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Hello, me again. This morning I wrote and recorded a scratch/demo version of a new song, "No Substitute." Uptempo, poppy but in my mind (eventually, when I finish it) reminiscent instrumentally of VU. Vocal harmonies and such, obviously, because that's what I like.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/7lcmoa
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Wow, jolly good! Add some tremolo/staccato effects, bass & drums - and it's a hit-no-miss. No, really, play along with ideas, make it rock & roll (coz, well, it has rock potential) & upload the finished result. Also, I totally get you re VU, the guitar is so Reedish, albeit with a little Joni Mitchell thrown in (Big Yellow Taxi, anyone?). Major thanks for the link!
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: for the nth time, I'll make the "At My Window" reference by telling you the song has perfect duration - 2:32, like my all-time BBs fave or ever. So another plus point.
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Thanks, RangeRoverA1, I appreciate the nice words. And I agree about short tunes: as you may have noticed, my sweet spot is usually right in the 2:30 range ... maybe even shorter. I'm not one to beat a dead horse or ask too much of a listener.
What I'm imagining for eventual instrumentation is pounding drums (more toms than snares and cymbals), an agile bass line, two electric guitars, maybe slightly overdriven or maybe just LOUD, and an organ that sounds like it might bust any second. Then, atop that, the relatively sweet vocals that I theoretically will put down. Ideally they'd all be in tune when I get to that point, unlike the sloppy and out-of-tune sustained "nooooooo" of the "no substitute" part. And I'd try harder to cover my lisp.
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Wonderful harmonies! Top notch lyrics, vocals, chords - great tune!
Can't wait to hear the final version.
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Thanks rab2591, I appreciate that.
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Quote from: the captain on February 03, 2014, 04:31:45 PM
Thanks, RangeRoverA1, I appreciate the nice words. And I agree about short tunes: as you may have noticed, my sweet spot is usually right in the 2:30 range ... maybe even shorter. I'm not one to beat a dead horse or ask too much of a listener.
What I'm imagining for eventual instrumentation is pounding drums (more toms than snares and cymbals), an agile bass line, two electric guitars, maybe slightly overdriven or maybe just LOUD, and an organ that sounds like it might bust any second. Then, atop that, the relatively sweet vocals that I theoretically will put down. Ideally they'd all be in tune when I get to that point, unlike the sloppy and out-of-tune sustained "nooooooo" of the "no substitute" part. And I'd try harder to cover my lisp.
Amazing you just whipped that out this morning Luther! Awesome! Like it a lot!
The stuff I do comes forth at such a snail's pace.
Yes, can't wait to hear the finished version. Hearing this reminds me of Pete Townsend's Scooped demos. Simple joy.
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Quote from: the captain on February 03, 2014, 04:31:45 PM
And I'd try harder to cover my lisp.
Till reading this comment, I'd no idea you had a lisp. Randomly chose one of your songs for checking ("Curses & Blessings") & there is indeed something odd about phrasing words. However, I don't consider it an imperfection, it's kind of cool, in fact. And isn't it good to have your own schtick, some individuality? I think positive.
Wow, I forgot about an organ (solo), that is one groovy instrument which I think would fit the song nicely. Wonder if you ever did the instrumentals consisting of only keyboard playing, as I recall that's your go-to favorite type of instruments.
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Quote from: OregonRiverRider on February 10, 2014, 12:27:13 AM
Amazing you just whipped that out this morning Luther! Awesome! Like it a lot!
The stuff I do comes forth at such a snail's pace.
Yes, can't wait to hear the finished version. Hearing this reminds me of Pete Townsend's Scooped demos. Simple joy.
Thanks, OregonRiverRider. I think my songs come quickly because if they don't, they don't come at all. I have little discipline or patience, and nothing that requires me to. Since I haven't played out in years, there is nobody depending on me to generate new material. Since I don't try to make any kind of living (or even get any kind of popularity via social media or whatever), it just doesn't matter. So if I feel like it, great. If I get stuck or bored, oh well. Sometimes I come back to fragments or ideas that are 1, 5, 10, 15 years old. Sometimes I don't. But mostly in the past couple years, if I have it recorded, it's new and hasty. The downside is ideas aren't very carefully considered, arrangements are pretty much in-the-moment improvisations, engineering is sh*t, performances are flawed, and production/mixing is laughable. I always tell myself I'll go through the songs I like best and do them properly but I rarely do...
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Quote from: RangeRoverA1 on February 10, 2014, 05:31:25 AM
Quote from: the captain on February 03, 2014, 04:31:45 PM
And I'd try harder to cover my lisp.
Till reading this comment, I'd no idea you had a lisp. Randomly chose one of your songs for checking ("Curses & Blessings") & there is indeed something odd about phrasing words. However, I don't consider it an imperfection, it's kind of cool, in fact. And isn't it good to have your own schtick, some individuality? I think positive.[/i]
Yep, lisp. I don't worry much about it--after all Freddie Mercury had one*, and besides, I'm too old to give a f*** what anyone thinks. Besides, none of these songs matter, they are for my enjoyment and I guess that of whoever wants to bother. If anyone doesn't like it, there is a lot of great music in the world with which they can spend their time. I understand that.
*Freddie's lisp was different than mine, though. His made an "s" sound more like an "sch." Mine makes an "s" more of a "th." I can do away with it most of the time if I really focus on it, but some word combinations or phrases are just really difficult.
Quote from: RangeRoverA1 on February 10, 2014, 05:31:25 AM
Wow, I forgot about an organ (solo), that is one groovy instrument which I think would fit the song nicely. Wonder if you ever did the instrumentals consisting of only keyboard playing, as I recall that's your go-to favorite type of instruments.
I think the only song I've ever done that was keyboard-only was "I Didn't Think So," which was piano and voices. A few others are close, like "Cognitive Dissonance," "Ikaria," and "Arjuna." But no, I usually supplement keyboards because I'm not a very good player. So in order to have a full sound, generally some bass or guitar/banjo/uke is needed.
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New Recording: No Substitute
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I told you I could rock (in a power pop kind of way...). About 18 months after its scratch-demo debut, here's a more fully realized version of "No Substitute." Drums by Zach, I did the rest this morning and early afternoon. Nothing as intricate as I sometimes get into, just a couple guitars, a bass, drums, voices, and a bit of piano in one part. Oh, and an egg shaker. Obviously.
https://soundcloud.com/the-beau-mondes/no-substitute-1
Hope you enjoy the sound of Luther kind of trying to rock a little bit and stuff.
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While there is a slight chance the world isn't waiting and doesn't care, I replaced the recording with a new version that includes a synth and some slight remixing.
https://soundcloud.com/the-beau-mondes/no-substitute_1
Hope it's pleasant.
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Sounds nice. Like the rythmn and the melody
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Thanks, I appreciate that.
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Hours and hours of soul-wrenching inner struggle. Direct revelations from gods and ancestors. The hope of pissing off anyone wasting time questioning motivations for why to post in one years-old thread over another years-old thread. Those sorts of reasons.
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Yes, in looking up that other years-old post, I saw and understood what you meant. However, it's entirely irrelevant to this thread (and life in general), and I wonder why you'd bother asking--especially in that I've noted before I find you an annoying troll. The answer to the question is, "who knows?" I hadn't thought about it. It's not important. You've given it more thought than me (by digging up the old post and thread and asking). I have no good answer because it's just not a relevant question to my life.
How's that for the honest answer? I found sarcasm more enjoyable the first time because, well, just because. I'm not sure why. Ask me again in a few years if I contradict myself. Or better, just don't.
And now I'll consider this line of the discussion closed so people can discuss--or ignore, if that be their preference--the actual music found here, there, and elsewhere instead.
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Quote from: RangeRoverA1 on October 06, 2015, 07:42:51 AM
Ok but what exactly is annoying or troll-like in that post? It was simple question.
It was a simple question entirely unrelated to the purpose of this, or any other, thread. It's irrelevant to the point. I answered sarcastically. Then I answered clearly. I'm running out of answers. And what difference could it possibly make to you regardless of my answer? Please stop communicating with you. I've asked before. I'm asking again. I find you excruciatingly annoying. It doesn't matter why, frankly. I just do (much like it doesn't matter why I post in this or that thread). I can't stop you from posting in my threads or in response to my posts, obviously, but I really wish you would.
If anyone (else) wants to discuss the song in any way, I'm more than happy to do that. If not, I'm more than happy to let the thread die its natural death.
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I have a question, Cap.
What is it that you usually do with your music? Do you just work on a song, post it here, and move onto the next one?
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Yeah, that's more or less it. That and sharing with a handful of real-life friends. In my younger days I played out in bands, as well, but now I'm strictly a hobbyist.
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