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August 08, 2014, 08:59:17 AM »
Woops, you accidentally compared Brian Wilson to credible mainstream artists again, as if anybody in this reality views him in the same light as Johnny Cash or Tom Petty. Let's keep in mind that we're discussing Daniel Johnston's placid father, could we?
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I didn't accidentally do anything - Not knowing your age or your perspective, but Johnny Cash for decades was not known as the "cool" or "hip" Johnny Cash that people view him as today. He was stone-cold, 100% country music. Outside of the country music circuit, he was known as a country artist and had not really crossed over to the point where too many listeners of alternative or rock or punk or whatever were actively buying his music. And like Brian Wilson's appeal, a lot of those "in the know" who knew Johnny beyond him being a country artist were musicians. The Beastie Boys through the Dust Brothers sampled him on Paul's Boutique - how many listeners of that album at the time would have owned one of Johnny's albums?
Let me give some perspective: Until the "American Recordings" revival and other related revisits of him and his music, culminating in the movie bio, do you know what kind of venues Johnny Cash was playing?
I call it the "lawn chair circuit". Outdoor venues where there was a stage and a big field in front of it, and the concert goers would carry their own lawn chairs to the show to see their favorite country acts. And related venues often included a dinner-theater type of atmosphere where the ticket would include a chicken dinner and cold drink to go with the music.
It was "traditional" country music for several decades before Cash became cool, before Willie became cool, and before country became arena and stadium-filling music. Very Americana, very middle America, and a specific demographic.
Now tell me this: Was the same demographic who view Johnny Cash as the ultimate bad-ass, as the real country rebel and punk going to see Johnny perform in the kinds of venues that he'd most often play for the decades before he became cool in a public sense? Were they watching The Nashville Network (TNN) in the 80's and 90's when Johnny would appear and sing gospel and religious-themed music more often than he did "Cocaine Blues"? Were they buying Johnny's traditional country albums before Rubin and the bio pic?
Sometimes it takes a little convincing to get new and untapped audiences to realize how good or even great an artist is regardless of what style or what genre they're lumped into. If marketing Johnny Cash or Tony Bennett as "cool" or "hip" is what it takes, than so be it. Many, many, many folks who would never have considered having a Cash or Bennett record in their collection became fans..and how were they convinced? Think about it.
Consider that. And consider the reaction Tom Petty got before and after he did the Super Bowl.
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I am very much looking forward to Brian's new album, and have no doubt it will be excellent.
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Quote from: donald on August 07, 2014, 01:13:14 PM
D. Will I be notified of the release in my monthly AARP magazine?
Hoping to get it with my Social Security direct deposit.
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I'm not well versed on Cash or Petty's history, and I am pretty young, so I thought that they were considered "cool" musicians from the get-go. My first impression of BDW was in his brief appearance in that 1987 Sgt. Pepper documentary, and he seemed like a total cracked up square to me, so I didn't give much thought to him. Of course like so many others, I quickly discarded such notions once it became apparent that he was a former avant-pop songwriter.
In my head, I've always classified him as a Daniel Johnston type. Since 1966 anyway. There's no way I can see him occupy the same space as any of his contemporaries, let alone Bennett or Santana. He's just too esoteric and far out. I know @BrianWilsonLive would disagree with me based on how often it uses the hashtag #Rockstar. Square peg in a round role.
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August 08, 2014, 12:15:41 PM »
Much will depend on the material's quality and how the commentariat reacts. It's high-risk, but potentially high reward.
And here's a thought experiment: What if we haven't heard of all the guest artists yet?
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Quote from: Wirestone on August 08, 2014, 12:15:41 PM
Much will depend on the material's quality and how the commentariat reacts. It's high-risk, but potentially high reward.
And here's a thought experiment: What if we haven't heard of all the guest artists yet?
What if? Its beginning to be a challenge to recall who has NOT played or guested on a BW/BB album, or appeared on one of their bio films.
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Jardine says Brian’s new solo album — on which he appears — will be released in October.
http://kslx.com/new-movie/
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Awesome!
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Nice news but it's pretty ridiculous they haven't even released a single to promote it
They should get moving
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Quote from: Tord on September 02, 2014, 11:52:51 AM
Jardine says Brian’s new solo album — on which he appears — will be released in October.
http://kslx.com/new-movie/
about time!!
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Quote from: Tord on September 02, 2014, 11:52:51 AM
Jardine says Brian’s new solo album — on which he appears — will be released in October.
http://kslx.com/new-movie/
Did he also say "Waves of Love" would be on it?
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If Al says it, it must be true!
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Al Jardine doing what he does best, come release time of any BBs-related product.
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Given that it's September 2nd, I'd be very surprised (but very happy) if the album is really set to be released in October. I guess if it was late October, that would be a solid month and a half of promotion, but it seems nowadays new albums are announced way in advance. I guess stranger things have happened in BB land.
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Didn't say
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October though, did he ?
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I have to say I'm very excited for this album.
I think we're in for something special
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Quote from: Shady on September 02, 2014, 04:00:31 PM
I have to say I'm very excited for this album.
I think we're in for something special
Sure! We all hope for that, right?
Maybe they'll include some of the "Proposed Brother Reissue tracks" as a bonus for purchase at Best Buy stores....
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I really hope it's released soon. I hope it's a great masterpiece. It's a big stretch to hope for something like that, but he has it in him.
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I wouldn't be surpised if it gets delayed till the end of the year (a la Christmas gift) or Easter, f.ex. Been so many times (TSS, APFC, TWGMTR, whatnot).
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Quote from: RangeRoverA1 on September 02, 2014, 08:27:49 PM
I wouldn't be surpised if it gets delayed till the end of the year (a la Christmas gift) or Easter, f.ex. Been so many times (TSS, APFC, TWGMTR, whatnot).
Oh come on, TIA, don't be so negative
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Nope, I'm being realistic. Deal with it.
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Nope, I'm being realistic. Deal with it.
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Quote from: Tord on September 02, 2014, 11:52:51 AM
Jardine says Brian’s new solo album — on which he appears — will be released in October.
http://kslx.com/new-movie/
YES!!
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We'll see.
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