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« Reply #1350 on: July 22, 2014, 05:14:41 PM »



Just because he may not be passionate about the guest singers, doesn`t mean that he hasn`t been passionately working on the music for the past 18 months.

Well... no... it kind of does mean he doesn't give a sh*t.  You can get a ton of examples of Brian not giving a sh*t on the last album he did that had guest artists.  Go check it out.  That's the whole point we're all trying to stab you with.  

So because GIOMH was crap then it follows that this will be a carbon copy?
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« Reply #1351 on: July 22, 2014, 05:14:53 PM »

It's only natural to have doubts, but it's no use trying to convince others that the album you haven't heard yet is going to be bad. You can voice your concerns about rapping on a BW album, but you can't outright criticize it before listening.

Sure you can.  You can criticize ideas, can't you?  It's a shitty idea.  I hope he proves me wrong, I hope it's the best rap song Brian Wilson's ever recorded.... but I doubt it.  
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« Reply #1352 on: July 22, 2014, 05:15:16 PM »

What I'm excited about are the reported Al/Brian lead vocal swaps n such!!!!! .... There hasn't yet been quite enough of that in the world!

Yes, that will be a highspot for sure.  It's kind of amazing that they haven't worked more together, since it seems they've never had a falling out or anything.


I wonder how Blondie's voice is holding up these days!


Either way, Blondie, Al, and Brian singing together could never possibly sound as bad as that Sting, Rod Stewart, Bryan Adams power ballad thingy from way back when.
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« Reply #1353 on: July 22, 2014, 05:17:04 PM »

Yeah, I can't believe that the man who wrote 'I Just Wasn't Made For These Times' in 1966 is including a pro LGBTQ country artist and an R&B singer who is bisexual on his album. How terrible.
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« Reply #1354 on: July 22, 2014, 05:17:16 PM »



Yes, that will be a highspot for sure.  It's kind of amazing that they haven't worked more together, since it seems they've never had a falling out or anything.

Certainly a falling out between the camps though...

In the BBC documentary from way back Al states, `They won`t let me call him.` or words to that effect.

Al`s lawsuits may not have helped.
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« Reply #1355 on: July 22, 2014, 05:17:22 PM »



Just because he may not be passionate about the guest singers, doesn`t mean that he hasn`t been passionately working on the music for the past 18 months.

Well... no... it kind of does mean he doesn't give a sh*t.  You can get a ton of examples of Brian not giving a sh*t on the last album he did that had guest artists.  Go check it out.  That's the whole point we're all trying to stab you with.  

So because GIOMH was crap then it follows that this will be a carbon copy?

This is the "logic" of the argument it seems.

Yet Ray Lawlor says this new material is just like that of the Life suite on TWGMTR. . . but we'll just ignore that nugget of information for the sake of carrying on this same monotonous argument for another 30 pages.
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« Reply #1356 on: July 22, 2014, 05:17:28 PM »

It's only natural to have doubts, but it's no use trying to convince others that the album you haven't heard yet is going to be bad. You can voice your concerns about rapping on a BW album, but you can't outright criticize it before listening.

Sure you can.  You can criticize ideas, can't you?  It's a shitty idea.  I hope he proves me wrong, I hope it's the best rap song Brian Wilson's ever recorded.... but I doubt it.  

There's also the very real possibility that any one of these reported duets might not even make the finished album.
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« Reply #1357 on: July 22, 2014, 05:17:57 PM »



Just because he may not be passionate about the guest singers, doesn`t mean that he hasn`t been passionately working on the music for the past 18 months.

Well... no... it kind of does mean he doesn't give a sh*t.  You can get a ton of examples of Brian not giving a sh*t on the last album he did that had guest artists.  Go check it out.  That's the whole point we're all trying to stab you with.  

So because GIOMH was crap then it follows that this will be a carbon copy?

The best indicator of future results is past experience.  

Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

Fool me once, shame on Brian Wilson.  Fool me twice, shame on me!

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« Reply #1358 on: July 22, 2014, 05:19:26 PM »

What I'm excited about are the reported Al/Brian lead vocal swaps n such!!!!! .... There hasn't yet been quite enough of that in the world!

Yes, that will be a highspot for sure.  It's kind of amazing that they haven't worked more together, since it seems they've never had a falling out or anything.


I wonder how Blondie's voice is holding up these days!


Either way, Blondie, Al, and Brian singing together could never possibly sound as bad as that Sting, Rod Stewart, Bryan Adams power ballad thingy from way back when.

So, you're suggesting then, that three guys who are friends and worked together years ago, will end up sounding better than 3 dudes who got thrown into a recording because they were all commercially successful but didn't know each other?

Nah.... can't be. 
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« Reply #1359 on: July 22, 2014, 05:20:35 PM »

The best indicator of future results is past experience.  

Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

Fool me once, shame on Brian Wilson.  Fool me twice, shame on me!

etc. etc. etc.

GIOMH sounds like Brian cut every song in one vocal take and couldn`t wait to get out of the studio.

The new album he has worked on for 18 months.

There is no comparison.
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« Reply #1360 on: July 22, 2014, 05:22:06 PM »

The best indicator of future results is past experience.  

Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

Fool me once, shame on Brian Wilson.  Fool me twice, shame on me!

etc. etc. etc.

GIOMH sounds like Brian cut every song in one vocal take and couldn`t wait to get out of the studio.

The new album he has worked on for 18 months.

There is no comparison.

No, no, Nicko. Only Brian's handlers, guest singers, and Joe Thomas have been working on this record.
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« Reply #1361 on: July 22, 2014, 05:23:52 PM »



Just because he may not be passionate about the guest singers, doesn`t mean that he hasn`t been passionately working on the music for the past 18 months.

Well... no... it kind of does mean he doesn't give a sh*t.  You can get a ton of examples of Brian not giving a sh*t on the last album he did that had guest artists.  Go check it out.  That's the whole point we're all trying to stab you with.  

So because GIOMH was crap then it follows that this will be a carbon copy?

This is the "logic" of the argument it seems.

Yet Ray Lawlor says this new material is just like that of the Life suite on TWGMTR. . . but we'll just ignore that nugget of information for the sake of carrying on this same monotonous argument for another 30 pages.

Ray seems like a nice enough guy, but the day I trust Ray's ears of what he says he's heard, over my ears of what I've already heard, will be the day Alzheimer's finally wins.
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« Reply #1362 on: July 22, 2014, 05:25:29 PM »

I can't believe you just insulted Ray like that.
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« Reply #1363 on: July 22, 2014, 05:25:34 PM »



Just because he may not be passionate about the guest singers, doesn`t mean that he hasn`t been passionately working on the music for the past 18 months.

Well... no... it kind of does mean he doesn't give a sh*t.  You can get a ton of examples of Brian not giving a sh*t on the last album he did that had guest artists.  Go check it out.  That's the whole point we're all trying to stab you with.  

So because GIOMH was crap then it follows that this will be a carbon copy?

This is the "logic" of the argument it seems.

Yet Ray Lawlor says this new material is just like that of the Life suite on TWGMTR. . . but we'll just ignore that nugget of information for the sake of carrying on this same monotonous argument for another 30 pages.

Ray seems like a nice enough guy, but the day I trust Ray's ears of what he says he's heard, over my ears of what I've already heard, will be the day Alzheimer's finally wins.

Oh, you mean the nine seconds that you've heard versus the multiple full songs that Ray has heard?
Yeah, that seems reasonable.
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« Reply #1364 on: July 22, 2014, 05:26:38 PM »

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« Reply #1365 on: July 22, 2014, 05:28:40 PM »



Just because he may not be passionate about the guest singers, doesn`t mean that he hasn`t been passionately working on the music for the past 18 months.

Well... no... it kind of does mean he doesn't give a sh*t.  You can get a ton of examples of Brian not giving a sh*t on the last album he did that had guest artists.  Go check it out.  That's the whole point we're all trying to stab you with.  

So because GIOMH was crap then it follows that this will be a carbon copy?

This is the "logic" of the argument it seems.

Yet Ray Lawlor says this new material is just like that of the Life suite on TWGMTR. . . but we'll just ignore that nugget of information for the sake of carrying on this same monotonous argument for another 30 pages.

Ray seems like a nice enough guy, but the day I trust Ray's ears of what he says he's heard, over my ears of what I've already heard, will be the day Alzheimer's finally wins.

And the day I use GIOMH and a 10 second iphone clip as a means to judge this new album with, will be the day I lose any concept of logical thought as well.
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« Reply #1366 on: July 22, 2014, 05:30:18 PM »



Just because he may not be passionate about the guest singers, doesn`t mean that he hasn`t been passionately working on the music for the past 18 months.

Well... no... it kind of does mean he doesn't give a sh*t.  You can get a ton of examples of Brian not giving a sh*t on the last album he did that had guest artists.  Go check it out.  That's the whole point we're all trying to stab you with.  

So because GIOMH was crap then it follows that this will be a carbon copy?

The best indicator of future results is past experience.  

Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

Fool me once, shame on Brian Wilson.  Fool me twice, shame on me!

etc. etc. etc.


Every one of the guests on this album is making good music in the last two years and is under 30. It's p much the exact opposite of GIOMH, if you actually knew anything about modern music.
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« Reply #1367 on: July 22, 2014, 05:30:31 PM »

Go to bed Ron, you are drunk on moonshine again.
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« Reply #1368 on: July 22, 2014, 05:31:04 PM »



Just because he may not be passionate about the guest singers, doesn`t mean that he hasn`t been passionately working on the music for the past 18 months.

Well... no... it kind of does mean he doesn't give a sh*t.  You can get a ton of examples of Brian not giving a sh*t on the last album he did that had guest artists.  Go check it out.  That's the whole point we're all trying to stab you with.  

So because GIOMH was crap then it follows that this will be a carbon copy?

This is the "logic" of the argument it seems.

Yet Ray Lawlor says this new material is just like that of the Life suite on TWGMTR. . . but we'll just ignore that nugget of information for the sake of carrying on this same monotonous argument for another 30 pages.

Ray seems like a nice enough guy, but the day I trust Ray's ears of what he says he's heard, over my ears of what I've already heard, will be the day Alzheimer's finally wins.

Oh, you mean the nine seconds that you've heard versus the multiple full songs that Ray has heard?
Yeah, that seems reasonable.

No, I mean the complete album of half-assed sh*t that I've heard 10 years ago the last time Brian was forced to work with people he didn't really give a sh*t about working with.  
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« Reply #1369 on: July 22, 2014, 05:32:28 PM »



Just because he may not be passionate about the guest singers, doesn`t mean that he hasn`t been passionately working on the music for the past 18 months.

Well... no... it kind of does mean he doesn't give a sh*t.  You can get a ton of examples of Brian not giving a sh*t on the last album he did that had guest artists.  Go check it out.  That's the whole point we're all trying to stab you with.  

So because GIOMH was crap then it follows that this will be a carbon copy?

This is the "logic" of the argument it seems.

Yet Ray Lawlor says this new material is just like that of the Life suite on TWGMTR. . . but we'll just ignore that nugget of information for the sake of carrying on this same monotonous argument for another 30 pages.

Ray seems like a nice enough guy, but the day I trust Ray's ears of what he says he's heard, over my ears of what I've already heard, will be the day Alzheimer's finally wins.

And the day I use GIOMH and a 10 second iphone clip as a means to judge this new album with, will be the day I lose any concept of logical thought as well.

If you were around when the stinking turd that was GIOMH dropped, you would have been excited as hell too with all of the Ray's telling us how great it was going to be.  Then... Duh duh duhhhhhh.  Horror.  Shock.  Sadness. 

Just sayin'.  The album might suck.  I hope it doesn't.  Sounds like it will.  Just my opinion, you're free to have yours. 
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« Reply #1370 on: July 22, 2014, 05:33:19 PM »

If you actually read this thread, Brian knows Zooey so well that she babysits his kids.
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« Reply #1371 on: July 22, 2014, 05:33:23 PM »



Just because he may not be passionate about the guest singers, doesn`t mean that he hasn`t been passionately working on the music for the past 18 months.

Well... no... it kind of does mean he doesn't give a sh*t.  You can get a ton of examples of Brian not giving a sh*t on the last album he did that had guest artists.  Go check it out.  That's the whole point we're all trying to stab you with.  

So because GIOMH was crap then it follows that this will be a carbon copy?

The best indicator of future results is past experience.  

Those who don't learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

Fool me once, shame on Brian Wilson.  Fool me twice, shame on me!

etc. etc. etc.


Every one of the guests on this album is making good music in the last two years and is under 30. It's p much the exact opposite of GIOMH, if you actually knew anything about modern music.

I hope you're right!
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« Reply #1372 on: July 22, 2014, 05:34:18 PM »

Why is it an insult to Ray Lawlor to say he's entitled to his opinion, but other people may not have an identical opinion once they hear the album? Some people may like it even more than Ray, some people may like it less. Some people may like or love it but not compare it to the life suite. Having people who have heard it in advance and say things about it doesn't make it so for another person's experience once they have the same opportunity. That also goes for Don Was and his remarks in the latest RS article.  The fans and also music critics will form their own opinions once it's released. Maybe it will mirror what has been said -- or not.
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« Reply #1373 on: July 22, 2014, 05:34:33 PM »

If you actually read this thread, Brian knows Zooey so well that she babysits his kids.

Really?
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« Reply #1374 on: July 22, 2014, 05:35:22 PM »

If you actually read this thread, Brian knows Zooey so well that she babysits his kids.

Exactly, and Frank painted his house, Kacey washes his car in cowboy boots, and Lana dropped acid in his pool.  We'll see how the album turns out.  
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