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The entire article/announcement can be found on "Examiner", but here's the apparent tracklist. Surprised more isn't being made of this, it's hours old and nothing "official" so far on the Beatles website as of noon today...guess they're still busy plugging BBC 2
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JohnManning and others: It's been awhile since I dusted off "Unsurpassed Masters" or Ultra Rare Trax...Does anything stand out on this proposed tracklist as unique or new, stuff we've not heard before?
"The Beatles will reportedly release "The Beatles Bootleg Recordings 1963," a digital-only album of Beatles rare tracks exclusively to iTunes next week that will include studio outtakes and more songs recorded live for the BBC. The 59-track release, which has not yet been officially announced, will take place Dec. 17."
1. “There's A Place” - Takes 5, 6. 2:19
2. “There's A Place” - Take 8. 1:58
3. “There's A Place” - Take 9. 2:04
4. “Do You Want To Known A Secret” - Track 2, Take 7. 2:17
5. “A Taste Of Honey” - Track 2, Take 6. 2:12
6. “I Saw Her Standing There” - Take 2. 3:07
7. “Misery” - Take 1. 1:54
8. “Misery” - Take 7. 1:56
9. “From Me To You” - Take 1 & 2. 3:24
10. “From Me To You” - Take 5. 2:17
11. “Thank You Girl” - Take 1. 2:09
12. “Thank You Girl” - Take 5. 2:04
13. “One After 909” - Take 1 & 2. 4:29
14. “Hold Me Tight” - Take 21. 2:42
15. “Money (That's What I Want)” - RM 7 Undubbed 2:48
16. “Some Other Guy” - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 26th January, 1963. 2:02.
17. “Love Me Do” - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 26th January, 1963. 2:31
18. “Too Much Monkey Business” - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 16th March, 1963 1:50
19. “I Saw Her Standing There” - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 16th March, 1963. 2:38.
20. “Do You Want To Know A Secret” - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 25th May, 1963 1:50
21. “From Me To You” - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 26th May, 1963. 1:54
22. “I Got To Find My Baby” - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 26th January, 1963 1:59.
23. “Roll Over Beethoven” - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 29th June, 1963 2:29
24. “A Taste Of Honey” - Live At BBC For "Easy Beat" / 23rd June, 1963 2:01
25. “Love Me Do” - Live At BBC For "Easy Beat" / 20th October, 1963 2:29
26. “Please Please Me” - Live At BBC For "Easy Beat" / 20th October, 1963 2:08
27. “She Loves You” - Live At BBC For "Easy Beat" / 20th October, 1963 2:29
28. “I Want To Hold Your Hand” - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 21st December, 1963 2:19
29. “Till There Was You” - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 21st December, 1963 2:16
30. “Roll Over Beethoveen” - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 21st December, 1963 2:16
31. “You Really Got A Hold On Me” - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 4th June, 1963 2:54
32. “The Hippy Hippy Shake” - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 4th June, 1963 1:43
33. “Till There Was You” - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" /11th June, 1963 2:14
34. “A Shot Of Rhythm And Blues” - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 18th June, 1963 2:06
35. “A Taste Of Honey” - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 18th June, 1963 1:56
36. “Money (That's What I Want)” - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 18th June, 1963 2:41
37. “Anna” - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 25th June, 1963 3:02
38. “Love Me Do” - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 10th September, 1963 2:29
39. “She Loves You” - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 24th September, 1963 2:16
40. “I'll Get You” - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 10th September, 1963 2:05
41. “A Taste Of Honey” - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 10th September, 1963 2:00
42. “Boys” - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 17th September, 1963 2:12
43. “Chains” - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 17th September, 1963 2:22
44. “You Really Got A Hold On Me” - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 17th September, 1963 2:57
45. “I Saw Her Standing There” - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 24th September, 1963 2:41
46. “She Loves You” - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 10th September, 1963 2:15
47. “Twist And Shout” - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 24th September, 1963 2:36
48. “Do You Want To Know A Secret” - Live At BBC For "Here We Go" / 12th March, 1963 1:55
49. “Please Please Me” - Live At BBC For "Here We Go" / 12th March, 1963 1:57
50. “Long Tall Sally” - Live At BBC For "Side By Side" / 13th May, 1963 1:49
51. “Chains” - Live At BBC For "Side By Side" / 13th May, 1963 2:23
52. “Boys” - Live At BBC For "Side By Side" / 13th May, 1963 1:53
53. “A Taste Of Honey” - Live At BBC For "Side By Side" / 13th May, 1963 2:04
54. “Roll Over Beethoven” - Live At BBC For "From Us To You" / 26th December, 1963 2:17
55. “All My Loving” - Live At BBC For "From Us To You" / 26th December, 1963 2:06
56. “She Loves You” - Live At BBC For "From Us To You" / 26th December, 1963 2:21
57. “Till There Was You” - Live At BBC For "From Us To You" / 26th December, 1963 2:12
58. “Bad To Me” - Demo 1:29
59. “I'm In Love” - Demo 1:32
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Cool news. I love the demo of Bad To Me. I love the demo to I'm In Love even more.
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I'm totally going to buy this but enough with the BBC tapes! I want a Hollywood Bowl reissue with both concerts in their entirety!
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I'm excited, but not so much for the material here.
I'm more excited about the possible things that might come our way in the future because of this.
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I'm not buying, but just curious: are any of those BBC tracks repeats from the official volumes?
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This seems pretty damn cool, but the whole "internet only" digital albums thing sucks for people like myself, who still want the physical cd with a booklet. I have several bootleg cd's of studio outtakes and sessions, so I also wonder if there will be anything "new" to collectors like myself. I'm still hoping for a "BBC Sessions volume 3: The Pete Best Years". Although, with some lost and/or possibly destroyed tracks, and the sound quality of the available tracks, I can understand why none of the Pete Best BBC tracks have been released.
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Somewhat related...
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beatles-box-set-to-reissue-all-u-s-albums-20131212
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Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on December 12, 2013, 03:13:38 PM
Somewhat related...
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beatles-box-set-to-reissue-all-u-s-albums-20131212
Excited for no reason. Buying for no reason. Wallet is sad.
It will be like the Mono box for me. Something pretty to look at once in a while then I'll just stick on my LPs
[I do also have the Capitol albums Vol. 1 & 2, but they were pretty loud]
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Awesome! I've loved Bad to Me ever since I heard in many years ago.
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Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on December 12, 2013, 03:13:38 PM
Somewhat related...
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beatles-box-set-to-reissue-all-u-s-albums-20131212
From what I've heard, they won't be using the US mixes (which weren't great to begin with) for the US albums...what's the point of this?
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I'm surprised that the Bad To Me demo is being released. Not only is it a scratchy acetate, but the guitar is horribly out of tune.
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Quote from: Awesoman on December 16, 2013, 06:50:07 PM
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on December 12, 2013, 03:13:38 PM
Somewhat related...
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beatles-box-set-to-reissue-all-u-s-albums-20131212
From what I've heard, they won't be using the US mixes (which weren't great to begin with) for the US albums...what's the point of this?
What I read on amazon a few minutes ago implied that it would be the US mixes.
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When I was a little kid my dad brought home a copy of the Hey Jude album. I remember spending quite a while looking at the awesome front and back covers. Even though it won't offer any unreleased bonus cuts, I'm quite excited to get a cd copy, if only for nostalgic reasons.
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Quote from: Diaphanous Moiety on December 17, 2013, 01:26:00 AM
When I was a little kid my dad brought home a copy of the Hey Jude album. I remember spending quite a while looking at the awesome front and back covers. Even though it won't offer any unreleased bonus cuts, I'm quite excited to get a cd copy, if only for nostalgic reasons.
I did the same - and puzzled over what exactly this album was, not really a greatest hits, but sort of a hits comp, going all the way from "Can't Buy My Love" and "I Should Have Known Better" in 1964 to several 1969 singles. And I still hear those songs in my head in THAT running order, so yes, I will have to get the cd.
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Quote from: Diaphanous Moiety on December 17, 2013, 01:26:00 AM
When I was a little kid my dad brought home a copy of the Hey Jude album. I remember spending quite a while looking at the awesome front and back covers. Even though it won't offer any unreleased bonus cuts, I'm quite excited to get a cd copy, if only for nostalgic reasons.
I did the same - and puzzled over what exactly this album was, not really a greatest hits, but sort of a hits comp, going all the way from "Can't Buy My Love" and "I Should Have Known Better" in 1964 to several 1969 singles. And I still hear those songs in my head in THAT running order, so yes, I will have to get the cd.
Yeah, the artwork didn't exactly go with the content, did it?
It took me a while to figure out that that was John Lennon. He looked like some Indian guru. George looked like the meanest sob on earth.
I also spent a while looking at that weird bust figure, wondering what on earth it had to do with The Beatles. I
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Quote from: Lonely Summer on December 17, 2013, 12:46:39 AM
Quote from: Awesoman on December 16, 2013, 06:50:07 PM
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on December 12, 2013, 03:13:38 PM
Somewhat related...
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beatles-box-set-to-reissue-all-u-s-albums-20131212
From what I've heard, they won't be using the US mixes (which weren't great to begin with) for the US albums...what's the point of this?
What I read on amazon a few minutes ago implied that it would be the US mixes.
It should be noted that, aside from 20 unique mixes(different to the Uk mixes) that George Martin supplied to Capitol for the U.S.A. albums, that the 1960's U.S.A. albums DID use the UK stereo & mono mixes, albeit from 3rd generation copies. Granted, there were some instances where Capitol drastically altered the sound of what they received(with lots of added reverb on "the Beatles Second Album" & two songs on "Beatles '65"). Some "purists" will only be satisfied if Capitol uses 3rd generation copies for the forthcoming boxed set, to give a "warts & All" presentation of the American albums, but Capitol isn't going to do that this time.(those purists can get verbatim "Warts & All" versions, with occasional fake stereo tracks on the two "Capitol Albums" 4-CD sets).
In the new boxed set, the 2009 UK stereo & mono remasters will be used for those tracks where(on the original Capitol L.P.'s) the Uk mixes were used. Tracks that Capitol originally presented in "Duophonic" fake stereo will be presented in true stereo or pure mono(depending on what is available), and most importantly, the 20 unique mixes WILL be presented from the best existing tapes for those unique mixes. As I understand it, for those songs where Capitol originally added loads of reverb, the new remasters will present those songs WITHOUT the added reverb.
United Artists originally received the "A Hard Days Night" orchestral music in both stereo & mono, but they received the Beatles recordings only via very poor mono copies, to which they added an especially appalling(worse that Duophonic) fake stereo effect; one which involved suddenly panning the signal to the right during certain passages. The new presentation of the U.S.A. "A Hard Days Night" album will use full quality sources for The Beatles songs, and likely true stereo for the stereo album. That will be a big improvement, even though the "purists" will howl with anger.
"The Early Beatles" & The U.S.A. "Help" album originally used fold-downs for the mono editions. Undoubtedly, in the new boxed set, the dedicated mono mixes will be used to represent the mono editions. Again, this will be an improvement, and the "purists" will be complaining.
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Quote from: Lonely Summer on December 17, 2013, 11:04:20 PM
Quote from: Diaphanous Moiety on December 17, 2013, 01:26:00 AM
When I was a little kid my dad brought home a copy of the Hey Jude album. I remember spending quite a while looking at the awesome front and back covers. Even though it won't offer any unreleased bonus cuts, I'm quite excited to get a cd copy, if only for nostalgic reasons.
I did the same - and puzzled over what exactly this album was, not really a greatest hits, but sort of a hits comp, going all the way from "Can't Buy My Love" and "I Should Have Known Better" in 1964 to several 1969 singles. And I still hear those songs in my head in THAT running order, so yes, I will have to get the cd.
The "Hey Jude" album was compiled by ABKCO employee Al Steckler, and its objective was to bring together songs which had not previously appeared on a Capitol U.S.A. album. "Can't Buy Me Love" & "I Should Have Known Better" met that Criteria. The album also provided the worldwide stereo debut for some of the songs. That was a strong selling point.
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Quote from: PhilCohen on December 18, 2013, 12:16:04 AM
Quote from: Lonely Summer on December 17, 2013, 12:46:39 AM
Quote from: Awesoman on December 16, 2013, 06:50:07 PM
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on December 12, 2013, 03:13:38 PM
Somewhat related...
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beatles-box-set-to-reissue-all-u-s-albums-20131212
From what I've heard, they won't be using the US mixes (which weren't great to begin with) for the US albums...what's the point of this?
What I read on amazon a few minutes ago implied that it would be the US mixes.
It should be noted that, aside from 20 unique mixes(different to the Uk mixes) that George Martin supplied to Capitol for the U.S.A. albums, that the 1960's U.S.A. albums DID use the UK stereo & mono mixes, albeit from 3rd generation copies. Granted, there were some instances where Capitol drastically altered the sound of what they received(with lots of added reverb on "the Beatles Second Album" & two songs on "Beatles '65"). Some "purists" will only be satisfied if Capitol uses 3rd generation copies for the forthcoming boxed set, to give a "warts & All" presentation of the American albums, but Capitol isn't going to do that this time.(those purists can get verbatim "Warts & All" versions, with occasional fake stereo tracks on the two "Capitol Albums" 4-CD sets).
In the new boxed set, the 2009 UK stereo & mono remasters will be used for those tracks where(on the original Capitol L.P.'s) the Uk mixes were used. Tracks that Capitol originally presented in "Duophonic" fake stereo will be presented in true stereo or pure mono(depending on what is available), and most importantly, the 20 unique mixes WILL be presented from the best existing tapes for those unique mixes. As I understand it, for those songs where Capitol originally added loads of reverb, the new remasters will present those songs WITHOUT the added reverb.
United Artists originally received the "A Hard Days Night" orchestral music in both stereo & mono, but they received the Beatles recordings only via very poor mono copies, to which they added an especially appalling(worse that Duophonic) fake stereo effect; one which involved suddenly panning the signal to the right during certain passages. The new presentation of the U.S.A. "A Hard Days Night" album will use full quality sources for The Beatles songs, and likely true stereo for the stereo album. That will be a big improvement, even though the "purists" will howl with anger.
"The Early Beatles" & The U.S.A. "Help" album originally used fold-downs for the mono editions. Undoubtedly, in the new boxed set, the dedicated mono mixes will be used to represent the mono editions. Again, this will be an improvement, and the "purists" will be complaining.
So, give me your take on what they will do with the three Revolver songs on Yesterday...and Today? Will we still get the earlier May 12, 1966 mixes in mono and new stereo mixes of those three songs or will they use the later mixes used on the UK Revolver?
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Quote from: drbeachboy on December 18, 2013, 07:12:51 AM
Quote from: PhilCohen on December 18, 2013, 12:16:04 AM
Quote from: Lonely Summer on December 17, 2013, 12:46:39 AM
Quote from: Awesoman on December 16, 2013, 06:50:07 PM
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on December 12, 2013, 03:13:38 PM
Somewhat related...
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beatles-box-set-to-reissue-all-u-s-albums-20131212
From what I've heard, they won't be using the US mixes (which weren't great to begin with) for the US albums...what's the point of this?
What I read on amazon a few minutes ago implied that it would be the US mixes.
It should be noted that, aside from 20 unique mixes(different to the Uk mixes) that George Martin supplied to Capitol for the U.S.A. albums, that the 1960's U.S.A. albums DID use the UK stereo & mono mixes, albeit from 3rd generation copies. Granted, there were some instances where Capitol drastically altered the sound of what they received(with lots of added reverb on "the Beatles Second Album" & two songs on "Beatles '65"). Some "purists" will only be satisfied if Capitol uses 3rd generation copies for the forthcoming boxed set, to give a "warts & All" presentation of the American albums, but Capitol isn't going to do that this time.(those purists can get verbatim "Warts & All" versions, with occasional fake stereo tracks on the two "Capitol Albums" 4-CD sets).
In the new boxed set, the 2009 UK stereo & mono remasters will be used for those tracks where(on the original Capitol L.P.'s) the Uk mixes were used. Tracks that Capitol originally presented in "Duophonic" fake stereo will be presented in true stereo or pure mono(depending on what is available), and most importantly, the 20 unique mixes WILL be presented from the best existing tapes for those unique mixes. As I understand it, for those songs where Capitol originally added loads of reverb, the new remasters will present those songs WITHOUT the added reverb.
United Artists originally received the "A Hard Days Night" orchestral music in both stereo & mono, but they received the Beatles recordings only via very poor mono copies, to which they added an especially appalling(worse that Duophonic) fake stereo effect; one which involved suddenly panning the signal to the right during certain passages. The new presentation of the U.S.A. "A Hard Days Night" album will use full quality sources for The Beatles songs, and likely true stereo for the stereo album. That will be a big improvement, even though the "purists" will howl with anger.
"The Early Beatles" & The U.S.A. "Help" album originally used fold-downs for the mono editions. Undoubtedly, in the new boxed set, the dedicated mono mixes will be used to represent the mono editions. Again, this will be an improvement, and the "purists" will be complaining.
So, give me your take on what they will do with the three Revolver songs on Yesterday...and Today? Will we still get the earlier May 12, 1966 mixes in mono and new stereo mixes of those three songs or will they use the later mixes used on the UK Revolver?
The unique mixes(The stereo "Day Tripper" & "We Can Work It Out" and the stereo & mono "I'm only Sleeping") will be presented correctly, and the remaining stereo & mono songs will likely be presented from the 2009 analog to digital transfers derived from the UK original stereo & mono masters.
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Quote from: Lonely Summer on December 17, 2013, 12:46:39 AM
Quote from: Awesoman on December 16, 2013, 06:50:07 PM
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on December 12, 2013, 03:13:38 PM
Somewhat related...
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beatles-box-set-to-reissue-all-u-s-albums-20131212
From what I've heard, they won't be using the US mixes (which weren't great to begin with) for the US albums...what's the point of this?
What I read on amazon a few minutes ago implied that it would be the US mixes.
It should be noted that, aside from 20 unique mixes(different to the Uk mixes) that George Martin supplied to Capitol for the U.S.A. albums, that the 1960's U.S.A. albums DID use the UK stereo & mono mixes, albeit from 3rd generation copies. Granted, there were some instances where Capitol drastically altered the sound of what they received(with lots of added reverb on "the Beatles Second Album" & two songs on "Beatles '65"). Some "purists" will only be satisfied if Capitol uses 3rd generation copies for the forthcoming boxed set, to give a "warts & All" presentation of the American albums, but Capitol isn't going to do that this time.(those purists can get verbatim "Warts & All" versions, with occasional fake stereo tracks on the two "Capitol Albums" 4-CD sets).
In the new boxed set, the 2009 UK stereo & mono remasters will be used for those tracks where(on the original Capitol L.P.'s) the Uk mixes were used. Tracks that Capitol originally presented in "Duophonic" fake stereo will be presented in true stereo or pure mono(depending on what is available), and most importantly, the 20 unique mixes WILL be presented from the best existing tapes for those unique mixes. As I understand it, for those songs where Capitol originally added loads of reverb, the new remasters will present those songs WITHOUT the added reverb.
United Artists originally received the "A Hard Days Night" orchestral music in both stereo & mono, but they received the Beatles recordings only via very poor mono copies, to which they added an especially appalling(worse that Duophonic) fake stereo effect; one which involved suddenly panning the signal to the right during certain passages. The new presentation of the U.S.A. "A Hard Days Night" album will use full quality sources for The Beatles songs, and likely true stereo for the stereo album. That will be a big improvement, even though the "purists" will howl with anger.
"The Early Beatles" & The U.S.A. "Help" album originally used fold-downs for the mono editions. Undoubtedly, in the new boxed set, the dedicated mono mixes will be used to represent the mono editions. Again, this will be an improvement, and the "purists" will be complaining.
So, give me your take on what they will do with the three Revolver songs on Yesterday...and Today? Will we still get the earlier May 12, 1966 mixes in mono and new stereo mixes of those three songs or will they use the later mixes used on the UK Revolver?
The unique mixes(The stereo "Day Tripper" & "We Can Work It Out" and the stereo & mono "I'm only Sleeping") will be presented correctly, and the remaining stereo & mono songs will likely be presented from the 2009 analog to digital transfers derived from the UK original stereo & mono masters.
Thanks! It was my understanding that Dr. Robert & And Your Bird Can Sing were also early mixes and different from the mixes used on the UK Revolver.
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When I was a little kid my dad brought home a copy of the Hey Jude album. I remember spending quite a while looking at the awesome front and back covers. Even though it won't offer any unreleased bonus cuts, I'm quite excited to get a cd copy, if only for nostalgic reasons.
I did the same - and puzzled over what exactly this album was, not really a greatest hits, but sort of a hits comp, going all the way from "Can't Buy My Love" and "I Should Have Known Better" in 1964 to several 1969 singles. And I still hear those songs in my head in THAT running order, so yes, I will have to get the cd.
Yeah, the artwork didn't exactly go with the content, did it?
It took me a while to figure out that that was John Lennon. He looked like some Indian guru. George looked like the meanest sob on earth.
I also spent a while looking at that weird bust figure, wondering what on earth it had to do with The Beatles. I
still
can't figure it out.
The setting for those photos is John's home at Tittenhurst Park. But yeah, it was the jeans and beards era, similar to the way they looked on Abbey Road.
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When I was a little kid my dad brought home a copy of the Hey Jude album. I remember spending quite a while looking at the awesome front and back covers. Even though it won't offer any unreleased bonus cuts, I'm quite excited to get a cd copy, if only for nostalgic reasons.
I did the same - and puzzled over what exactly this album was, not really a greatest hits, but sort of a hits comp, going all the way from "Can't Buy My Love" and "I Should Have Known Better" in 1964 to several 1969 singles. And I still hear those songs in my head in THAT running order, so yes, I will have to get the cd.
The "Hey Jude" album was compiled by ABKCO employee Al Steckler, and its objective was to bring together songs which had not previously appeared on a Capitol U.S.A. album. "Can't Buy Me Love" & "I Should Have Known Better" met that Criteria. The album also provided the worldwide stereo debut for some of the songs. That was a strong selling point.
Also keep in mind that
Hey Jude
, unlike the rest of those American albums, was created with Beatles involvement. Which is obvious, as it's an Apple release, which the had to have signed off on.
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Somewhat related...
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beatles-box-set-to-reissue-all-u-s-albums-20131212
From what I've heard, they won't be using the US mixes (which weren't great to begin with) for the US albums...what's the point of this?
What I read on amazon a few minutes ago implied that it would be the US mixes.
It should be noted that, aside from 20 unique mixes(different to the Uk mixes) that George Martin supplied to Capitol for the U.S.A. albums, that the 1960's U.S.A. albums DID use the UK stereo & mono mixes, albeit from 3rd generation copies. Granted, there were some instances where Capitol drastically altered the sound of what they received(with lots of added reverb on "the Beatles Second Album" & two songs on "Beatles '65"). Some "purists" will only be satisfied if Capitol uses 3rd generation copies for the forthcoming boxed set, to give a "warts & All" presentation of the American albums, but Capitol isn't going to do that this time.(those purists can get verbatim "Warts & All" versions, with occasional fake stereo tracks on the two "Capitol Albums" 4-CD sets).
In the new boxed set, the 2009 UK stereo & mono remasters will be used for those tracks where(on the original Capitol L.P.'s) the Uk mixes were used. Tracks that Capitol originally presented in "Duophonic" fake stereo will be presented in true stereo or pure mono(depending on what is available), and most importantly, the 20 unique mixes WILL be presented from the best existing tapes for those unique mixes. As I understand it, for those songs where Capitol originally added loads of reverb, the new remasters will present those songs WITHOUT the added reverb.
United Artists originally received the "A Hard Days Night" orchestral music in both stereo & mono, but they received the Beatles recordings only via very poor mono copies, to which they added an especially appalling(worse that Duophonic) fake stereo effect; one which involved suddenly panning the signal to the right during certain passages. The new presentation of the U.S.A. "A Hard Days Night" album will use full quality sources for The Beatles songs, and likely true stereo for the stereo album. That will be a big improvement, even though the "purists" will howl with anger.
"The Early Beatles" & The U.S.A. "Help" album originally used fold-downs for the mono editions. Undoubtedly, in the new boxed set, the dedicated mono mixes will be used to represent the mono editions. Again, this will be an improvement, and the "purists" will be complaining.
So, give me your take on what they will do with the three Revolver songs on Yesterday...and Today? Will we still get the earlier May 12, 1966 mixes in mono and new stereo mixes of those three songs or will they use the later mixes used on the UK Revolver?
The unique mixes(The stereo "Day Tripper" & "We Can Work It Out" and the stereo & mono "I'm only Sleeping") will be presented correctly, and the remaining stereo & mono songs will likely be presented from the 2009 analog to digital transfers derived from the UK original stereo & mono masters.
Thanks! It was my understanding that Dr. Robert & And Your Bird Can Sing were also early mixes and different from the mixes used on the UK Revolver.
That's what I thought for many years. The Uk got true stereo for those two songs. The U.S.A. got fake stereo(at least for the first few years that "Yesterday…and Today" was on the market).
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