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« Reply #600 on: February 06, 2018, 09:40:07 AM »

Speaking of sharks, one of the most famous scenes involving a reference / tribute to another film is probably in Jaws.  As Roy Schieder's character sits on the beach, watching a boy get attacked by a shark, the camera does the push / pull effect that Hitchcock made famous in Vertigo.  Spielberg has said that was a tribute to Hitchcock.
It's interesting example you brought - camera effects re-used by new director in new film (in this case, new in relation to Hitch).

In "Secret Window", Johnny Depp's character's name is Norman. It's less popular name & since it's suspense, I regard it as "Psycho" ref.

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That's the only one I can recall off hand, but I know there are a ton of references / tributes throughout movies that are played for laughs.
But my question is about serious refs/ tributes. Usually used in the same genre film (suspense refs in suspense movie, old horror movie refs in new horror movie...) as director displaying (subtly) he's fan to the past director.

Sorry that was a typo.   I meant to say there are a lot of references / tributes that aren't played for laughs. 

Example, John Carpenter's Halloween was one of the first to show the killer's point of view.  It only took two years for the original Friday the 13th to copy that. 
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« Reply #601 on: February 19, 2018, 04:58:21 PM »

"The Wizard Of Oz" - expected entertaining adventurous family film. Instead, it's disappointingly dull. The "Judy meets stranger" scenes get by rather slowly. Skipped thru the film till its ending which could be the best thing. "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" is nice song sung very well by young Judy Garland. At the same time, it lacks sth. to dub it "great" imo.

I decided to see "The Wizard" thinking it could be even better than amazing, riveting tale "Alice In Wonderland" (both Disney cartoon & 1933 black & white movie featuring loveliest, adorable Alice & young Cary Grant & Gary Cooper). But, it's 2/5 - great costumes, some good dialog lines, few interesting characters, rare cool visual effects.
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« Reply #602 on: February 20, 2018, 07:17:02 AM »

"The Wizard Of Oz" - expected entertaining adventurous family film. Instead, it's disappointingly dull. The "Judy meets stranger" scenes get by rather slowly. Skipped thru the film till its ending which could be the best thing. "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" is nice song sung very well by young Judy Garland. At the same time, it lacks sth. to dub it "great" imo.

I decided to see "The Wizard" thinking it could be even better than amazing, riveting tale "Alice In Wonderland" (both Disney cartoon & 1933 black & white movie featuring loveliest, adorable Alice & young Cary Grant & Gary Cooper). But, it's 2/5 - great costumes, some good dialog lines, few interesting characters, rare cool visual effects.

Have you seen the "sequel" to Wizard of Oz, Return to Oz (1985)? 

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« Reply #603 on: February 20, 2018, 03:50:24 PM »

We started watching "Transparent," and it's really enjoyable. I like Jeffrey Tambor quite a bit, I think he's a hilarious actor. (Arrested Development is one of my favorite shows ever.) It also raises plenty of little things to discuss around the house. Granted, I suspect the show's future is in doubt considering Tambor was accused of some sordid behavior as a part of the #MeToo wave, but we'll just have to see how that all works out. Anyway, I've still got three and a half seasons to go before I'm caught up.
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« Reply #604 on: February 20, 2018, 04:09:55 PM »

"The Wizard Of Oz" - expected entertaining adventurous family film. Instead, it's disappointingly dull. The "Judy meets stranger" scenes get by rather slowly. Skipped thru the film till its ending which could be the best thing. "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" is nice song sung very well by young Judy Garland. At the same time, it lacks sth. to dub it "great" imo
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Wow, sorry you think this movie is dull.
It's such an iconic movie in America. Millions of us grew up looking forward to its being on TV every year.
I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too; Follow the yellow brick road; Lions and tigers and bears, oh my! There's no place like home...
The songs by the Scarecrow, Tin Man and Cowardly Lion bring a smile and never grow old to me.
Judy Garland is amazing. And Toto too!
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« Reply #605 on: February 20, 2018, 04:58:20 PM »

We started watching "Transparent," and it's really enjoyable. I like Jeffrey Tambor quite a bit, I think he's a hilarious actor. (Arrested Development is one of my favorite shows ever.) It also raises plenty of little things to discuss around the house. Granted, I suspect the show's future is in doubt considering Tambor was accused of some sordid behavior as a part of the #MeToo wave, but we'll just have to see how that all works out. Anyway, I've still got three and a half seasons to go before I'm caught up.

As a huge fan of Arrested Developent myself, I just looked up if that sexual harassment claim was going to interfere with the new season...looks like it wonít. But Amazon officially stated that Tambor will not be back for another season of Transparent.
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« Reply #606 on: February 20, 2018, 05:06:39 PM »

"The Wizard Of Oz" - expected entertaining adventurous family film. Instead, it's disappointingly dull. The "Judy meets stranger" scenes get by rather slowly. Skipped thru the film till its ending which could be the best thing. "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" is nice song sung very well by young Judy Garland. At the same time, it lacks sth. to dub it "great" imo
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Wow, sorry you think this movie is dull.
It's such an iconic movie in America. Millions of us grew up looking forward to its being on TV every year.
I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too; Follow the yellow brick road; Lions and tigers and bears, oh my! There's no place like home...
The songs by the Scarecrow, Tin Man and Cowardly Lion bring a smile and never grow old to me.
Judy Garland is amazing. And Toto too!

The Wizard of Oz is one of the creepiest/scariest movies Iíve ever seen. Itís actually one of my first memories seeing that on television and it had me creeped out for weeks. Those flying monkeys and that spooky Wizard...all of it just sent shivers down my spine. The untrue rumors I heard later of a munchkin killing himself on camera during filming didnít help either. Iíll still get in a mood if I see part of it in passing. I remember a friend saying that you can play Pink Floydís DSOTM alongside this movie and it fits perfectly, I never wanted to try it myself.

That being said, it is totally a staple in American cinema culture. Somewhere Over The Rainbow is one of the most beautiful songs ever, and Iíll listen to that occasionally. Also Toto is the cutest doggo.
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« Reply #607 on: February 20, 2018, 07:20:12 PM »

I must say, the scene where Dorothy is a prisoner, slowly watching the sands of the hourglass, is very unsettling. Dorothy/Judy Garland looks truly terrified. I sometimes wonder if the director said something to make her upset.
I have read that this was done to child actors such as Jackie Coogan, who co-starred in Chaplin's The Kid. To make him cry they'd say stuff like his Mother was in the hospital or his dog died. Truly vile stuff.
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« Reply #608 on: February 20, 2018, 07:49:13 PM »

Thatís terrible! I briefly read some piece by Uma Thurman about how Quentin Tarantino basically ruined her acting career by forcing her to do some stunt and her back and neck havenít been right since. And sadly apparently the shot where she was injured doesnít even really show her. Hollywood does some cruel things to actors, actresses. I wonder if thatís why Van Dyke Parks got out of the movie business early on...
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« Reply #609 on: February 21, 2018, 05:34:51 AM »

"The Wizard Of Oz" - expected entertaining adventurous family film. Instead, it's disappointingly dull. The "Judy meets stranger" scenes get by rather slowly. Skipped thru the film till its ending which could be the best thing. "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" is nice song sung very well by young Judy Garland. At the same time, it lacks sth. to dub it "great" imo
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Wow, sorry you think this movie is dull.
It's such an iconic movie in America. Millions of us grew up looking forward to its being on TV every year.
I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too; Follow the yellow brick road; Lions and tigers and bears, oh my! There's no place like home...
The songs by the Scarecrow, Tin Man and Cowardly Lion bring a smile and never grow old to me.
Judy Garland is amazing. And Toto too!

The Wizard of Oz is one of the creepiest/scariest movies Iíve ever seen. Itís actually one of my first memories seeing that on television and it had me creeped out for weeks. Those flying monkeys and that spooky Wizard...all of it just sent shivers down my spine. The untrue rumors I heard later of a munchkin killing himself on camera during filming didnít help either. Iíll still get in a mood if I see part of it in passing. I remember a friend saying that you can play Pink Floydís DSOTM alongside this movie and it fits perfectly, I never wanted to try it myself.

That being said, it is totally a staple in American cinema culture. Somewhere Over The Rainbow is one of the most beautiful songs ever, and Iíll listen to that occasionally. Also Toto is the cutest doggo.

I tried the Dark Side of the Moon thing once.  There were five or six instances where the audio and video seemed to sync up, but I chalk it up to mere coincidence. 

But, anything that encourages people to listen to Pink Floyd or watch The Wizard of Oz is OK by me. 
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« Reply #610 on: February 21, 2018, 05:47:14 AM »

Reminds me of that rumor that Pink Floyd was originally supposed to do the music for Ď2001 A Space Odysseyí, but Kubrick decided he didnít want the soundtrack to be dated by a modern sound, so he instead chose classical works for the music. Apparently all rumor though. Still, besides the original soundtrack I canít think of a more fitting band to backdrop music on such a movie as that.
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« Reply #611 on: February 21, 2018, 05:53:55 AM »

Reminds me of that rumor that Pink Floyd was originally supposed to do the music for Ď2001 A Space Odysseyí, but Kubrick decided he didnít want the soundtrack to be dated by a modern sound, so he instead chose classical works for the music. Apparently all rumor though. Still, besides the original soundtrack I canít think of a more fitting band to backdrop music on such a movie as that.

There is a true story about 2001 and Floyd.  When Roger Waters recorded his Amused to Death album, he wanted to use some of HAL's dialog on the song "Perfect Sense Part 1."  But Kublick wouldn't allow it, so Waters included a backwards message with a swipe at Kubrick. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx-nmRF8_AA

However, when Waters went on tour in 1999-2000, he used the HAL dialog. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j4oPSKsjsY
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« Reply #612 on: February 21, 2018, 06:09:03 AM »

Okay thatís awesome.
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« Reply #613 on: February 21, 2018, 07:43:02 AM »

Okay thatís awesome.

I'm not sure if Roger got the clearance to use that dialog by 1999.  Or, knowing Roger, he just didn't care, and figured it was fair game on a live stage, and wouldn't be noticed of a relatively low profile live release.
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« Reply #614 on: February 24, 2018, 06:27:28 PM »

Have you seen the "sequel" to Wizard of Oz, Return to Oz (1985)?
Negative. Is it better?
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« Reply #615 on: February 24, 2018, 07:17:00 PM »

Have you seen the "sequel" to Wizard of Oz, Return to Oz (1985)?
Negative. Is it better?

Personally, I dont think its better, but Im a fan of the original

But, Return to Oz has a completely different tone, so you might like it.  Its a much darker movie and its not a musical.   I always wondered why my folks didnt take me to see it in theaters as I was really into the original, but years later when I saw it, I realized its really not a movie for a 5 year old.

In 2013, Sam Raimi directed a prequel called Oz the Great and Powerful (he claims its not a prequel, but I cant see how it isnt) starring James Franco as the wizard when he first arrives in Oz.  It was pretty good.  There was talk of Disney using the movie to launch a new Oz franchise, but it seems nothing came of that. 
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« Reply #616 on: February 24, 2018, 07:44:00 PM »

2KDS: By way you describe, the sequel is MUCH cooler. 3D Not that I dislike musicals.

Can't stand Franco but you say it's good, maybe I'll check it.

Which animated feature film do you like? Cartoon made around animated series, comic books ("Tom & Jerry", "Sponge Bob", "Batman"...) excepted. The question is about original characters & script.
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« Reply #617 on: February 25, 2018, 12:28:36 AM »

2KDS: By way you describe, the sequel is MUCH cooler. 3D Not that I dislike musicals.

Can't stand Franco but you say it's good, maybe I'll check it.

Which animated feature film do you like? Cartoon made around animated series, comic books ("Tom & Jerry", "Sponge Bob", "Batman"...) excepted. The question is about original characters & script.

Shrek is a very good animated movie.  The second one was very good too.   

Most other ones I think of are adaptations.
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« Reply #618 on: February 25, 2018, 12:41:31 AM »

Shrek is a very good animated movie.  The second one was very good too.   

Most other ones I think of are adaptations.
What's about "Shrek" that makes you like it?

Next question - you're big metal band fan - what song did you especially enjoy to hear & didn't even expect it being used in specific film/ sequence?
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« Reply #619 on: February 25, 2018, 01:02:21 AM »

Shrek is a very good animated movie.  The second one was very good too.   

Most other ones I think of are adaptations.
What's about "Shrek" that makes you like it?

Next question - you're big metal band fan - what song did you especially enjoy to hear & didn't even expect it being used in specific film/ sequence?

I like how Shrek took the storybook / fairy tale and threw some irreverant humor at it.

One of the most unexpected uses of a metal song was King Diamond's Welcome Home when Jay and Silent Bob make their first appearance in Clerks II. 

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« Reply #620 on: February 25, 2018, 07:27:22 AM »

What is unexpected about its use in "Clerks II"? I didn't see film with such title but, is it exactly about clerks to make metal song bizarre inclusion, as in clean-cut nerdy office workers & hairy loud belters?

Which song do you think could be perfect in many films but it strikes you that you don't hear anywhere, not even in TV shows?
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« Reply #621 on: February 25, 2018, 07:57:51 AM »

What is unexpected about its use in "Clerks II"? I didn't see film with such title but, is it exactly about clerks to make metal song bizarre inclusion, as in clean-cut nerdy office workers & hairy loud belters?

Which song do you think could be perfect in many films but it strikes you that you don't hear anywhere, not even in TV shows?

Whats odd about the use of a King Diamond song is that his music is rarely used in mainstream media. 

The Blue Oyster Cult song Dancin in the Ruins would have been a perfect montage song for an 80s movie. 
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« Reply #622 on: February 25, 2018, 08:17:14 AM »

Can you define "montage song"?

Can you tell favorite example "character sings/ hums famous song in the movie scene" (BBs/ "Full House"/ John Stamos doesn't count)?
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« Reply #623 on: February 25, 2018, 08:51:21 AM »

Can you define "montage song"?

Can you tell favorite example "character sings/ hums famous song in the movie scene" (BBs/ "Full House"/ John Stamos doesn't count)?

Taking a que from the training scene in Rocky, the montage became a staple of 80s movies.   Its basically a 3-5 minute sequence used to move the story along set to music.   Example, Jimmy Buffett's Turning Around in Summer Rental.   

Favorite example of characters singing a song.  Easy.  Bohemian Rhapsody in Wayne's World.   
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« Reply #624 on: February 25, 2018, 08:59:30 AM »

Just to add a bit to KDSís explanation, the visuals in a montage tend to be brief snippets edited together beneath the music rather than using dialogue, and it is basically a way to hasten some point from A to B or pass the time. So in a Rocky movie, it could be numerous training moments (sit ups, weight lifting, running, push ups, more weight lifting), each only a few seconds, but getting across the point: Rocky is dedicated to getting into shape for the big fight. A song is often used for the audio of such a ďmontage.Ē

Other typical montage scenes might show a child growing up, someoneís workday routine, a coupleís relationship growing through numerous dates, etc.
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