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« Reply #50 on: January 08, 2014, 11:46:50 PM »

It's sad what has happened to mainstream music. However, I have hopes that things might change.

Yea we've had almost a full decade of mediocre crap.   in 2007 mainstream rap music turned to garbage thanks to people like Soulja Boy  Angry.  I know there was crappy music in every decade, but the good music always overshadowed the bad.  Most of the artists in my generation won't even last 5 years from now.  One thing I hate is how a song could come out today, and then in two weeks it's considered "old"  Huh what? 
True. The Jonas Brothers, which was huge a few years ago, are literally history now. The overrated Psy proved to be a one-hit wonder, all the artists from the much-derided ARK Music Factory have suffered great ridicule and slid into obscurity. Kesha has also slid into obscurity.

Justin Bieber and One Direction should go next I hope. Them and Kanye West, Nicki Minaj, and all the other jokes who are ruining music as we know it

Justin said about a week ago that he was "retiring"  it's about time  Roll Eyes when I first saw him I thought he was one of those Kidz Bop kids
I hope he really is!
If he doesn't, I'll be pissed off  Grin

Some dude on the news said it was a gimmick because his new movie didn't do well at the box office....and I don't know what he and Miley Cyrus are trying to do they're both getting on my nerves with this "gangsta badass" stuff
They were both incredibly annoying even before they became like that, especially Bieber.
I wish they'd just disappear!

Yes I agree. I never liked Hannah Montana to begin with but now.... I never thought I would say it but I actually miss her as Hannah Montana  Shocked and speaking of that not only has the music gone downhill but t.v. shows have too
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« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2014, 11:52:36 PM »

Sorry guys, Ye has legit musical talent apart from his grandiose personality, which I think is more funny than off-putting anyway. I understand that virtually nobody here likes hip-hop but Kanye is still a major force in that genre even if he is also a pop star as well where his appeal may be more divisive and perhaps limited. Kanye isn't anything close to an amazing rapper but he's an excellent producer and beat-maker and that's where I suspect his legacy will rest, even before he had a solo career. There's so much good hip-hop happening these days and I honestly think that is one genre where the mainstream performers are often just as listenable if not fully as good as those in the underground.
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« Reply #52 on: January 09, 2014, 12:00:58 AM »

Sorry guys, Ye has legit musical talent apart from his grandiose personality, which I think is more funny than off-putting anyway. I understand that virtually nobody here likes hip-hop but Kanye is still a major force in that genre even if he is also a pop star as well where his appeal may be more divisive and perhaps limited. Kanye isn't anything close to an amazing rapper but he's an excellent producer and beat-maker and that's where I suspect his legacy will rest, even before he had a solo career. There's so much good hip-hop happening these days and I honestly think that is one genre where the mainstream performers are often just as listenable if not fully as good as those in the underground.
He's also the biggest egotistical douchebag in the music industry. He makes Mike Love look like a saint!

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« Reply #53 on: January 09, 2014, 12:07:21 AM »

It's sad what has happened to mainstream music. However, I have hopes that things might change.

Yea we've had almost a full decade of mediocre crap.   in 2007 mainstream rap music turned to garbage thanks to people like Soulja Boy  Angry.  I know there was crappy music in every decade, but the good music always overshadowed the bad.  Most of the artists in my generation won't even last 5 years from now.  One thing I hate is how a song could come out today, and then in two weeks it's considered "old"  Huh what? 
True. The Jonas Brothers, which was huge a few years ago, are literally history now. The overrated Psy proved to be a one-hit wonder, all the artists from the much-derided ARK Music Factory have suffered great ridicule and slid into obscurity. Kesha has also slid into obscurity.

Justin Bieber and One Direction should go next I hope. Them and Kanye West, Nicki Minaj, and all the other jokes who are ruining music as we know it

Justin said about a week ago that he was "retiring"  it's about time  Roll Eyes when I first saw him I thought he was one of those Kidz Bop kids
I hope he really is!
If he doesn't, I'll be pissed off  Grin

Some dude on the news said it was a gimmick because his new movie didn't do well at the box office....and I don't know what he and Miley Cyrus are trying to do they're both getting on my nerves with this "gangsta badass" stuff
They were both incredibly annoying even before they became like that, especially Bieber.
I wish they'd just disappear!

Yes I agree. I never liked Hannah Montana to begin with but now.... I never thought I would say it but I actually miss her as Hannah Montana  Shocked and speaking of that not only has the music gone downhill but t.v. shows have too
I guess I sort-of have to agree with you. All the great shows have either been cancelled too soon (Futurama for example), has ran it's course (The Simpsons, Family Guy, Two And A Half Men for example), or has retired.
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« Reply #54 on: January 09, 2014, 12:13:31 AM »

I'm tired of all these reality t.v. shows and I like shows that have real live studio audiences instead of laugh tracks, excluding those classic shows such as Andy Griffith or Bewitched etc.
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« Reply #55 on: January 09, 2014, 12:17:59 AM »

I'm tired of all these reality t.v. shows and I like shows that have real live studio audiences instead of laugh tracks, excluding those classic shows such as Andy Griffith or Bewitched etc.
Yeah, reality shows sucks!
That's the main reason why MTV degenerated from a cool Music Channel and the place where you can watch Beavis and Butthead to a reality channel which is a shadow of it's former self
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« Reply #56 on: January 09, 2014, 12:20:31 AM »

Sorry guys, Ye has legit musical talent apart from his grandiose personality, which I think is more funny than off-putting anyway. I understand that virtually nobody here likes hip-hop but Kanye is still a major force in that genre even if he is also a pop star as well where his appeal may be more divisive and perhaps limited. Kanye isn't anything close to an amazing rapper but he's an excellent producer and beat-maker and that's where I suspect his legacy will rest, even before he had a solo career. There's so much good hip-hop happening these days and I honestly think that is one genre where the mainstream performers are often just as listenable if not fully as good as those in the underground.
He's also the biggest egotistical douchebag in the music industry. He makes Mike Love look like a saint!



I know when his mom died he took it really hard  Sad.  That whole thing with him and Taylor Swift at the awards show might've had something to do with that, maybe.  But I have to admit even though he was wrong for ruining her moment, Beyoncé should've gotten that award  LOL
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« Reply #57 on: January 09, 2014, 12:23:38 AM »

I'm tired of all these reality t.v. shows and I like shows that have real live studio audiences instead of laugh tracks, excluding those classic shows such as Andy Griffith or Bewitched etc.
Yeah, reality shows sucks!
That's the main reason why MTV degenerated from a cool Music Channel and the place where you can watch Beavis and Butthead to a reality channel which is a shadow of it's former self

exactly! and the joke is reality shows aren't fully reality.  a couple of my friends talk about how great an episode of Bad Girls Club is and I'm sitting there going  Wall
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« Reply #58 on: January 09, 2014, 12:24:09 AM »

Sorry guys, Ye has legit musical talent apart from his grandiose personality, which I think is more funny than off-putting anyway. I understand that virtually nobody here likes hip-hop but Kanye is still a major force in that genre even if he is also a pop star as well where his appeal may be more divisive and perhaps limited. Kanye isn't anything close to an amazing rapper but he's an excellent producer and beat-maker and that's where I suspect his legacy will rest, even before he had a solo career. There's so much good hip-hop happening these days and I honestly think that is one genre where the mainstream performers are often just as listenable if not fully as good as those in the underground.
He's also the biggest egotistical douchebag in the music industry. He makes Mike Love look like a saint!



I know when his mom died he took it really hard  Sad.  That whole thing with him and Taylor Swift at the awards show might've had something to do with that, maybe.  But I have to admit even though he was wrong for ruining her moment, Beyoncé should've gotten that award  LOL
I don't think it's just that whole thing with Taylor Swift. I've always found him to be a egotistical douchebag anyway.
And I realize that I keep repeating "egotistical douchebag" but that's the perfect way to describe him  LOL
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« Reply #59 on: January 09, 2014, 12:28:20 AM »

I'm tired of all these reality t.v. shows and I like shows that have real live studio audiences instead of laugh tracks, excluding those classic shows such as Andy Griffith or Bewitched etc.
Yeah, reality shows sucks!
That's the main reason why MTV degenerated from a cool Music Channel and the place where you can watch Beavis and Butthead to a reality channel which is a shadow of it's former self

exactly! and the joke is reality shows aren't fully reality.  a couple of my friends talk about how great an episode of Bad Girls Club is and I'm sitting there going  Wall
Yeah, a lot of "reality" shows are scripted and fake.
I don't mind Pawn Stars and American Restoration, but other than them, I can't really stand any reality shows
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« Reply #60 on: January 09, 2014, 12:40:02 AM »

Sorry guys, Ye has legit musical talent apart from his grandiose personality, which I think is more funny than off-putting anyway. I understand that virtually nobody here likes hip-hop but Kanye is still a major force in that genre even if he is also a pop star as well where his appeal may be more divisive and perhaps limited. Kanye isn't anything close to an amazing rapper but he's an excellent producer and beat-maker and that's where I suspect his legacy will rest, even before he had a solo career. There's so much good hip-hop happening these days and I honestly think that is one genre where the mainstream performers are often just as listenable if not fully as good as those in the underground.
He's also the biggest egotistical douchebag in the music industry. He makes Mike Love look like a saint!



I know when his mom died he took it really hard  Sad.  That whole thing with him and Taylor Swift at the awards show might've had something to do with that, maybe.  But I have to admit even though he was wrong for ruining her moment, Beyoncé should've gotten that award  LOL
I don't think it's just that whole thing with Taylor Swift. I've always found him to be a egotistical douchebag anyway.
And I realize that I keep repeating "egotistical douchebag" but that's the perfect way to describe him  LOL

Lil Wayne's another one.  I can't see how people consider him to be the greatest rapper alive  Huh and he's always degrading women, but then again a lot of rappers do that anyway Angry
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« Reply #61 on: January 09, 2014, 12:42:46 AM »

I'm tired of all these reality t.v. shows and I like shows that have real live studio audiences instead of laugh tracks, excluding those classic shows such as Andy Griffith or Bewitched etc.
Yeah, reality shows sucks!
That's the main reason why MTV degenerated from a cool Music Channel and the place where you can watch Beavis and Butthead to a reality channel which is a shadow of it's former self

exactly! and the joke is reality shows aren't fully reality.  a couple of my friends talk about how great an episode of Bad Girls Club is and I'm sitting there going  Wall
Yeah, a lot of "reality" shows are scripted and fake.
I don't mind Pawn Stars and American Restoration, but other than them, I can't really stand any reality shows

mm hmm and a lot of these sitcoms suck too. Big Bang Theory, I watched an episode of that and didn't crack a smile once.  Maybe it's just me I don't know  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #62 on: January 09, 2014, 12:45:27 AM »

Sorry guys, Ye has legit musical talent apart from his grandiose personality, which I think is more funny than off-putting anyway. I understand that virtually nobody here likes hip-hop but Kanye is still a major force in that genre even if he is also a pop star as well where his appeal may be more divisive and perhaps limited. Kanye isn't anything close to an amazing rapper but he's an excellent producer and beat-maker and that's where I suspect his legacy will rest, even before he had a solo career. There's so much good hip-hop happening these days and I honestly think that is one genre where the mainstream performers are often just as listenable if not fully as good as those in the underground.
He's also the biggest egotistical douchebag in the music industry. He makes Mike Love look like a saint!



I know when his mom died he took it really hard  Sad.  That whole thing with him and Taylor Swift at the awards show might've had something to do with that, maybe.  But I have to admit even though he was wrong for ruining her moment, Beyoncé should've gotten that award  LOL
I don't think it's just that whole thing with Taylor Swift. I've always found him to be a egotistical douchebag anyway.
And I realize that I keep repeating "egotistical douchebag" but that's the perfect way to describe him  LOL

Lil Wayne's another one.  I can't see how people consider him to be the greatest rapper alive  Huh and he's always degrading women, but then again a lot of rappers do that anyway Angry
oh damn I forgot about him.
He's not as bad as Dr Dre who actually brutally beat up a woman once.
But Lil Wayne is just intolerable. f*** him! And he can't play guitar, you should see him try on YouTube, it's pretty pathetic
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« Reply #63 on: January 09, 2014, 12:48:06 AM »

I'm tired of all these reality t.v. shows and I like shows that have real live studio audiences instead of laugh tracks, excluding those classic shows such as Andy Griffith or Bewitched etc.
Yeah, reality shows sucks!
That's the main reason why MTV degenerated from a cool Music Channel and the place where you can watch Beavis and Butthead to a reality channel which is a shadow of it's former self

exactly! and the joke is reality shows aren't fully reality.  a couple of my friends talk about how great an episode of Bad Girls Club is and I'm sitting there going  Wall
Yeah, a lot of "reality" shows are scripted and fake.
I don't mind Pawn Stars and American Restoration, but other than them, I can't really stand any reality shows

mm hmm and a lot of these sitcoms suck too. Big Bang Theory, I watched an episode of that and didn't crack a smile once.  Maybe it's just me I don't know  Roll Eyes
Big Bang Theory is highly overrated. All my friends really like it, and I used to like it at one stage.
Sheldon is overrated, and they should just reveal Penny's surname.
The show is simply not half as funny as how many people claim, and I'm over it now
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« Reply #64 on: January 09, 2014, 12:50:03 AM »

Sorry guys, Ye has legit musical talent apart from his grandiose personality, which I think is more funny than off-putting anyway. I understand that virtually nobody here likes hip-hop but Kanye is still a major force in that genre even if he is also a pop star as well where his appeal may be more divisive and perhaps limited. Kanye isn't anything close to an amazing rapper but he's an excellent producer and beat-maker and that's where I suspect his legacy will rest, even before he had a solo career. There's so much good hip-hop happening these days and I honestly think that is one genre where the mainstream performers are often just as listenable if not fully as good as those in the underground.
He's also the biggest egotistical douchebag in the music industry. He makes Mike Love look like a saint!



I know when his mom died he took it really hard  Sad.  That whole thing with him and Taylor Swift at the awards show might've had something to do with that, maybe.  But I have to admit even though he was wrong for ruining her moment, Beyoncé should've gotten that award  LOL
I don't think it's just that whole thing with Taylor Swift. I've always found him to be a egotistical douchebag anyway.
And I realize that I keep repeating "egotistical douchebag" but that's the perfect way to describe him  LOL

Lil Wayne's another one.  I can't see how people consider him to be the greatest rapper alive  Huh and he's always degrading women, but then again a lot of rappers do that anyway Angry
oh damn I forgot about him.
He's not as bad as Dr Dre who actually brutally beat up a woman once.
But Lil Wayne is just intolerable. f*** him! And he can't play guitar, you should see him try on YouTube, it's pretty pathetic

Omg i just watched a video of him playing one that was...... LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL at least he.... tried?
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« Reply #65 on: January 09, 2014, 12:54:30 AM »

I'm tired of all these reality t.v. shows and I like shows that have real live studio audiences instead of laugh tracks, excluding those classic shows such as Andy Griffith or Bewitched etc.
Yeah, reality shows sucks!
That's the main reason why MTV degenerated from a cool Music Channel and the place where you can watch Beavis and Butthead to a reality channel which is a shadow of it's former self

exactly! and the joke is reality shows aren't fully reality.  a couple of my friends talk about how great an episode of Bad Girls Club is and I'm sitting there going  Wall
Yeah, a lot of "reality" shows are scripted and fake.
I don't mind Pawn Stars and American Restoration, but other than them, I can't really stand any reality shows

mm hmm and a lot of these sitcoms suck too. Big Bang Theory, I watched an episode of that and didn't crack a smile once.  Maybe it's just me I don't know  Roll Eyes
Big Bang Theory is highly overrated. All my friends really like it, and I used to like it at one stage.
Sheldon is overrated, and they should just reveal Penny's surname.
The show is simply not half as funny as how many people claim, and I'm over it now

Yea cuz i love comedy shows and I think the 70s was the golden age of them and on top of that the shows had a message to share with the viewers and the whole family could watch and be entertained by it.  Now it's....these writers.... Dead Horse
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« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2014, 01:01:28 AM »

I'm tired of all these reality t.v. shows and I like shows that have real live studio audiences instead of laugh tracks, excluding those classic shows such as Andy Griffith or Bewitched etc.
Yeah, reality shows sucks!
That's the main reason why MTV degenerated from a cool Music Channel and the place where you can watch Beavis and Butthead to a reality channel which is a shadow of it's former self

exactly! and the joke is reality shows aren't fully reality.  a couple of my friends talk about how great an episode of Bad Girls Club is and I'm sitting there going  Wall
Yeah, a lot of "reality" shows are scripted and fake.
I don't mind Pawn Stars and American Restoration, but other than them, I can't really stand any reality shows

mm hmm and a lot of these sitcoms suck too. Big Bang Theory, I watched an episode of that and didn't crack a smile once.  Maybe it's just me I don't know  Roll Eyes
Big Bang Theory is highly overrated. All my friends really like it, and I used to like it at one stage.
Sheldon is overrated, and they should just reveal Penny's surname.
The show is simply not half as funny as how many people claim, and I'm over it now

Yea cuz i love comedy shows and I think the 70s was the golden age of them and on top of that the shows had a message to share with the viewers and the whole family could watch and be entertained by it.  Now it's....these writers.... Dead Horse
The 90's were great too with shows such as Seinfeld, Friends and That 70's Show.
But I guess shows from the 70's aren't too bad. Just not really used to them
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« Reply #67 on: January 09, 2014, 01:05:12 AM »

Sorry guys, Ye has legit musical talent apart from his grandiose personality, which I think is more funny than off-putting anyway. I understand that virtually nobody here likes hip-hop but Kanye is still a major force in that genre even if he is also a pop star as well where his appeal may be more divisive and perhaps limited. Kanye isn't anything close to an amazing rapper but he's an excellent producer and beat-maker and that's where I suspect his legacy will rest, even before he had a solo career. There's so much good hip-hop happening these days and I honestly think that is one genre where the mainstream performers are often just as listenable if not fully as good as those in the underground.
He's also the biggest egotistical douchebag in the music industry. He makes Mike Love look like a saint!



I know when his mom died he took it really hard  Sad.  That whole thing with him and Taylor Swift at the awards show might've had something to do with that, maybe.  But I have to admit even though he was wrong for ruining her moment, Beyoncé should've gotten that award  LOL
I don't think it's just that whole thing with Taylor Swift. I've always found him to be a egotistical douchebag anyway.
And I realize that I keep repeating "egotistical douchebag" but that's the perfect way to describe him  LOL

Lil Wayne's another one.  I can't see how people consider him to be the greatest rapper alive  Huh and he's always degrading women, but then again a lot of rappers do that anyway Angry
oh damn I forgot about him.
He's not as bad as Dr Dre who actually brutally beat up a woman once.
But Lil Wayne is just intolerable. f*** him! And he can't play guitar, you should see him try on YouTube, it's pretty pathetic

Omg i just watched a video of him playing one that was...... LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL at least he.... tried?
Hopefully for the sake of everyone he doesn't try again.
But unfortunately, he's done it many times, not just once
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« Reply #68 on: January 09, 2014, 01:12:08 AM »

Yea that 70s Show is one of my favorite shows too  Grin.  and shows like x factor and American idol,  some of the people that get through seem like it was all staged like 1D and on the American x factor, why did they have Britney Spears as a judge? she can't sing herself and at times she was ruder than Simon to the contestants  Angry
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« Reply #69 on: January 09, 2014, 01:15:39 AM »

Yea that 70s Show is one of my favorite shows too  Grin.  and shows like x factor and American idol,  some of the people that get through seem like it was all staged like 1D and on the American x factor, why did they have Britney Spears as a judge? she can't sing herself and at times she was ruder than Simon to the contestants  Angry
Yeah, I try to avoid the X Factor and the Idol shows or The Voice or any shows like that
I don't think it's worth watching, it's just a way to get famous quick
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« Reply #70 on: January 09, 2014, 05:42:28 PM »

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« Reply #71 on: January 09, 2014, 05:43:39 PM »

Why did my post get deleted?
What do you mean?

1st. Your post is still there, on the second page.
2nd. It's impossible to delete posts, you can only edit them.
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« Reply #72 on: January 09, 2014, 11:40:04 PM »

So many people insist there is still good music being made - so how come I've not heard any of it?
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« Reply #73 on: January 09, 2014, 11:44:16 PM »

So many people insist there is still good music being made - so how come I've not heard any of it?
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Though it does depend on your taste in music, like what type of genres you like
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« Reply #74 on: January 10, 2014, 12:27:51 AM »

another thing that annoys me are these fan labels: Swifties- Taylor Swift, directioners- 1D, smilers- Miley Cyrus, beliebers- Justin Bieber, little monsters- Lady Gaga, katy cats- Katy Perry, rossians- Ross Lynch, etc  Huh
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