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Beach Boys Survivor #12 WINNER: HEROES AND VILLAINS
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Topic: Beach Boys Survivor #12 WINNER: HEROES AND VILLAINS (Read 43687 times)
Rocky Raccoon
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #12: Smiley Smile
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December 13, 2013, 12:03:18 AM »
Quote from: PaedoSanta..heheheh on December 12, 2013, 09:30:01 PM
Quote from: Phoenix on December 12, 2013, 08:47:22 PM
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on December 12, 2013, 03:08:25 PM
How the hell did Good Vibrations get voted out?
Heroes and Villains of course.
Too many super hip hipsters, too hip for their own hip selves.
Or maybe it's because it didn't fit on the album at all, and it would have worked far better on either the original Smile or as a non-album single
This shouldn't be about album structure though. This is looking at the songs on their own. At least that's how I see it, otherwise it's tough to separate one from another.
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Marcella
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #12: Smiley Smile
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December 13, 2013, 01:22:40 AM »
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on December 13, 2013, 12:03:18 AM
Quote from: PaedoSanta..heheheh on December 12, 2013, 09:30:01 PM
Quote from: Phoenix on December 12, 2013, 08:47:22 PM
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on December 12, 2013, 03:08:25 PM
How the hell did Good Vibrations get voted out?
Heroes and Villains of course.
Too many super hip hipsters, too hip for their own hip selves.
Or maybe it's because it didn't fit on the album at all, and it would have worked far better on either the original Smile or as a non-album single
This shouldn't be about album structure though. This is looking at the songs on their own. At least that's how I see it, otherwise it's tough to separate one from another.
Not you, too Rocky Raccoon! If that is the case, then why delineate by album at all? GV is a top 10 BB track but not a top 3 SS track. I see no dis congruity at all with that because we, the smiley smilers, are intelligent enough to know the history of GV, SMiLE, Smiley Smile, and Brian's "fall from grace" for lack of a better word. It does not make us hipsters, it makes us informed
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Marcella
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #12: Smiley Smile
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Vegetables
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #12: Smiley Smile
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December 13, 2013, 02:38:34 AM »
Quote from: Marcella on December 13, 2013, 01:24:20 AM
Vegetables
Was that your vote or your comment on posters who think album context isn't important?
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Cabinessenceking
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #12: Smiley Smile
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December 13, 2013, 02:48:36 AM »
Vegetables
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buddhahat
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #12: Smiley Smile
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December 13, 2013, 03:02:22 AM »
Quote from: Help Me, Shady on December 12, 2013, 07:58:02 PM
Vegetables
Not the biggest fan of the smiley smile version
Shady - it's the final round so you need to be voting for your
favourite
track from the remaining three.
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buddhahat
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #12: Smiley Smile
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Reply #306 on:
December 13, 2013, 03:24:50 AM »
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on December 13, 2013, 12:03:18 AM
Quote from: PaedoSanta..heheheh on December 12, 2013, 09:30:01 PM
Quote from: Phoenix on December 12, 2013, 08:47:22 PM
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on December 12, 2013, 03:08:25 PM
How the hell did Good Vibrations get voted out?
Heroes and Villains of course.
Too many super hip hipsters, too hip for their own hip selves.
Or maybe it's because it didn't fit on the album at all, and it would have worked far better on either the original Smile or as a non-album single
This shouldn't be about album structure though. This is looking at the songs on their own. At least that's how I see it, otherwise it's tough to separate one from another.
If it was about assessing songs individually then this should be one giant weakest link thread dedicated to every beach Boys song recorded. Then you could argue that the album context was irrelevant. But in this case we are voting for songs within the context of the album and that context is one factor that some posters occasionally base their votes on. It's really not rocket science.
Even if you disregard the above argument, how would the proposed rules even work?
"Posters may only vote tracks off based on their individual merit and not for how they relate to other tracks within the album or how they relate to the album as a whole."
So if I choose to vote Sloop John B off early because I don't believe it fits thematically with the other Pet Sounds songs (easy BB fascists - this is not my genuine opinion), my vote should be disallowed?
Or if I vote Good Time off early because Brian's early 70s voice just doesn't fit with the other Love You songs, that vote should be voided?
Transcendental Meditation not calm like the other Friends songs but I can't vote for it because I have to imagine the other songs aren't there and just judge it on its own individual merits?
This whole Good Vibrations shouldn't have been voted off so early argument is completely absurd. I say we put it to Pixeltwin as the creator of the weakest link contests whether he wants some sort of fascist set of voting criteria in place or not. If he doesn't, then can we please just allow people to vote however they see fit and except such unsurprising developments as GV's early exit as exciting and unexpected turns that add to the drama and keep the contest interesting?
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #12: Smiley Smile
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Reply #307 on:
December 13, 2013, 03:39:13 AM »
Quote from: buddhahat on December 13, 2013, 03:24:50 AM
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on December 13, 2013, 12:03:18 AM
Quote from: PaedoSanta..heheheh on December 12, 2013, 09:30:01 PM
Quote from: Phoenix on December 12, 2013, 08:47:22 PM
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on December 12, 2013, 03:08:25 PM
How the hell did Good Vibrations get voted out?
Heroes and Villains of course.
Too many super hip hipsters, too hip for their own hip selves.
Or maybe it's because it didn't fit on the album at all, and it would have worked far better on either the original Smile or as a non-album single
This shouldn't be about album structure though. This is looking at the songs on their own. At least that's how I see it, otherwise it's tough to separate one from another.
If it was about assessing songs individually then this should be one giant weakest link thread dedicated to every beach Boys song recorded. Then you could argue that the album context was irrelevant. But in this case we are voting for songs within the context of the album and that context is one factor that some posters occasionally base their votes on. It's really not rocket science.
Even if you disregard the above argument, how would the proposed rules even work?
"Posters may only vote tracks off based on their individual merit and not for how they relate to other tracks within the album or how they relate to the album as a whole."
So if I choose to vote Sloop John B off early because I don't believe it fits thematically with the other Pet Sounds songs (easy BB fascists - this is not my genuine opinion), my vote should be disallowed?
Or if I vote Good Time off early because Brian's early 70s voice just doesn't fit with the other Love You songs, that vote should be voided?
Transcendental Meditation not calm like the other Friends songs but I can't vote for it because I have to imagine the other songs aren't there and just judge it on its own individual merits?
This whole Good Vibrations shouldn't have been voted off so early argument is completely absurd. I say we put it to Pixeltwin as the creator of the weakest link contests whether he wants some sort of fascist set of voting criteria in place or not. If he doesn't, then can we please just allow people to vote however they see fit and except such unsurprising developments as GV's early exit as exciting and unexpected turns that add to the drama and keep the contest interesting?
This. i'm still slightly baffled as to how people aren't understanding.
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buddhahat
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #12: Smiley Smile
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Reply #308 on:
December 13, 2013, 03:54:31 AM »
Quote from: Disney Boy (1985) on December 13, 2013, 03:39:13 AM
Quote from: buddhahat on December 13, 2013, 03:24:50 AM
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on December 13, 2013, 12:03:18 AM
Quote from: PaedoSanta..heheheh on December 12, 2013, 09:30:01 PM
Quote from: Phoenix on December 12, 2013, 08:47:22 PM
Quote from: Rocky Raccoon on December 12, 2013, 03:08:25 PM
How the hell did Good Vibrations get voted out?
Heroes and Villains of course.
Too many super hip hipsters, too hip for their own hip selves.
Or maybe it's because it didn't fit on the album at all, and it would have worked far better on either the original Smile or as a non-album single
This shouldn't be about album structure though. This is looking at the songs on their own. At least that's how I see it, otherwise it's tough to separate one from another.
If it was about assessing songs individually then this should be one giant weakest link thread dedicated to every beach Boys song recorded. Then you could argue that the album context was irrelevant. But in this case we are voting for songs within the context of the album and that context is one factor that some posters occasionally base their votes on. It's really not rocket science.
Even if you disregard the above argument, how would the proposed rules even work?
"Posters may only vote tracks off based on their individual merit and not for how they relate to other tracks within the album or how they relate to the album as a whole."
So if I choose to vote Sloop John B off early because I don't believe it fits thematically with the other Pet Sounds songs (easy BB fascists - this is not my genuine opinion), my vote should be disallowed?
Or if I vote Good Time off early because Brian's early 70s voice just doesn't fit with the other Love You songs, that vote should be voided?
Transcendental Meditation not calm like the other Friends songs but I can't vote for it because I have to imagine the other songs aren't there and just judge it on its own individual merits?
This whole Good Vibrations shouldn't have been voted off so early argument is completely absurd. I say we put it to Pixeltwin as the creator of the weakest link contests whether he wants some sort of fascist set of voting criteria in place or not. If he doesn't, then can we please just allow people to vote however they see fit and except such unsurprising developments as GV's early exit as exciting and unexpected turns that add to the drama and keep the contest interesting?
This. i'm still slightly baffled as to how people aren't understanding.
I think they have their sights set on a best-of-the-weakest-link-rounds-greatest-hits compilation and cannot comprehend why Good Vibrations may now not be on it.
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #12: Smiley Smile
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Since I much prefer the Smile versions and the 2fer version of Heroes and Villains I am going to select..
Windchimes
The ending is so beautiful and trippy. Love it.
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #12: Smiley Smile
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if you Love
H&V
cmon and VOTE. its close.
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #12: Smiley Smile
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heroes and billions
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #12: Smiley Smile
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December 13, 2013, 12:45:59 PM »
I'd like to change my vote from Vegetables to Heroes & Villians
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #12: Smiley Smile
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December 13, 2013, 01:19:36 PM »
Here we are at the end of a tough round of Survivor. Lots of controversy about whether album context is a good qualifier to vote or if a song should be voted on/off by its merit alone. My personal opinion is that either way is fine.
With 8 Votes of people who enjoy their Vegatables....
With 10 votes hanging from out window those are our Wind Chimes.
And the winner of Round #10 of Smiley-smile dot net's BEACH BOYS SURVIVOR IS....
with 11 votes,
HEROES AND VILLAINS!!!!
Round#1 -
Fall Breaks And Back To Winter
November 18
Round#2 -
She's Goin' Bald
November 20
Round#3 -
Gettin' Hungry
November 26
Round#4 -
Whistle In
December 2
Round#5 -
With Me Tonight
December 4
Round#6 -
Wonderful
December 6
Round#7 -
Good Vibrations
December 9
Round#8 -
Little Pad
December 11
Round#9 -
Vegetables
December 13
Round#9 -
Wind Chimes
December 13
Thanks for playing, yet again folks!!!
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #12 WINNER: HEROES AND VILLAINS
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Great result. I coulda voted for this myself!
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Still upset "with me tonight" got eliminated so early
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #12 WINNER: HEROES AND VILLAINS
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Quote from: Help Me, Shady on December 13, 2013, 07:27:00 PM
Still upset "with me tonight" got eliminated so early
Me too.. this album was tough though.
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Beach Boys Survivor #12 WINNER: HEROES AND VILLAINS
Yay!
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Hey Little Tomboy is creepy. Banging women by the pool is fun and conjures up warm summer thoughts a Beach Boys song should.
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