Collector's Info Wanted: Dennis Wilson and Rumbo

[bgas]

 I've been able to view some variations/countries at the Starline site, but I'm curious if anyone here knows of more?      As in other countries or label variation(s)... 
 
Here are the ones I can see when I visit the site: 

 French-- with Picture Sleeve   ( Shown here:  http://www.beachboys45.nl/France-solo.htm )
 
 The Netherlands--   with  Yellow Title Sleeve   ( shown here: http://www.beachboys45.nl/Neth-solo.htm) 

UK--
 Stock- solid center
 Stock- solid center with Factory Sample sticker
 Promo -Green A-label with breakable center
 1974 acetate, shown as the Beach Boys     ( Those 4 Shown here:  http://www.beachboys45.nl/UK-SOLO-DW.htm  )
 
plus these two have evidently recently shown up: 
 Stock- with breakable center  ( hasn't made the site yet, so I haven't seen it)
 Stock - with BIG HOLE  ( not the clearest, but you get the picture ...) 
     
       

And  I got this scan of a New Zealand issue from someone there :   

       


So I figure at a minimum, that means a possible  Large Hole UK promo and maybe a New Zealand promo.

( It's been confirmed it wasn't manufactured in Australia)
 
 I was once "sold" a Portuguese copy, but when it arrived it was only a French one.( Goldmine ad, darn the luck)
But maybe there really is one from Portugal?  Spain?  Germany? South Africa?  Israel? India?
Somebody ( PLEASE) must have something  to add!! 

 
 
 

[Andrew G. Doe]

( It's been confirmed it wasn't manufactured in Australia)

Um... yeah. Because it says "Made in New Zealand" on the label.  

[kiwi surfer]

It's that "someone" from New Zealand here. There was no New Zealand promo or demo version. All the record company did was to take a regular stock copy and place a sticker or two on the label.

[bringahorseinhere?]

that first one with the big centre looks like it's been 'dinked' for jukeboxes....

RickB

[smile-holland]

An Irish pressing exists as well (also SS 2184). I have a picture of this on my PC at home. I'll look it up later today

[bgas]

( It's been confirmed it wasn't manufactured in Australia)

Um... yeah. Because it says "Made in New Zealand" on the label.  

Ahh, bad placement/phrasing on my part. What I meant to say is there isn't an Australian version, not that the New Zealand issue was made there.   

Clear? 

[Lemon]

An Irish pressing exists as well (also SS 2184). I have a picture of this on my PC at home. I'll look it up later today

http://www.45cat.com/record/ssi2184

[bgas]

An Irish pressing exists as well (also SS 2184). I have a picture of this on my PC at home. I'll look it up later today

http://www.45cat.com/record/ssi2184

Is that your personal copy?

[kiwi surfer]

that first one with the big centre looks like it's been 'dinked' for jukeboxes....

RickB

That's exactly what it is.

[Lemon]

An Irish pressing exists as well (also SS 2184). I have a picture of this on my PC at home. I'll look it up later today

http://www.45cat.com/record/ssi2184

Is that your personal copy?

No, I`m looking for this label variation long time.

This is my collection "Pacific Ocean Blue" around the world  -
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,8189.0.html
I will add some other editions soon.

[Rob Dean]

Anyone seen this on EBay , not long to go and at £ 117

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dennis-Wilson-and-Rumbo-Sound-Of-Free-1970-UK-45-DEMO-THE-BEACH-BOYS-/351015879780?pt=UK_Records&hash=item51ba2d4464

[bgas]

that first one with the big centre looks like it's been 'dinked' for jukeboxes....

RickB

That's exactly what it is.

What is dinked?   Is it a way of describing a knocked-out center?   
I've been assured that the one shown was made with a large hole, and not  from which a center has been removed. 

In addition, I've found Stateside label 45 releases( in general, not specifically for DWR) for the countries listed below. So I suppose there could be copies of DWR for any, unless known not to be issued. 
Can anyone rule out any of these?    ( Even that would help)   

Angola 
Australia ( no ) 
Barbados   
Belgium   
Denmark
Finland
France ( yes )
Germany
Ghana 
Greece   
Hong Kong
India
Ireland  ( yes )
Israel
Italy
Jamaica
Japan
Lebanon 
The Netherlands ( Holland )   ( yes ) 
New Zealand  ( yes )
Nigeria
Norway 
Portugal
Rhodesia   
South Africa   
Spain 
Sweden 
Turkey 
United Kingdom  ( yes )
Yugoslavia   

[smile-holland]

Ireland:




And thanks for that link, Lemon. Forgot to check it there.

[smile-holland]

I noticed that the releases of a few BB (related) singles followed quickly after another. Tears In The Morning, See The Light (Flame) and Sound Of Free (Dennis & Rumbo). So I made this table a while ago. Check the catalogue numbers. Especially the UK, but take for example also the German ones; as far as we know there no German Dennis & Rumbo release, but seeing the similarities with the Dutch and French releases it does make you wonder... Although chances are slim, it does give me a bit of hope that a few gaps in this table can be filled one day...

[bringahorseinhere?]

Smile Holland,

I can confirm an Australian pressing of 'tears in the morning/its about time..... however, mine is a promo with a large A on the 'tears' side....
being the 'plug' side....
its also on stateside...

RickB

[dogear]

Anyone seen this on EBay , not long to go and at £ 117

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dennis-Wilson-and-Rumbo-Sound-Of-Free-1970-UK-45-DEMO-THE-BEACH-BOYS-/351015879780?pt=UK_Records&hash=item51ba2d4464

It just went for 121

[bgas]

Anyone seen this on EBay , not long to go and at £ 117

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dennis-Wilson-and-Rumbo-Sound-Of-Free-1970-UK-45-DEMO-THE-BEACH-BOYS-/351015879780?pt=UK_Records&hash=item51ba2d4464

It just went for 121

To a buyer in New Zealand! 

[bringahorseinhere?]

that first one with the big centre looks like it's been 'dinked' for jukeboxes....

RickB

That's exactly what it is.

What is dinked?   Is it a way of describing a knocked-out center?   
I've been assured that the one shown was made with a large hole, and not  from which a center has been removed. 


yes, 'dinking' is the term used to remove the centre of the record.....for jukeboxes, its done with a specific tool for clean accuracy and cut...

just comparing this to the Great Britain 45, they appear identical to me, no other label changes.....

and on first visual, to me, straight away it looks 'dinked' to me...

it it's not a 'dinked' 45, then they had made no effort adjusting the writing credits to fit the large centre.....

and this was a release without the optional push out centre, so 'IMHO' lol, someone took to it and made their own...

love these topics!

RickB

[kiwi surfer]

I noticed that the releases of a few BB (related) singles followed quickly after another. Tears In The Morning, See The Light (Flame) and Sound Of Free (Dennis & Rumbo). So I made this table a while ago. Check the catalogue numbers. Especially the UK, but take for example also the German ones; as far as we know there no German Dennis & Rumbo release, but seeing the similarities with the Dutch and French releases it does make you wonder... Although chances are slim, it does give me a bit of hope that a few gaps in this table can be filled one day...

There was no New Zealand pressing of 'It's About Time" / "Tears In The Morning".

[smile-holland]

Smile Holland,

I can confirm an Australian pressing of 'tears in the morning/its about time..... however, mine is a promo with a large A on the 'tears' side....
being the 'plug' side....
its also on stateside...

RickB

Even if it's just a promo, at least we know there's an Aussie pressing. Cool! Do you have the catalogue number?

There was no New Zealand pressing of 'It's About Time" / "Tears In The Morning".

Thanks, will add it to the table. I was just notified that there is a NZ Flame single though. It's on cat45. I'll change the tabel asap.

[bringahorseinhere?]

Smile Holland,

The info on the Australian pressing 'tears in the morning/it's about time...

Label: Stateside
Catalogue number: 0SS - 9319
Runout groove number: 'tears' - 45-YKR8388, 'time' - 45-YKR8389

Pressed in Sydney, Australia.

If you would like to send a scan of both sides, let me know!

Cheers, RickB

[bgas]

Smile Holland,

The info on the Australian pressing 'tears in the morning/it's about time...

Label: Stateside
Catalogue number: 0SS - 9319
Runout groove number: 'tears' - 45-YKR8388, 'time' - 45-YKR8389

Pressed in Sydney, Australia.

If you would like to send a scan of both sides, let me know!

Cheers, RickB

 I think Smile-Holland was having a brain -fart!  This record is already shown on the website... 
But I think it would be really good for you to visit, on the chance that one or more of your records could be variations on what's shown. Or even better you may have something not shown at all!!!!   
The main Site:  http://www.beachboys45.nl/ 

ALL of Australia:  http://www.beachboys45.nl/Australia.htm 

Just don't let it distract you from finding some Rumbo Variations....

[bringahorseinhere?]

heya Bgas!

Yeppers! that's the one on the site!

I should have checked myself, darn I'm stupid...

i'll keep a look out for an aussie 'denny and rumbo',

its a high possibility they were pressed, when new Zealand had one done...

the search continues....

RickB