*Merged* Brian Wilson current album thread

[guitarfool2002]

I LOVE BRIAN WILSON!!!

Just for being Brian Wilson!

Good on him!  a shame he still has to fight for his artistic freedom as he says, after 50 years!!!

Stupid People..... and we are the smartest species???..... 

RickB

Be careful not to judge the bullshit of a few agitators to be representative of the majority.  

[Dudd]

It's rare to see Brian fight back like that - IF THAT IS HIM.
Either way, it's pretty ballsy of them to up and use "f***" in a Facebook post.

[alf wiedersehen]

For those of you keeping score at home:

Collaborators:
Jeff Beck, (Don Was), (Jim Keltner), Al Jardine, (David Marks), Vinnie Colaiuta ,Tal Winkenfeld, Blondie Chaplin, (Burt Bacharach), Kacey Musgraves, Zooey Deschanel, Lana Del Rey, (Frank Ocean), Matt Jardine
[Parentheses signifies uncertain involvement]

Songs:
"Right Time", "Guess You Had to Be There", "Metropolis", "He Come Down", "Sail Away", "Last Song", "Sharing a New Day", "On the Island", "Special Love", the Life Suite

I stole this from Judd

[Dudd]

oh you piece of sh*t

[guitarfool2002]

Who gets the feeling that the person who wrote that post was also aiming it at this board

... Just a thought

I think people declaring music they haven't even heard one second of a "failure", a "disaster", or any of the other negatives is considered 100% bullshit far beyond this board and Facebook.  

...and the same thing goes for movies.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

For those comparing this (which we have not heard) to GIOMH, I must ask the following...did Brian show the least bit interested in it during the 'promotion' (if we can even call it that) of that album? This is the most hyped I've seen Brian about any of his solo projects, BWPS excepted.

[Cyncie]

Who gets the feeling that the person who wrote that post was also aiming it at this board

... Just a thought

I thought the same thing.

[guitarfool2002]

Who gets the feeling that the person who wrote that post was also aiming it at this board

... Just a thought

I thought the same thing.

Who gets the feeling that the person who wrote that post was also aiming it at this board

... Just a thought

I think people declaring music they haven't even heard one second of a "failure", a "disaster", or any of the other negatives is considered 100% bullshit far beyond this board and Facebook.  

...and the same thing goes for movies.

If the shoe fits...

[Dudd]

For those comparing this (which we have not heard) to GIOMH, I must ask the following...did Brian show the least bit interested in it during the 'promotion' (if we can even call it that) of that album? This is the most hyped I've seen Brian about any of his solo projects, BWPS excepted.

That's true. Plus the fact that I think this is the longest he's ever worked on an album. I do believe we've passed up the Smile sessions...

I stole this from Bubbly Waves

[Cyncie]

Who gets the feeling that the person who wrote that post was also aiming it at this board

... Just a thought

I think people declaring music they haven't even heard one second of a "failure", a "disaster", or any of the other negatives is considered 100% bullshit far beyond this board and Facebook.  

...and the same thing goes for movies.

It's a strange contradiction. We love this guy's music because he dared to get out of the box. But, then we want to keep him stuck in the box he made in 1966.

[guitarfool2002]

Who gets the feeling that the person who wrote that post was also aiming it at this board

... Just a thought

I think people declaring music they haven't even heard one second of a "failure", a "disaster", or any of the other negatives is considered 100% bullshit far beyond this board and Facebook.  

...and the same thing goes for movies.

It's a strange contradiction. We love this guy's music because he dared to get out of the box. But, then we want to keep him stuck in the box he made in 1966.

That's a valid point, yes. The fact that no one has heard it yet somehow folks here and on Facebook already know what it sounds like enough to form a negative opinion is infuriating enough for an outside observer. How about the guy actually making the music who is reading this stuff?

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

good point cyncie!

[Shady]

Who gets the feeling that the person who wrote that post was also aiming it at this board

... Just a thought

I think people declaring music they haven't even heard one second of a "failure", a "disaster", or any of the other negatives is considered 100% bullshit far beyond this board and Facebook.  

...and the same thing goes for movies.

It's a strange contradiction. We love this guy's music because he dared to get out of the box. But, then we want to keep him stuck in the box he made in 1966.

A very good point.

We should all hang our heads.

[guitarfool2002]

Not everyone is doing that, so there isn't as much of a "we", right?

[MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm]

This just posted to Brian's Facebook:

To my fans: it kind of bums me out to see some of the negativity here about the album I’ve been working so hard on. In my life in music, I’ve been told too many times not to f*** with the formula, but as an artist it’s my job to do that – and I think I’ve earned that right.
I’m really proud of these new songs and to hear these great artists sing on them just blows me away. I love what we’ve done.
I would think that after making music for more than fifty years, my fans would understand that I’ll always do what’s in my heart – and I think that’s why you are my fans. So let’s just wait until the album comes out because I think you just might dig it as much as I do.
Love and Mercy, Brian

I like it.  

[Shady]

Not everyone is doing that, so there isn't as much of a "we", right?

It was a small minority, yes.

But hey, at least I can check "get told off by brian wilson" off my bucket list.

[Awesoman]

There may be some auto-tune in use on Al's vocals, but it's nowhere near as bad as anyone is claiming. They used the same processing chain for the rest of the lead vocals in the suite.

Indeed ? First you tell us most emphatically there's no autotune on the track at all, now there "may" be some. A little consistency, please.

And I never claimed it was bad (the contrary actually), just that it was unsubtle enough for me to catch it.

Here's what I've said:

"The auto-tune on TWGMTR (exempting the IIT single remix) is actually done very subtly. There's one particular moment in TLOS where the auto-tune jumps out far worse than anything on TWGMTR."

"Al's performance is pretty tight on this, and there is probably a bit of auto-tune, but it's not what everyone is making it out to be."

"Not that auto-tune itself has no artifacts but that the most common artifacts aren't all over From There To Back Again."

"There may be some auto-tune in use on Al's vocals, but it's nowhere near as bad as anyone is claiming. They used the same processing chain for the rest of the lead vocals in the suite."

Which part of that is inconsistent? I've said all along there's auto-tune on the record but I've also stated that what most people believe they hear as auto-tune is actually as a result of different types of vocal processing, most of which doesn't have the negative connotation that the term "auto-tune" does.

There is most definitely a liberal use of that pitch correction effect going on throughout the reunion album.  Same with their live album.  But if you *really* want to talk about horrible use of pitch correction, look (or hear) no further than Paul McCartney's live album, Good Evening New York City.  Holy crap do they take it to another level...

[Awesoman]

I LOVE BRIAN WILSON!!!

Just for being Brian Wilson!

Good on him!  a shame he still has to fight for his artistic freedom as he says, after 50 years!!!

Stupid People..... and we are the smartest species???..... 

RickB

Except it probably wasn't even Brian that wrote it. 

By the way, has anyone actually told Brian he's working on a new album??? 

[runnersdialzero]

I really doubt Brian said/wrote most, if any of that. Why do they continue to do this sort of stuff?

[bringahorseinhere?]

well cause maybe 'others' have Brian's interest at heart....

perhaps he didn't write it, but being Brian, who knows.....

but it sound like someone is 'pissed' just the same,

RickB

[guitarfool2002]

By the way, has anyone actually told Brian he's working on a new album??? 

Save your money, man.

[Dudd]

Why do they continue to do this sort of stuff?

Well, as silly as that "love & mercy" signoff is, it might as well be Brian. I think it'd be dumb to start speculating this is an attempt by the 'handlers' to prevent negative publicity, especially considering we haven't heard a thing yet. Either way, as stated above, someone's pissed.

[KittyKat]

Who gets the feeling that the person who wrote that post was also aiming it at this board

... Just a thought

I think people declaring music they haven't even heard one second of a "failure", a "disaster", or any of the other negatives is considered 100% bullshit far beyond this board and Facebook.  

...and the same thing goes for movies.

It's a strange contradiction. We love this guy's music because he dared to get out of the box. But, then we want to keep him stuck in the box he made in 1966.

That's a valid point, yes. The fact that no one has heard it yet somehow folks here and on Facebook already know what it sounds like enough to form a negative opinion is infuriating enough for an outside observer. How about the guy actually making the music who is reading this stuff?

Poor Brian, having to read criticism of decisions he din't even make. Did you ever think it might be a good thing that people realize that Brian did not pick up the phone to call Lana Del Rey to be on his album, and maybe he's not that crazy about the idea, either, and the people criticizing or being skeptical are actually in Brian's corner? Brian isn't stupid and perhaps his saying he's not quite sure who Lana is is his way of saying, in a passive aggressive way, help, get me out of here, folks. Brian also told the Irish Times he's sick of collaborators. Maybe he's not happy with the way things are going, either.  Some fans would rather defend Brian than Joe Thomas or his management. Let Joe and Melinda see what they're writing on Facebook and maybe they will change what's on the album and make it more Brian-centric in the end.

BTW, I don't believe Brian wrote that paragraph on Facebook. I'm thinking Michael DeMartin or his wife. Either that, or they "gently urged" him to put a stop to the negative talk and guided him in what to say. It flies in the face of what he told the Irish Times, and that was an objective outsider who got the words directly from Brian.

[Mikie]

I don't think it's Brian that wrote that. He wouldn't say "f*** with the formula". Even Mike has said he never said "f*** with the formula".

[alf wiedersehen]

I don't think it's Brian that wrote that. He wouldn't say "f*** with the formula". Even Mike has said he never said "f*** with the formula".

I thought that same thing. That small bit makes me suspicious.