*Merged* Brian Wilson current album thread

[Gabo]

i'll only buy this album if Conchita Wurst is pulled in

[Ron]

Does anybody know for sure if they played the Kacey song somewhere today?  It's not on that link, just a pretty horrible sounding Lana Del Ray...

[The Dumb Angel]

For those interested.  Haven't listened to it yet, but I think this is it:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUzDClWO4XM

Mandy's got it right. People have no right berating and completely blowing off an album that hasn't even been released yet. It could be great, or it could be a terrible mistake, but just wait until you actually hear it before you criticize.

[GoodVibrations33]

Does anybody know for sure if they played the Kacey song somewhere today?  It's not on that link, just a pretty horrible sounding Lana Del Ray...

Yea, somebody mentioned earlier in the thread that they did play a clip, but I am unsure now.

[KittyKat]

Lana Del Rey is a poseur. Poor little rich girl whose father has bought her a music career. Sorry to be such a d*** about it, according to some here. But out of the three women that Brian is dueting with, she has the highest sales figures, so that's why she's there.  I do think her saying such things about wishing she were dead makes her a bit of a bad role model to her younger fans, but that's not Brian's management's problem, is it?

How many albums have you sold? Is Brian a poseur because Murry hooked them up with the Morgans? Brian's struggled with mental illness and depression so he too is a terrible role model.

It doesn't matter "how many albums" I've sold because I'm not in her field. It's like saying people aren't entitled to their opinion about Kanye West because they didn't ever sell as many albums as Kanye West.

There is a difference between being mentally ill in private and saying you want to kill yourself in public interviews. I'm not sure Brian ever did the latter. He was also never an attractive young woman. My concern about Lana saying that is that there are young girls who look up to women stars as role models, especially ones who sell themselves in a glamorous way. I'm not even sure Britney Spears, for all her meltdowns,  ever told an interviewer she looked forward to dying. I'm not sure to blame Lana for that entirely. Maybe her handlers should look carefully at what their client is saying. Maybe she does need and isn't getting help. If she's just doing it for attention, that's a pretty bad way to get attention, in light of the rate of young people who self-harm.  

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

It doesn't matter "how many albums" I've sold because I'm not in her field. It's like saying people aren't entitled to their opinion about Kanye West because they didn't ever sell as many albums as Kanye West.

Yeah, but calling her a poseur and that she had her way paid into the industry? If someone had 'paid' your 'way' into the industry, would you be as successful? There's one thing in having an opinion and not liking her music (I'm not a real big fan myself, although she does have an interesting voice)...that's perfectly cool. What you said though was borderline slander.

There is a difference between being mentally ill in private and saying you want to kill yourself in public interviews. I'm not sure Brian ever did the latter. He was also never an attractive young woman. My concern about Lana saying that is that there are young girls who look up to women stars as role models, especially ones who sell themselves in a glamorous way. I'm not even sure Britney Spears, for all her meltdowns,  ever told an interviewer she looked forward to dying. I'm not sure to blame Lana for that entirely. Maybe her handlers should look carefully at what their client is saying. Maybe she does need and isn't getting help. If she's just doing it for attention, that's a pretty bad way to get attention, in light of the rate of young people who self-harm.  

From what I've heard through various channels is that she is at the very least 'eccentric', and I don't think it was attention-seeking in the least. I had a WTF reaction when I heard she was working with Brian, and not for musical reasons.

Interesting, though, that you brought up Britney Spears, in that her mental/emotional state is far, far closer to Brian's than many realize...or rather, the Landy-era Brian.

[Ron]

I've noticed that about Britney before too.  Very similar to Brian.  Luckily she's turned things around however and seems to be happy, raising her children, and has a ... revitalized I guess in a way career (she has a show in Vegas).  She has a conservator, etc.

[Andrew G. Doe]

I've noticed that about Britney before too.  Very similar to Brian. Luckily she's turned things around however and seems to be happy, raising her children, and has a ... revitalized I guess in a way career (she has a show in Vegas).  She has a conservator, etc.

Ah... care to point me towards her equivalent of Pet Sounds, that she co-wrote, arranged, produced and that regularly tops Best Album of All Time polls ?  That one seems to have slipped under my radar.  

Re: Lana Del Ray, she has a new album to promote. Dunno about anyone else but I'd be surprised if she didn't do something like that. That said, looks like Brian's management made another sterling career decision.

[Micha]

I wonder why Brian doesn't want to write with Mike?

Brian: "Say, Sweetie, how about writing a song just you and me together in a room?"

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I've noticed that about Britney before too.  Very similar to Brian. Luckily she's turned things around however and seems to be happy, raising her children, and has a ... revitalized I guess in a way career (she has a show in Vegas).  She has a conservator, etc.

Ah... care to point me towards her equivalent of Pet Sounds, that she co-wrote, arranged, produced and that regularly tops Best Album of All Time polls ?  That one seems to have slipped under my radar. 

Re: Lana Del Ray, she has a new album to promote. Dunno about anyone else but I'd be surprised if she didn't do something like that. That said, looks like Brian's management made another sterling career decision.

Andrew,  Ron was referring to her emotional and mental well-being. She's very much like the Landy-era Brian in that regard, among others (obviously not musically). The general public would sh*t if they knew the extent.

[JohnMill]

I've noticed that about Britney before too.  Very similar to Brian. Luckily she's turned things around however and seems to be happy, raising her children, and has a ... revitalized I guess in a way career (she has a show in Vegas).  She has a conservator, etc.

Ah... care to point me towards her equivalent of Pet Sounds, that she co-wrote, arranged, produced and that regularly tops Best Album of All Time polls ?  That one seems to have slipped under my radar. 

Re: Lana Del Ray, she has a new album to promote. Dunno about anyone else but I'd be surprised if she didn't do something like that. That said, looks like Brian's management made another sterling career decision.

Andrew,  Ron was referring to her emotional and mental well-being. She's very much like the Landy-era Brian in that regard, among others (obviously not musically). The general public would sh*t if they knew the extent.

The only thing I'd question on that is comparing one person's mental state to another is pretty precarious business.  In my many years now as a Beach Boys/Brian Wilson fan I've heard countless lay psychologists try to diagnose exactly what "Brian's condition" is, what facilitated it, what triggers his up and down swings, what could have been done to prevent it and about every other conceivable topic known to man.  Brian Wilson has been in a word: dissected and many times to no good end.  I'm not getting on Ron or anyone else for making a comparison but again we aren't talking about similarities in their professional careers but their psyches which in my opinion is a pretty slippery slope to begin with.

[adamghost]

People living in the maw of fame are under pressures, and divorced in many cases from outside perspective and a real support system, in ways most of us can't even fathom.  Add to that the extreme youth of many people thrust into that situation, and the general lack of sympathy and fickle nature of the public, who mostly view a celebrity as an avatar for either themselves or the things they don't like and not as a real human individual, and it's just not something I envy.

[Jim V.]

Re: Lana Del Ray, she has a new album to promote. Dunno about anyone else but I'd be surprised if she didn't do something like that. That said, looks like Brian's management made another sterling career decision.

Yeah, she seems like a real idiot. Who thinks that spouting stupid sh*t is the ticket to attention.

[The Heartical Don]

i'll only buy this album if Conchita Wurst is pulled in

I'll only buy this album if Conchita Wurst is not pulled in.

[JohnMill]

Re: Lana Del Ray, she has a new album to promote. Dunno about anyone else but I'd be surprised if she didn't do something like that. That said, looks like Brian's management made another sterling career decision.

Yeah, she seems like a real idiot. Who thinks that spouting stupid sh*t is the ticket to attention.

Miley Cyrus?

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Re: Lana Del Ray, she has a new album to promote. Dunno about anyone else but I'd be surprised if she didn't do something like that. That said, looks like Brian's management made another sterling career decision.

Yeah, she seems like a real idiot. Who thinks that spouting stupid sh*t is the ticket to attention.

Being an idiot and having emotional/mental issues are two different things.

Different from Miley Cyrus, whose behaviour is explained by being high/lit much of the time

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Who in the blue gravy hell is Conchita Wurst? Any relationship to Liver?

[GoodVibrations33]

http://instagram.com/p/pO6u-Wjm3u/

[Dudd]

 

[alf wiedersehen]

Brian looks great

He has been looking pretty good in these recent photos.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Brian looks great

[GoodVibrations33]

Brian looks great

Stacey Kacey doesn't look too bad herself!! 

[Ron]

I've noticed that about Britney before too.  Very similar to Brian. Luckily she's turned things around however and seems to be happy, raising her children, and has a ... revitalized I guess in a way career (she has a show in Vegas).  She has a conservator, etc.

Ah... care to point me towards her equivalent of Pet Sounds, that she co-wrote, arranged, produced and that regularly tops Best Album of All Time polls ?  That one seems to have slipped under my radar.  

Stop being obtuse for once in your life, you know what the f*** I meant. 

[Ron]

I've noticed that about Britney before too.  Very similar to Brian. Luckily she's turned things around however and seems to be happy, raising her children, and has a ... revitalized I guess in a way career (she has a show in Vegas).  She has a conservator, etc.

Ah... care to point me towards her equivalent of Pet Sounds, that she co-wrote, arranged, produced and that regularly tops Best Album of All Time polls ?  That one seems to have slipped under my radar. 

Re: Lana Del Ray, she has a new album to promote. Dunno about anyone else but I'd be surprised if she didn't do something like that. That said, looks like Brian's management made another sterling career decision.

Andrew,  Ron was referring to her emotional and mental well-being. She's very much like the Landy-era Brian in that regard, among others (obviously not musically). The general public would sh*t if they knew the extent.

The only thing I'd question on that is comparing one person's mental state to another is pretty precarious business.  In my many years now as a Beach Boys/Brian Wilson fan I've heard countless lay psychologists try to diagnose exactly what "Brian's condition" is, what facilitated it, what triggers his up and down swings, what could have been done to prevent it and about every other conceivable topic known to man.  Brian Wilson has been in a word: dissected and many times to no good end.  I'm not getting on Ron or anyone else for making a comparison but again we aren't talking about similarities in their professional careers but their psyches which in my opinion is a pretty slippery slope to begin with.

You're correct of course... the point I was agreeing with (I didn't originally make the point) was that Britney is surprisingly similar to Brian in that way.  As you say you don't see that too often, but there it is. 

[Ron]

http://instagram.com/p/pO6u-Wjm3u/

Yeah!  That's what I'm talking about.  I'm hoping we get to hear the song pretty soon.