It's been almost 27 years....

[Sheriff John Stone]

Did David Marks' individual eligibility begin with his David Marks & The Marksmen recordings?

Sheriff, are you goofin' on me? David Marks as a solo artist ? David should be inducted as a Beach Boy.

Absolutely. I was just thinking out loud as to technically or "HOF legally" when David would've been eligible as a solo artist.

[Awesoman]

It's the concerts that get you inducted. I finally get it.  Nilsson, Brian, The Monkees, Jan & Dean... these cats are known primarily for making quality records, not putting on inspiring live performances. (Yes I know Nilsson is the only studio-only guy that I listed there and the others gave concerts, but you know what I'm tryin' to say...)

But then how did Harrison get in?

What about John Lennon as a solo artist...  what'd he play maybe two concerts?

MEh, suppose it might be on account of 'em both being dead.

It's not primarily the concerts that get you inducted. 

[Emdeeh]

So you would deny Paul Simon, Peter Gabriel, Michael Jackson, Eric Clapton, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, and George Harrison the recognition they deserve for having success outside of their respective bands?

Not deny, just delay, until the backlog of uninducted worthies has been inducted.

[leggo of my ego]

Jann Wenner is a dork.

I dont know what he has to do with it - but it aint right to keep J&D out this long. Just aint right.

R&RHOF gets Zero respect from me until they are inducted. 

[Awesoman]

Jann Wenner is a dork.

I dont know what he has to do with it - but it aint right to keep J&D out this long.

Wenner is the co-founder of the Hall of Fame.  I think he has a lot to do with why some musicians (like Chicago) have been excluded from the HOF.

[Magic Transistor Radio]

I thought about this too which is what prompted me to review his solo albums. I think the Pet Sounds and Smile tours along with the greatness of TLOS and RIG, the fact that he overcame past fears to and issues to his longest time to consistently tour. Not to mention writing and producing (with help from Joe Thomas) another top 5 hit single for the Beach Boys,  I feel are warranted for Brian Wilson to go into the hall of fame on his own.

[Micha]

"RIG"? Do you mean "BWRG"?

[Alex]

Jann Wenner is a dork.

I dont know what he has to do with it - but it aint right to keep J&D out this long.

Wenner is the co-founder of the Hall of Fame.  I think he has a lot to do with why some musicians (like Chicago) have been excluded from the HOF.

Does Wenner have permanent veto power for the HOF?

[Andrew G. Doe]

I thought about this too which is what prompted me to review his solo albums. I think the Pet Sounds and Smile tours along with the greatness of TLOS and RIG, the fact that he overcame past fears to and issues to his longest time to consistently tour. Not to mention writing and producing (with help from Joe Thomas) another top 5 hit single for the Beach Boys,  I feel are warranted for Brian Wilson to go into the hall of fame on his own.

And that would be... which song ?

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I think he meant album

[Awesoman]

I thought about this too which is what prompted me to review his solo albums. I think the Pet Sounds and Smile tours along with the greatness of TLOS and RIG, the fact that he overcame past fears to and issues to his longest time to consistently tour. Not to mention writing and producing (with help from Joe Thomas) another top 5 hit single for the Beach Boys,  I feel are warranted for Brian Wilson to go into the hall of fame on his own.

All points duly noted, but ultimately his solo career has barely had the success he enjoyed with the Beach Boys.  The only real standout on his own was his finally releasing a re-recording of SMiLE, an album he originally conceived when he was in his prime.  Is it really even fair to credit this as part of his solo career when the genesis of this album was meant to be for the Beach Boys?  All the other albums he put out sold modestly at best.  As much as I dig BW, if we were to judge him based solely on his solo output, I don't think there is enough there to really warrant him his own spot in the RRHoF. 

[Andrew G. Doe]

I think he meant album

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... my bad, my utter, complete and miserable bad. I am a wretched excuse for a human being, and in the future will understand that when someone says "single", they actually mean "album".

This English language, it is so difficult to use properly, isn't it ? Next thing you know, you'll be telling me that calling someone a f*ckwit isn't a compliment.  So much to learn...

[Magic Transistor Radio]

I think he meant album

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... my bad, my utter, complete and miserable bad. I am a wretched excuse for a human being, and in the future will understand that when someone says "single", they actually mean "album".

This English language, it is so difficult to use properly, isn't it ? Next thing you know, you'll be telling me that calling someone a f*ckwit isn't a compliment.  So much to learn...

I did that at the top of my head. I guess it's the album that hit #3, not the single.

[Micha]

I think he meant album

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... my bad, my utter, complete and miserable bad. I am a wretched excuse for a human being, and in the future will understand that when someone says "single", they actually mean "album".

This English language, it is so difficult to use properly, isn't it ? Next thing you know, you'll be telling me that calling someone a f*ckwit isn't a compliment.  So much to learn...

Human beings nake errors, in any language.

For instance, I just mistyped "nake" instead of "make", and now decided to leave it like that for demonstration. Magic T. Radio either used the wrong word or mistakenly thought of the wrong thing. So what?

[Pretty Funky]

I think he meant album

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... my bad, my utter, complete and miserable bad. I am a wretched excuse for a human being, and in the future will understand that when someone says "single", they actually mean "album".

This English language, it is so difficult to use properly, isn't it ? Next thing you know, you'll be telling me that calling someone a f*ckwit isn't a compliment.  So much to learn...

In my book one definition of  f*ckwit is someone who makes something out of nothing.

[bluesno1fann]

Twelve (soon to be thirteen) solo* albums in a 26-year solo career isn't prolific ? 

[* if you include Orange Crate Art]

I meant to the mainstream Public. It is still not nearly as famous or prolific as say, 3 of the Beatles solo careers.

And count me as one of the guys who agree that Jan and Dean should get in now!

Dave Marks and Bruce Johnston have been snubbed in their roles as Beach Boys. Bruce has been a Beach Boy longer than say Ron Wood has been a Stone. How many great albums have the Stones made with Ronnie Wood on board? One. (Some Girls)

Agreed with the first part. Still cannot believe they (and Blondie + Ricky) did not get in while all the Rolling Stones (Including Ian Stewart!) got inducted. They could have at least added Bruce, as he was part of what made up their classic line-up that made their best work.

And as for the Stones comment, I slightly disagree. I think the Stones made two great albums since Ronnie Wood joined, Some Girls and Tattoo You!

[Lonely Summer]

Twelve (soon to be thirteen) solo* albums in a 26-year solo career isn't prolific ? 

[* if you include Orange Crate Art]

I meant to the mainstream Public. It is still not nearly as famous or prolific as say, 3 of the Beatles solo careers.

I would say 4 of the Beatles solo careers - Pete Best never did have any hit records on his own. Ringo, on the other hand, had a string of top ten singles (yes, singles) in the 70's (does anyone remember It Don't Come Easy, Back Off Boogaloo, Photograph, You're Sixteen, Oh My My, Only You, No No Song)  a couple of strong selling albums  (Ringo and Goodnight Vienna), several film roles, and if we're including endless touring on the oldies circuit for the past 25 years, well, Ringo's done that too.

[RangeRoverA1]

I would say 4 of the Beatles solo careers - Pete Best never did have any hit records on his own.

Wasn't his band's album "Haymans Green" nominated for Grammy? I recall there was a lot of fuss in 2010 or 11 when the news came out.

[bluesno1fann]

Twelve (soon to be thirteen) solo* albums in a 26-year solo career isn't prolific ? 

[* if you include Orange Crate Art]

I meant to the mainstream Public. It is still not nearly as famous or prolific as say, 3 of the Beatles solo careers.

I would say 4 of the Beatles solo careers - Pete Best never did have any hit records on his own. Ringo, on the other hand, had a string of top ten singles (yes, singles) in the 70's (does anyone remember It Don't Come Easy, Back Off Boogaloo, Photograph, You're Sixteen, Oh My My, Only You, No No Song)  a couple of strong selling albums  (Ringo and Goodnight Vienna), several film roles, and if we're including endless touring on the oldies circuit for the past 25 years, well, Ringo's done that too.

When I said 3 of the Beatles solo careers, I meant John, Paul and George. As far as I know, Ringo only really had a few hit singles and one hit album (the self-titled one). I discount film roles as it's not exactly in the same category as his solo music career.

[Niko]

Twelve (soon to be thirteen) solo* albums in a 26-year solo career isn't prolific ? 

[* if you include Orange Crate Art]

I meant to the mainstream Public. It is still not nearly as famous or prolific as say, 3 of the Beatles solo careers.

I would say 4 of the Beatles solo careers - Pete Best never did have any hit records on his own. Ringo, on the other hand, had a string of top ten singles (yes, singles) in the 70's (does anyone remember It Don't Come Easy, Back Off Boogaloo, Photograph, You're Sixteen, Oh My My, Only You, No No Song)  a couple of strong selling albums  (Ringo and Goodnight Vienna), several film roles, and if we're including endless touring on the oldies circuit for the past 25 years, well, Ringo's done that too.

When I said 3 of the Beatles solo careers, I meant John, Paul and George. As far as I know, Ringo only really had a few hit singles and one hit album (the self-titled one). I discount film roles as it's not exactly in the same category as his solo music career.

It was just explained that that's not the case though
 
Ringo did pretty well for himself

[Jonathan Blum]

When I said 3 of the Beatles solo careers, I meant John, Paul and George. As far as I know, Ringo only really had a few hit singles and one hit album (the self-titled one).

The "Goodnight Vienna" LP also went Top 10 (in the US), and he had eight Top 10 singles (and three others that made the Top 40).  That's a pretty respectable Greatest Hits in its own right.  (By comparison, George had five Top 10 singles, and nine others in the Top 40.)

I wish Brian had that kind of negligible solo success!

Cheers,
Jon Blum

[bluesno1fann]

When I said 3 of the Beatles solo careers, I meant John, Paul and George. As far as I know, Ringo only really had a few hit singles and one hit album (the self-titled one).

The "Goodnight Vienna" LP also went Top 10 (in the US), and he had eight Top 10 singles (and three others that made the Top 40).  That's a pretty respectable Greatest Hits in its own right.  (By comparison, George had five Top 10 singles, and nine others in the Top 40.)

I wish Brian had that kind of negligible solo success!

Cheers,
Jon Blum

True, but George also made All Things Must Pass (and to a lesser extent, Living In A Material World) which is generally considered to be one of the greatest solo Beatles albums, not to mention his work with the Traveling Wilburys.

[Nicko1234]

Realistically Brian`s solo career is nothing like strong enough for him to be considered for something like this imo.

His 10 solo albums thus far (studio albums obviously) have included of 3 covers albums of other people`s work, 2 covers albums of his own work and 1 album where he was guest singing someone else`s songs. So what are you left with...

BW88 - Pretty well liked
Imagination - A mixed reception and again filled in with covers
GIOMH - Crap and with songs of various vintages
That Lucky Old Sun - Highly thought of

Now considering what Brian has been through in his life, that is nothing to be sniffed at. But it doesn`t compare with hundreds of other artistes who would be more deserving of being inducted.

[Malc]

Two bands that really, really should be in there:

Cowsills

Carpenters.

Bread 

[MarcellaHasDirtyFeet]

Realistically Brian`s solo career is nothing like strong enough for him to be considered for something like this imo.

His 10 solo albums thus far (studio albums obviously) have included of 3 covers albums of other people`s work, 2 covers albums of his own work and 1 album where he was guest singing someone else`s songs. So what are you left with...

BW88 - Pretty well liked
Imagination - A mixed reception and again filled in with covers
GIOMH - Crap and with songs of various vintages
That Lucky Old Sun - Highly thought of

Now considering what Brian has been through in his life, that is nothing to be sniffed at. But it doesn`t compare with hundreds of other artistes who would be more deserving of being inducted.

This is clear-eyed truth telling. Sorry Brian