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« on: January 20, 2014, 06:03:58 AM »

 go to wcco.com and click bill lee pod casts...interview with bill p. about the new movie half way through pod cast. poss. release date is told.  listen..listen ..listen
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2014, 05:16:49 PM »

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2014/01/20/bill-pohlad-on-producing-12-years-a-slave/
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2014, 05:39:03 PM »

Quickly transcribed (some words, sentences were left out, this is the gist of it though):

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[Asked about Love and Mercy]

Uh Love and Mercy is a film we developed...it's about the musician Brian Wilson who most people know from the Beach Boys....he's also struggled with a form of schizophrenia throughout his life and has had issues with drug abuse and rather unsavory characters that got into his life and messed it up a bit. It's a very powerful story and we wanted to tell that. Actually I'm directing the film so we developed and wrote the film with a great screenwriter Oren Moverman and we shot it this last summer in LA and I'm actually in New York now editing the film.

[decisions about the actors]

Normally I'm producing, so very involved in the casting decisions, generally the producer is kinda leading the way, and it's the directors job to execute the creative vision. In this case I'm both the director and producer. As the director I'm basically in charge of everything.

[when will the film come out]

We'll see. It'll be ready in the spring. But then distributors take a look at the film and decide what kind of a film it is and whose going to be attracted to it, then the decision is made. But it would be my guess it would be late summer, early fall.

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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2014, 05:52:39 PM »

So, it has no distributor at this point. I wonder how widely it will be released? It's hard to get films distributed these days because independent films are being pushed out of the multiplexes by the so-called tentpole blockbuster type movies. Though that would make it more realistic to expect it to be released in the fall, when most of those movies have mostly cleared out of theaters.
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2014, 05:54:07 PM »

Quickly transcribed (some words, sentences were left out, this is the gist of it though):

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[Asked about Love and Mercy]

Uh Love and Mercy is a film we developed...it's about the musician Brian Wilson who most people know from the Beach Boys....he's also struggled with a form of schizophrenia throughout his life and has had issues with drug abuse and rather unsavory characters that got into his life and messed it up a bit. It's a very powerful story and we wanted to tell that. Actually I'm directing the film so we developed and wrote the film with a great screenwriter Oren Moverman and we shot it this last summer in LA and I'm actually in New York now editing the film.

[decisions about the actors]

Normally I'm producing, so very involved in the casting decisions, generally the producer kinda leading the way, and it's the directors job to execute the creative vision. In this case I'm north the director and producer. As the director I'm basically in charge of everything.

[when will the film come out]

We'll see. It'll be ready in the spring. But then distributors take a look at the film and decide what kind of a film it is and whose going to be attracted to it, then the decision is made. But it would be my guess it would be late summer, early fall.


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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2014, 07:40:27 PM »

Brian Wilson is not schizophrenic.
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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2014, 08:58:14 PM »

Thank's for sharing, the end of summer will be here as soon as we know it!
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2014, 01:48:29 AM »

Brian Wilson is not schizophrenic.

He's not? I'm pretty sure he is. What makes you think he's not? I'd like to discuss, this is not meant as a provocation.
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2014, 10:23:11 AM »

It's been discussed at length on this board, he suffers from clinical depression.  Along the way, he was treated with schizophrenia class medications by hack Dr. Landy and others, which caused brain damage.  A combination of clinical depression and street drugs, will lead to an endless cycle of dysfunctional behavior.  Depressed people withdraw from life, such as when Brian withdrew to his bedroom for a period of time. 
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2014, 11:10:44 AM »

I believe we've been told his diagnosis, haven't we?  But I can't remember.  Schizo affective?  Bipolar?  Cyclothymic? 
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2014, 12:38:31 PM »

Brian Wilson is not schizophrenic.

I'm not an expert on these things, but I believe if a person hears audible voices in their head, then there is a "schizo" element to their mental illness.
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2014, 12:44:09 PM »

Brian Wilson is not schizophrenic.

I'm not an expert on these things, but I believe if a person hears audible voices in their head, then there is a "schizo" element to their mental illness.

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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2014, 05:03:08 PM »

It will be a miracle if this movie get's a wide release
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2014, 01:33:17 AM »

Brian Wilson is not schizophrenic.

I'm not an expert on these things, but I believe if a person hears audible voices in their head, then there is a "schizo" element to their mental illness.

Paranoia also fits into the picture. Landy's drugs very obviously did brain damage to Brian, but that doesn't mean Brian's brain disease is absolutely non-schizophrenic.
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2014, 10:04:50 AM »

I thought they were calling it schizo affective, which has symptoms of schizophrenia but isn't the full disease.  Hearing voices isn't ordinarily a symptom of depression and Brian says in interviews that he hallucinates voices.
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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2014, 10:28:02 AM »

Brian Wilson is not schizophrenic.

I'm not an expert on these things, but I believe if a person hears audible voices in their head, then there is a "schizo" element to their mental illness.

Yes.

I'm in a band with two people that suffer from this, and I can certainly back up what was said here. The interesting thing was I was telling them about Brian's illness before I knew about theirs.
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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2014, 11:03:55 AM »

Landy's drugs very obviously did brain damage to Brian...

I'm not being a jerk, I'm not being disagreeable, and I'm not singling you out, but...

Do you or any other posters know what drugs Landy gave to Brian in the 1980's that caused permanent damage or had side effects that still affect him today, 25 years later. I'm asking to obtain knowledge, to learn more about the Landy period, not to be argumentative.
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2014, 11:12:48 AM »

Regarding auditory hallucinations and diagnoses: You can have hallucinations, including auditory, without having schizophrenia or schizo-affective disorder. It can occur in depression and bipolar disorder, for example.
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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2014, 12:02:46 PM »

It's interesting that there are TV ads for a medication called Abilify that treat it like it's some kind of lightweight medication for depressed people to add to their Prozac if Prozac isn't enough. I see the Abilify commercial all the time on network TV. Out of curiousity, I looked up what it does, exactly. It's an anti-psychotic medication that's given to schizophrenics as well as depressed and bi-polar patients. I find it weird that a powerful anti-psychotic drug is advertised on primetime network TV with a cute-sy animated commercial, but I guess those problems are more mainstream and widespread than you'd think.
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2014, 12:03:02 PM »

I don't know what speciifc drugs Landy prescribed, but based on what I have read, it's my understanding that Dr. Landy had medication that is used to treat schizophrenia prescribed for BW.  Landy couldn't have  written prescriptions as psychologist, so he had to have someone who was an m.d. write the scrips.  I've also read that Landy would get different doctors to prescribe meds, so that no one had a handle on all the meds BW was taking and all the side effects and toxicities, etc.  A real medical mess.
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2014, 12:07:21 PM »

Landy's drugs very obviously did brain damage to Brian...

I'm not being a jerk, I'm not being disagreeable, and I'm not singling you out, but...

Do you or any other posters know what drugs Landy gave to Brian in the 1980's that caused permanent damage or had side effects that still affect him today, 25 years later. I'm asking to obtain knowledge, to learn more about the Landy period, not to be argumentative.

I remember reading in Tim White's book that he was on a lot of different drugs, over ten at one time, but I don't remember if it listed which ones. It did mention that he took an anti-Parkinson drug to stop involuntary tremors caused by one of the anti-psychotic drugs.
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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2014, 08:23:04 PM »

It's interesting that there are TV ads for a medication called Abilify that treat it like it's some kind of lightweight medication for depressed people to add to their Prozac if Prozac isn't enough. I see the Abilify commercial all the time on network TV. Out of curiousity, I looked up what it does, exactly. It's an anti-psychotic medication that's given to schizophrenics as well as depressed and bi-polar patients. I find it weird that a powerful anti-psychotic drug is advertised on primetime network TV with a cute-sy animated commercial, but I guess those problems are more mainstream and widespread than you'd think.

These disorders are not as widespread and mainstream as the advertising suggests, but it is a sign of the Big Business of pharmocrats: eighty-percent of the population is currently taking some kind of anti-depressant, according to the latest figures. There's a concept called FALSE POSITIVE. If you exhibit enough symptoms, you qualify for the diagnosis which gets you the prescription. You may not have a real problem, but you qualify for the drug.

Fact: no condition is listed in the DSM (the guidebook for diagnosis) without a sponsor.
Fact: no drug is considered for market by the FDA unless it is linked to a specific condition listed in the DSM.

Small investment when you have a potential to make billions of dollars, and the latest version of the DSM expands the number of diagnosis so that nearly everybody in the population can get themselves a prescription for one drug or another or both!

Most people won't think to ask their doctor about "Abilify" or any of the other drugs unless the advertisements tell them that there are drugs for certain kinds of symptoms. But are those symptoms really a medical condition, or are they something else? Like, a spiritual dilemma or a philosophical problem? Disease is socially defined, part of our consensus reality, and there are many professional cliques that earn billions of dollars by drugging the population unnecessarily. Cute ads make it "safe" and normalize it for consumption. It's a twisted business.

Anyway, I always thought it was interesting how Brian wanted to be a psychologist, before he became successful as a musician.
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2014, 08:55:04 PM »

Yep, I agree with the above, and wish they had never made prescription drug advertising "legal" on American TV. It's also a bummer that such a large number of ads on American TV are for some malady or another.

BTW, the schizo-affective diagnosis for Brian is something that has been put across by Brian and his people for the past few years. It comes up in Google search and it appears in a number of article results from major publications. He also is said to be bipolar along with schizoaffective, not just depressive. It's very honest of them, when he really doesn't have to reveal that much. It will be interesting to see how they put it in the film, because the film director himself is saying it's a form of schizophrenia and I'm not sure it is.
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« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2014, 02:47:59 AM »

Landy's drugs very obviously did brain damage to Brian...

I'm not being a jerk, I'm not being disagreeable, and I'm not singling you out, but...

No worries, everybody's discussing in a gentle manner here so far, including you, and I don't feel singled out... Smiley I don't have knowledge of the medicaments. Recently I read about schizophrenia and it mentioned auditory hallucinations and paranoia, which naturally made me think of Brian and his behaviour during SMiLE, when he was seriously thinking there are mind gangsters and the occasional witch who were after him.


Regarding auditory hallucinations and diagnoses: You can have hallucinations, including auditory, without having schizophrenia or schizo-affective disorder. It can occur in depression and bipolar disorder, for example.

Have you deeper knowledge about this that you might want to elaborate? I'm not a psychiatrist, so I can't really add more to this discussion than what I wrote above.
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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2014, 05:31:35 AM »

Yes, I'm a psychologist. I'm doing most of my posting here on my phone so that's why my last post was a bit short. Using the phone now as well but hopefully I can make some time to elaborate later.
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