RIP Nelson Mandela

[Rocky Raccoon]

A truly incredible human being and an inspiration to us all.

[Andrew G. Doe]

A great man, in so many ways.

[Rob Dean]

A man of great principles , and a principle of great political & cultural change
A true inspiration for future ages (we all hope)
A strong influence in the combat against racism, ended apartheid and gave many a fair chance to live as they deserved. RIP

[bluesno1fann]

His death came as no surprise due to his age (95) and his declining health. Still, it is a sad day, and he will be missed.
He will forever be remembered for bringing an end to Apartheid.
R.I.P.

[Jay]

I am about to possibly cause one of the biggest outcries on this board. No matter what the man did in the decades after he was released from prison, he started his "career" with pro-militant views, and was convicted of treason. People tend to conveniently forget that.

[smilethebeachboysloveyou]

I am about to possibly cause one of the biggest outcries on this board. No matter what the man did in the decades after he was released from prison, he started his "career" with pro-militant views, and was convicted of treason. People tend to conveniently forget that.

Can you explain to me what's wrong with trying to overthrow a systematically racist and repressive government?

[SMiLE Brian]

A true legend in world history. He will be missed.

[filledeplage]

I am about to possibly cause one of the biggest outcries on this board. No matter what the man did in the decades after he was released from prison, he started his "career" with pro-militant views, and was convicted of treason. People tend to conveniently forget that.

The same could be argued about the "Resistance" from WWII.  One must look to the law and whether it inherently denies human rights.  Mandela was trained as an attorney and must have known that.  It all depends "where one sits" when analyzing this.  If you sit on the "enslaved side" then you are looking at the human rights issues.  Even certain states and cities, divested shares, etc., from South Africa to end apartheid. 

If you are running a colonial empire, you construe actions against your financial and governmental interests, to be unlawful.  The US went through the same thing with the Civil War, and the American Revolution.  When oppresssion is the greatest; so is the resistance against it.  There was plenty of militancy and sabotage during WWII.  It helped the people save themselves. 

[bluesno1fann]

I am about to possibly cause one of the biggest outcries on this board. No matter what the man did in the decades after he was released from prison, he started his "career" with pro-militant views, and was convicted of treason. People tend to conveniently forget that.

The same could be argued about the "Resistance" from WWII.  One must look to the law and whether it inherently denies human rights.  Mandela was trained as an attorney and must have known that.  It all depends "where one sits" when analyzing this.  If you sit on the "enslaved side" then you are looking at the human rights issues.  Even certain states and cities, divested shares, etc., from South Africa to end apartheid.  

If you are running a colonial empire, you construe actions against your financial and governmental interests, to be unlawful.  The US went through the same thing with the Civil War, and the American Revolution.  When oppresssion is the greatest; so is the resistance against it.  There was plenty of militancy and sabotage during WWII.  It helped the people save themselves.  

Agreed. Another good example is the oppression of Palestinians by Israel. Almost like another apartheid. But that's another topic for another time  

[Jason]

I am about to possibly cause one of the biggest outcries on this board. No matter what the man did in the decades after he was released from prison, he started his "career" with pro-militant views, and was convicted of treason. People tend to conveniently forget that.

The same could be argued about the "Resistance" from WWII.  One must look to the law and whether it inherently denies human rights.  Mandela was trained as an attorney and must have known that.  It all depends "where one sits" when analyzing this.  If you sit on the "enslaved side" then you are looking at the human rights issues.  Even certain states and cities, divested shares, etc., from South Africa to end apartheid.  

If you are running a colonial empire, you construe actions against your financial and governmental interests, to be unlawful.  The US went through the same thing with the Civil War, and the American Revolution.  When oppresssion is the greatest; so is the resistance against it.  There was plenty of militancy and sabotage during WWII.  It helped the people save themselves.  

Agreed. Another good example is the oppression of Palestinians by Israel. Almost like another apartheid. But that's another topic for another time  

I don't envy the shitstorm you've just invited upon yourself...

[bluesno1fann]

I am about to possibly cause one of the biggest outcries on this board. No matter what the man did in the decades after he was released from prison, he started his "career" with pro-militant views, and was convicted of treason. People tend to conveniently forget that.

The same could be argued about the "Resistance" from WWII.  One must look to the law and whether it inherently denies human rights.  Mandela was trained as an attorney and must have known that.  It all depends "where one sits" when analyzing this.  If you sit on the "enslaved side" then you are looking at the human rights issues.  Even certain states and cities, divested shares, etc., from South Africa to end apartheid.  

If you are running a colonial empire, you construe actions against your financial and governmental interests, to be unlawful.  The US went through the same thing with the Civil War, and the American Revolution.  When oppresssion is the greatest; so is the resistance against it.  There was plenty of militancy and sabotage during WWII.  It helped the people save themselves.  

Agreed. Another good example is the oppression of Palestinians by Israel. Almost like another apartheid. But that's another topic for another time  

I don't envy the shitstorm you've just invited upon yourself...

What are you talking about?

[clinikillz]

Nelson was a great man. R.I.P. Mr. Mandela.

[Jason]

I am about to possibly cause one of the biggest outcries on this board. No matter what the man did in the decades after he was released from prison, he started his "career" with pro-militant views, and was convicted of treason. People tend to conveniently forget that.

The same could be argued about the "Resistance" from WWII.  One must look to the law and whether it inherently denies human rights.  Mandela was trained as an attorney and must have known that.  It all depends "where one sits" when analyzing this.  If you sit on the "enslaved side" then you are looking at the human rights issues.  Even certain states and cities, divested shares, etc., from South Africa to end apartheid.  

If you are running a colonial empire, you construe actions against your financial and governmental interests, to be unlawful.  The US went through the same thing with the Civil War, and the American Revolution.  When oppresssion is the greatest; so is the resistance against it.  There was plenty of militancy and sabotage during WWII.  It helped the people save themselves.  

Agreed. Another good example is the oppression of Palestinians by Israel. Almost like another apartheid. But that's another topic for another time  

I don't envy the shitstorm you've just invited upon yourself...

What are you talking about?

One does not make the apartheid analogy in the case of Israel and the Palestinians and get off without a load of neoconservative rhetoric.