New BW gig, 8/30/14

[Andrew G. Doe]

Brian's playing at Fantasy Springs Resort Casino in Indio, CA.

Wait...

I thought only Mike & Bruce played casinos, and that Brian would never stoop so low. Obviously a misprint. 

[HeyJude]

Who said Brian never played casinos? The Beach Boys have been playing casinos since the late 70’s/early 80’s, and Brian has played casino venues on a number of occasions. This is like that ridiculous “Wineries” discussion from a few weeks back.

I’m befuddled as to why a notice for a single additional Brian Wilson show needs an op-ed component to it.

I can’t tell who the contempt is stronger for, Brian Wilson or these straw man “Brianista” fans that largely don’t seem to exist, at least not here.

I mean, there’s a point at which you kind of have to decide, if you have that much disdain for things an artist is doing and how they’re doing it, just move on to another band or something.

Back to the actual topic, sans snark, I'm curious to know if this is the front end of a larger tour, since other dates we have are in October. I also hope it means we might see an announcement soon for the album.

[Micha]

Brian is a genius, so he's allowed anything, as opposed to evil evil Mike Love. Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi!

Brian is a genius, he really is. I don't believe in evil people though.

[Cyncie]

Brian's playing at Fantasy Springs Resort Casino in Indio, CA.

Wait...

I thought only Mike & Bruce played casinos, and that Brian would never stoop so low. Obviously a misprint. 

I think both Brian and the Mike and Bruce show need the occasional casino because of more limited drawing power. The reunited Beach Boys don't. Therein lies the difference and the problem most people have.

[Shady]

Casinos aren't the problem, sea world is.

[Eric Aniversario]

Brian's playing at Fantasy Springs Resort Casino in Indio, CA.

Wait...

I thought only Mike & Bruce played casinos, and that Brian would never stoop so low. Obviously a misprint. 

This was actually one of the stops on the c50 tour. One of the three shows I got to see. It's a pretty decent venue.

[HeyJude]

Brian's playing at Fantasy Springs Resort Casino in Indio, CA.

Wait...

I thought only Mike & Bruce played casinos, and that Brian would never stoop so low. Obviously a misprint. 

I think both Brian and the Mike and Bruce show need the occasional casino because of more limited drawing power. The reunited Beach Boys don't. Therein lies the difference and the problem most people have.

A casino (or winery) may or may not have a larger capacity (and may or may not have higher ticket prices) than other venues these bands might play. I'm sure some casinos have big, grand halls or rooms that seat more people than some "proper" indoor theaters.

When Brian or Mike play casinos, it's usually not some sort of general admission "$5 at the door" sort of thing. They are booked just like any other venue, and tickets are sold in the same fashion.

I saw Ringo once at the "Cache Creek Casino & Resort"; it was literally just a HUGE hotel conference room/ballroom sort of setup. But it had a lot of seats, tickets were probably more expensive than when I had seen him at the Berkeley Community Theater or Concord Pavilion for instance, and tickets were sold on Ticketmaster just like any other show.

It seems like bands often if not usually do not really pay a lot of attention to what "type" of venues they book in terms of "reputation" or "perception." I think, ironically, there were some articles during C50 that mentions there actually was some thought put into some of the more "prestigious" venues or venues with good/hip reputations that they booked. I think the Greek Theater at UC Berkeley was interestingly one of those; it had been a number of years since an iteration of the Beach Boys had played there.

[bonnevillemariner]

Casinos aren't the problem, sea world is.

The SeaWorld gig seemed to be a huge topic during my formative days on this forum.  Seemed like it was all SeaWorld and casinos for a really long time.  I find AGD's jab rather appropriate.

[KittyKat]

People have complained here about Mike playing casinos. It may be more noticeable in Mike's case because he plays over 100 gigs a year, so he probably plays more casinos in a year than Brian ever does.

I looked on Brian's website, and there is nothing on this gig on the main tour page, nor either of his later gigs in Modesto and Long Beach. A fan mentioned it on Brian's message board, after noticing a news article on it a few days ago. The only things on Brian's tour page are the past gigs in Cork and Hopyard Farm.

[bonnevillemariner]

Off topic, but if I have any beef with Brian or any iteration of the Beach Boys playing in casinos, it's that I can't bring my kids.  I've got three sons, ages 9, 12, and 14 who are dying to see the Boys live.  Mike and band played at a casino down the road from us earlier this year, but sorry, kids.

[KittyKat]

It depends on the casino, doesn't it? I went to quite a few shows when I was a child at the Nevada casinos (Tahoe and Vegas). I remember my parents being very careful to keep us kids away from the casino floor, but there was no problems with the people in the theater. Other kids were there, too. Maybe the Indian casinos are different?

[SurfRiderHawaii]

It's a great venue. Some people just have to convolute the argument.

Problem is the legacy; and M&B play some real crapy venues. Like the casino near me.

[startBBtoday]

The C50 Beach Boys sold out one show at Mohegan Sun and played to near capacity the next night. Bruce Springsteen also just played there two nights in a row (both shows sold out).

Nothing wrong with playing casinos.

[bonnevillemariner]

It depends on the casino, doesn't it? I went to quite a few shows when I was a child at the Nevada casinos (Tahoe and Vegas). I remember my parents being very careful to keep us kids away from the casino floor, but there was no problems with the people in the theater. Other kids were there, too. Maybe the Indian casinos are different?

I wondered about that and actually called to check.  This particular venue (casino in Wendover, NV) didn't allow children in the theater, which is strange because I've actually stayed there with my kids, who had to walk thru the casino floor with me to register.

[Wirestone]

There are always distinctions. The Mohegan Sun, for instance, has a substantial indoor arena that's like any other concert venue. My sister and I saw the Queen + Adam Lambert show there last week. To me, that's different from someone actually playing to a roomful of gamblers (although I'm pretty sure BW has done at least a couple of those dates too).

I think the initial furor over Mike and Bruce at SeaWorld was much more about the contrast between the bigger, splashier venues used for the C50 shows, and the kind of venues he voluntarily returned to.

[KittyKat]

I did find it funny that when Mike later cancelled a gig at a SeaWorld property, Busch Tampa Gardens, due to the controversy over the "Blackfish" documentary, several people posted on his board that they hated him for cancelling that show and claiming that if it were Brian Wilson, Brian would never cancel on his fans. Well, considering his fans supposedly appreciate Brian for not playing that type of venue in the first place . . .

[Andrew G. Doe]

Who said Brian never played casinos? The Beach Boys have been playing casinos since the late 70’s/early 80’s, and Brian has played casino venues on a number of occasions. This is like that ridiculous “Wineries” discussion from a few weeks back.

I’m befuddled as to why a notice for a single additional Brian Wilson show needs an op-ed component to it.

I can’t tell who the contempt is stronger for, Brian Wilson or these straw man “Brianista” fans that largely don’t seem to exist, at least not here.

I mean, there’s a point at which you kind of have to decide, if you have that much disdain for things an artist is doing and how they’re doing it, just move on to another band or something.

Back to the actual topic, sans snark, I'm curious to know if this is the front end of a larger tour, since other dates we have are in October. I also hope it means we might see an announcement soon for the album.

Jesus dude, if you've got that small a sense of humor, I seriously suggest you shouldn't leave the house without someone to explain the jokes to you.

You any kin to The Cohen Of Silence ? 

[SMiLE Brian]

Going to Las Vegas taught me the difference between casinos and dive casinos.

[HeyJude]

Who said Brian never played casinos? The Beach Boys have been playing casinos since the late 70’s/early 80’s, and Brian has played casino venues on a number of occasions. This is like that ridiculous “Wineries” discussion from a few weeks back.

I’m befuddled as to why a notice for a single additional Brian Wilson show needs an op-ed component to it.

I can’t tell who the contempt is stronger for, Brian Wilson or these straw man “Brianista” fans that largely don’t seem to exist, at least not here.

I mean, there’s a point at which you kind of have to decide, if you have that much disdain for things an artist is doing and how they’re doing it, just move on to another band or something.

Back to the actual topic, sans snark, I'm curious to know if this is the front end of a larger tour, since other dates we have are in October. I also hope it means we might see an announcement soon for the album.

Jesus dude, if you've got that small a sense of humor, I seriously suggest you shouldn't leave the house without someone to explain the jokes to you.

You any kin to The Cohen Of Silence ? 

Nah, I get the humor. I just ignore when it's caked in disdain for fellow fans, or these straw man "Brianistas." I do admit one of my idiosyncrasies and where I sometimes go wrong is when I assume too much about the motivations behinds comments rather than the comments themselves. I suppose a comment needling
whomever has both criticized Mike for playing casinos and also claim Brian never has is ultimately rather innocuous (it didn't make me laugh either though; and I'm not sure how many people here have actually proposed the idea that Brian has never played casinos). But when I assume (perhaps wrongly) that the snark of the comment is motivated more by disdain for some subset of fans rather than a random bit of humorous commentary, it makes me wonder.

I could think of a million funny things to say about Brian, or Brian booking a gig, or any of the other BB's. Some folks on this board have been some of the only people to literally make me do spit takes laughing while reading (the person who posted the pic of Stamos with the "BAD" lineup for one; and plenty of folks in the "weird pics of Mike" thread).

I suppose it is kind of hilarious as I picture most of us here posting as something like this:



 

C'mon. That pic totally goes along with one of those "you mentioned bootlegs? gone!"

[Dave in KC]

Brian's concert at the Hard Rock in Las Vegas, October 1999, was a seminal moment in determining what came after. This is a fact.

[bgas]

Brian's concert at the Hard Rock in Las Vegas, October 1999, was a seminal moment in determining what came after. This is a fact.

  In that case, I'm going to party like it's 1999

[Andrew G. Doe]

Who said Brian never played casinos? The Beach Boys have been playing casinos since the late 70’s/early 80’s, and Brian has played casino venues on a number of occasions. This is like that ridiculous “Wineries” discussion from a few weeks back.

I’m befuddled as to why a notice for a single additional Brian Wilson show needs an op-ed component to it.

I can’t tell who the contempt is stronger for, Brian Wilson or these straw man “Brianista” fans that largely don’t seem to exist, at least not here.

I mean, there’s a point at which you kind of have to decide, if you have that much disdain for things an artist is doing and how they’re doing it, just move on to another band or something.

Back to the actual topic, sans snark, I'm curious to know if this is the front end of a larger tour, since other dates we have are in October. I also hope it means we might see an announcement soon for the album.

Jesus dude, if you've got that small a sense of humor, I seriously suggest you shouldn't leave the house without someone to explain the jokes to you.

You any kin to The Cohen Of Silence ?  

Nah, I get the humor.

So you say, after the event.  

Henceforth, for the likes of you, I'll start using something like #humor, or #sarcasm in any situation where I feel you might be in danger of taking my subtle English wit as being indeed serious. I'm considerate like that.

[Rocky Raccoon]

Wonder if Al will be with him.

[HeyJude]

Wonder if Al will be with him.

Interesting question. I would imagine they're lining up all the tour dates before making a full tour announcement. If it is a full tour and it's starting at the end of August, I would expect an announcement soon.

[HeyJude]

Who said Brian never played casinos? The Beach Boys have been playing casinos since the late 70’s/early 80’s, and Brian has played casino venues on a number of occasions. This is like that ridiculous “Wineries” discussion from a few weeks back.

I’m befuddled as to why a notice for a single additional Brian Wilson show needs an op-ed component to it.

I can’t tell who the contempt is stronger for, Brian Wilson or these straw man “Brianista” fans that largely don’t seem to exist, at least not here.

I mean, there’s a point at which you kind of have to decide, if you have that much disdain for things an artist is doing and how they’re doing it, just move on to another band or something.

Back to the actual topic, sans snark, I'm curious to know if this is the front end of a larger tour, since other dates we have are in October. I also hope it means we might see an announcement soon for the album.

Jesus dude, if you've got that small a sense of humor, I seriously suggest you shouldn't leave the house without someone to explain the jokes to you.

You any kin to The Cohen Of Silence ?  

Nah, I get the humor.

So you say, after the event.  

Henceforth, for the likes of you, I'll start using something like #humor, or #sarcasm in any situation where I feel you might be in danger of taking my subtle English wit as being indeed serious. I'm considerate like that.

That could actually help. Or make it sound even more like snark. It's worth a try!?! If you knew me, you'd know it takes a pretty specific type to make me the alleged humorless straight man.

It's ironic, it's kind of like reading Sean O'Hagan's description of Mike's "joking" jabs at him, or Bill Champlin's description of Brian in the Usher book. At least *someone* apparently thought it was funny, even if just one guy.