It's like Jeff Beck describing in interviews how comatose Brian was in the studio. I guess the Beach Boys' trademark classless is contagious.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Being a fan of this band has really become something of a nightmare.....

[Jason]

My fandom of the band is not based on what associates think. It's based on the music. I couldn't care less what a member of Brian's band (or any of the other bands) thinks.

[Andrew G. Doe]

This kinda ties in with what I, and I'm presuming several others here, was told at the time, that the band were very unhappy with JS being there and doing what he did.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

My fandom of the band is not based on what associates think. It's based on the music. I couldn't care less what a member of Brian's band (or any of the other bands) thinks.

+1

[Howie Edelson]

Slightly off track: From what two of the principles told me that night after the show, unlike the Carl vocal track on GOK being locked to the picture, the Dennis vocal was not (or vice versa?) For whatever reason, the musicians couldn’t hear that the Dennis vocal was not playing and were carrying on obliviously to a vocal-less performance. Personally, I was disappointed because “Forever” wasn’t played in New Orleans and this would be my first shot at seeing the new “production.” There were audible groans when Stamos “saved the day" -- along with the 19 other times during the show that he appeared doing schtick and bringing the musicianship of the band down.

My wife said the perfect line: "So, does he just get to come out on stage and do whatever her wants?"

Yep.

[Mikie]

I understood at the time that there was a legitimate malfunction. At the time, there didn't seem to be a big controversy about it and many thought that Stamos indeed "saved the day". It would be interesting to find out if it was a set-up, but it's a little hard to believe if it's true. Like the previous poster said, all he'd have to do is ask Mike to get up there and sing. Guess you really had to be there to see what really went down.

Something musta happened recently to piss Nelson off. Why would he wait this long to voice his displeasure over this issue? Is Stamos getting more gigs than Nelson these days?

[Justin]

I was front row at that gig and there was definite confusion on stage between the principle band members.  When it was clear DW's vocal was not going to be heard, Jeff motioned to Brian to jump in and start singing.  Brian did not seem to understand him.  Mike and Al looked at each other wondering what to do.  Stamos eventually did walk out and sing the lead.  If it was all planned then it was something planned privately between John and the sound guys (and maybe Mike) because it appeared no one on stage knew what was going on.  I do recall JS saying at the end of the performance that it was a good thing he was backstage and was able to save the song.

I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt that it was not planned.  From the get-go, he had always been respectful of the C50 tour and giving the band enough space and attention without him.  It doesn't seem to be in his character to plan something underhanded like this.  Nelson's comments come off as very surprising and I'd guess something recently happened for him to bring to light a 2 year old incident like this. 

[bossaroo]

The epitome of classless.

so it's classless to call out someone else's classlessness? hm.

[KittyKat]

It is a little silly from the standpoint that not only is it two years old "news" (if it is news at all), but that he posted it where very few people could see it, including John himself. Maybe Nelson was hoping the post would leak into other parts of the Internet.  Nelson needs to learn to spell (douche without the e at the end, your instead of you're).   

[bossaroo]

oh it'll leak alright 

[Autotune]

If planned, it didn't much for Stamos' image, did it? There must be some crap going between Bragg and Stamos. And I kinda like Bragg less after this. It is annoying addressing an imaginary list of people Dennis would punch. Let him RIP and solve your problems.