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Topic: Beach Boys Survivor #11 WINNER: SURF'S UP!!!! (Read 55718 times)
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #11: SMiLE
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December 15, 2013, 07:34:38 PM »
Quote from: John Manning on December 15, 2013, 02:51:04 PM
Have decided to come out of retirement.
Surf's Up.
The 1971 version isn't only the definitive version but it's just about the best piece of music ever recorded (IMHO). Carl's vocal is incredible, the song has punch… it's flawless.
The version on TSSi cannot be permitted to win!
I may catch a stoning for this, but I like the TSS version of Surf's Up better.
*I'll now be hiding behind by sofa until it is time to tally*
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Cabin Essence
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #11: SMiLE
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December 15, 2013, 08:46:41 PM »
Quote from: pixletwin on December 15, 2013, 07:34:38 PM
Quote from: John Manning on December 15, 2013, 02:51:04 PM
Have decided to come out of retirement.
Surf's Up.
The 1971 version isn't only the definitive version but it's just about the best piece of music ever recorded (IMHO). Carl's vocal is incredible, the song has punch… it's flawless.
The version on TSSi cannot be permitted to win!
I may catch a stoning for this, but I like the TSS version of Surf's Up better.
*I'll now be hiding behind by sofa until it is time to tally*
Actually, I'm going to have to agree with you on that. Carl doesn't seem to do as good as Brian on that song, and he certainly can't hit the high notes nearly as good
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #11: SMiLE
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Quote from: Les P on December 15, 2013, 05:24:40 PM
Although I also prefer the 20/20 Cabin Essence to the TSS version, I still can't vote it out yet. So...
Wonderful.
I don't know people like this version of Wonderful so much. It sounds even more unfinished to me than the Smiley Smile version.
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #11: SMiLE
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Good Vibrations - the winner of best SMiLE song should be a proper SMiLE song
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Quote from: Phoenix on December 13, 2013, 02:23:41 PM
Heroes And Villains
I don't like the hack job/kitchen sink arrangement it was given.
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December 16, 2013, 03:51:17 AM »
Quote from: pixletwin on December 15, 2013, 07:34:38 PM
Quote from: John Manning on December 15, 2013, 02:51:04 PM
Have decided to come out of retirement.
Surf's Up.
The 1971 version isn't only the definitive version but it's just about the best piece of music ever recorded (IMHO). Carl's vocal is incredible, the song has punch… it's flawless.
The version on TSSi cannot be permitted to win!
I may catch a stoning for this, but I like the TSS version of Surf's Up better.
*I'll now be hiding behind by sofa until it is time to tally*
Peace… come out from behind the sofa… there's nothing there but Daleks and Cybermen!
That's not to say I don't like the TSSi version, only that the 71 version is superior. IMHO.
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December 16, 2013, 04:31:01 AM »
Cabin Essence - for the reasons already highlighted.
Listening to my Unsurpassed Masters Smile CD's yesterday and it struck me just how disappointing Mark and Alan's version of Smile was and, sadly, remains. In hindsight I think it was a mistake to try to join the tracks together and use fly-in's and so forth - the result is just a frustrating listen rather than an enjoyable one. And nothing frustrates me more than Cabin Essence.
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December 16, 2013, 06:35:48 AM »
Quote from: John Manning on December 16, 2013, 03:51:17 AM
Quote from: pixletwin on December 15, 2013, 07:34:38 PM
Quote from: John Manning on December 15, 2013, 02:51:04 PM
Have decided to come out of retirement.
Surf's Up.
The 1971 version isn't only the definitive version but it's just about the best piece of music ever recorded (IMHO). Carl's vocal is incredible, the song has punch… it's flawless.
The version on TSSi cannot be permitted to win!
I may catch a stoning for this, but I like the TSS version of Surf's Up better.
*I'll now be hiding behind by sofa until it is time to tally*
Peace… come out from behind the sofa… there's nothing there but Daleks and Cybermen!
That's not to say I don't like the TSSi version, only that the 71 version is superior. IMHO.
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Quote from: pixletwin on December 16, 2013, 06:35:48 AM
Quote from: John Manning on December 16, 2013, 03:51:17 AM
Quote from: pixletwin on December 15, 2013, 07:34:38 PM
Quote from: John Manning on December 15, 2013, 02:51:04 PM
Have decided to come out of retirement.
Surf's Up.
The 1971 version isn't only the definitive version but it's just about the best piece of music ever recorded (IMHO). Carl's vocal is incredible, the song has punch… it's flawless.
The version on TSSi cannot be permitted to win!
I may catch a stoning for this, but I like the TSS version of Surf's Up better.
*I'll now be hiding behind by sofa until it is time to tally*
Peace… come out from behind the sofa… there's nothing there but Daleks and Cybermen!
That's not to say I don't like the TSSi version, only that the 71 version is superior. IMHO.
Marvellous! But that's the '74 version!
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #11: SMiLE
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Quote from: pixletwin on December 15, 2013, 07:34:38 PM
I may catch a stoning for this, but I like the TSS version of Surf's Up better.
*I'll now be hiding behind by sofa until it is time to tally*
Me too! Not sure why but I prefer Brian's vocal over Carl's and don't miss the moog at all. I think they did a good job with this edit.
It's funny how TSS throws up all sorts of complications regarding edits and mixes etc. If only we were just voting for the definitive versions of these songs.
I have to say I haven't noticed the differences between this and the 20/20 version of Cabinessence although I haven't scrutinized them too closely. I'm sure the detractors are right but I'd rather remain blissfully ignorant.
Another confession: I prefer the Smile H&V over the Smiley one. I love Western Theme. It gives the song an epic, cinematic feel and Linnett's mix is the best and most seamless that I've heard incorporating that section. Not to say it's better than Brian's 45 edit (how could it be?) but I prefer it.
I also prefer Good Vibrations with hum be doh! (sorry brian)
So my vote has to go to
Wonderful
. I prefer the sound overall to the Smiley version but I'm not 100% on those flown in yodels and I also feel it lacks something without that crazy Heroes middle 8. Wonderful really needs something jarring juxtaposed against that beautiful Bach-like melody. Presumably that's what Brian was reaching for with the Rock With Me Henry section.
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #11: SMiLE
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December 16, 2013, 08:34:21 AM »
Quote from: 2 and a half on December 16, 2013, 02:12:46 AM
Good Vibrations - the winner of best SMiLE song should be a proper SMiLE song
Agreed - Good Vibrations
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Wonderful
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December 16, 2013, 11:43:11 AM »
Heros &
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #11: SMiLE
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December 16, 2013, 12:41:28 PM »
Quote from: buddhahat on December 16, 2013, 07:00:00 AM
Quote from: pixletwin on December 15, 2013, 07:34:38 PM
I may catch a stoning for this, but I like the TSS version of Surf's Up better.
*I'll now be hiding behind by sofa until it is time to tally*
Me too! Not sure why but I prefer Brian's vocal over Carl's and don't miss the moog at all. I think they did a good job with this edit.
It's funny how TSS throws up all sorts of complications regarding edits and mixes etc. If only we were just voting for the definitive versions of these songs.
I have to say I haven't noticed the differences between this and the 20/20 version of Cabinessence although I haven't scrutinized them too closely. I'm sure the detractors are right but I'd rather remain blissfully ignorant.
Another confession: I prefer the Smile H&V over the Smiley one. I love Western Theme. It gives the song an epic, cinematic feel and Linnett's mix is the best and most seamless that I've heard incorporating that section. Not to say it's better than Brian's 45 edit (how could it be?) but I prefer it.
I also prefer Good Vibrations with hum be doh! (sorry brian)
So my vote has to go to
Wonderful
. I prefer the sound overall to the Smiley version but I'm not 100% on those flown in yodels and I also feel it lacks something without that crazy Heroes middle 8. Wonderful really needs something jarring juxtaposed against that beautiful Bach-like melody. Presumably that's what Brian was reaching for with the Rock With Me Henry section.
Re Cabin Essence - the difference is that the chorus of the 20/20 version features pristine production and the chorus of the Smile Sessions version features a vast amount of hiss and noise. How could you have not noticed? On the very first listen to SS it made me go 'What the f**k....?'
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Re: Beach Boys Survivor #11: SMiLE
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Good Vibrations - the winner of best SMiLE song should be a proper SMiLE song
Agreed. Though I'm sure GV would have made it on to a hypothetical '67 Smile, it doesn't really fit the vibe of the rest of the material, IMO. I always think of it as its own entity, the bridge between Pet Sounds and Smile. I also don't like the placement of GV at the end of the sequence on the 2011 approximation. It made a little more sense as a show stopper for the concerts, but I'll always think of Surf's Up as the true closing statement for Smile.
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"Good Vibrations"
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Quote from: Disney Boy (1985) on December 16, 2013, 12:41:28 PM
Re Cabin Essence - the difference is that the chorus of the 20/20 version features pristine production and the chorus of the Smile Sessions version features a vast amount of hiss and noise. How could you have not noticed? On the very first listen to SS it made me go 'What the f**k....?'
LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA LA LA!
Thanks for the info Disney Boy but I'd rather not know about these defects. Once discovered they cannot be unheard. More fool for me for bringing it up!
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Good Vibrations - the winner of best SMiLE song should be a proper SMiLE song
Agreed. Though I'm sure GV would have made it on to a hypothetical '67 Smile, it doesn't really fit the vibe of the rest of the material, IMO. I always think of it as its own entity, the bridge between Pet Sounds and Smile. I also don't like the placement of GV at the end of the sequence on the 2011 approximation. It made a little more sense as a show stopper for the concerts, but I'll always think of Surf's Up as the true closing statement for Smile.
Good Vibrations fits for me just fine. Maybe it's things like the reprise in Look that ties it in, I don't know, but the other Smile songs always felt like a perfect extrapolation of all the cool sh*t going on in GV. The only thing that doesn't fit are the lyrics but the boy/girl theme fits with Wonderful ok. It could sit in a cycle of life suite if that were ever Brian's intention.
I agree it doesn't work as a closer. The perfect placement imo would be the opening track right after our Prayer. That or 1st track on side 2 as per Smiley Smile.
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Heroes and Villains.
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Good Vibrations
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We are basing this track listing off of The Smile Sessions disc 1 for our voting.... and away we go!
We came pretty close this week to some blindsiding votes, but in the end One, Won, Wonderful wasn't wonderful enough.
Okay we are back to voting off ONE SONG at a time.
Vote for your
LEAST FAVORITE!!!
Votes will be tallied on December 20th!
Heroes And Villains
Cabin Essence
Surf's Up
Good Vibrations
Round#1 -
Gee
November 18
Round#2 -
I Wanna Be Around / Workshop
November 20
Round#3 -
Look (Song for Children)
November 25
Round#4 -
I'm in Great Shape
December 2
Round#4 -
Love to Say Dada
December 2
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Holidays
December 4
Round#5 -
The Elements: Fire (Mrs. O'Leary's Cow)
December 4
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My Only Sunshine (The Old Master Painter / You Are My Sunshine)
December 6
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Barnyard
December 6
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Do You Like Worms (Roll Plymouth Rock)
December 9
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Child Is Father of the Man
December 9
Round#8 -
Our Prayer
December 11
Round#9 -
Vega-Tables
December 13
Round#10 -
Wind Chimes
December 15
Round#11 -
Wonderful
December 18
My votes goes to... Cabin Essence.
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Round#11 -
Wonderful
December 18
This is cray. The SMiLE version of Wonderful is one of the most beautiful things in the whole catalog. I would have easily voted it as my personal favorite.
Cabin Essence.
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Quote from: pixletwin on December 18, 2013, 11:23:35 AM
Round#11 -
Wonderful
December 18
This is cray. The SMiLE version of Wonderful is one of the most beautiful things in the whole catalog. I would have easily voted it as my personal favorite.
Cabin Essence.
I love it too. Being voted off in round 11 is nothing to be ashamed about. That is a good showing imo.
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Heroes and Villains.
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