Blondie Chaplin to Guest with BW on Some Dates

[Jonathan Blum]

Unlikely, given Brian's considerably larger overheads, but assuming they did, what about the equal sums due to Mike & Carl's estate ?  As far as I'm aware, no-one in a position to do so has contested the oft-expressed opinion that Brian's tours routinely loose money.

I thought the point was that they lost money for the venues, and the other people at that end of the promotion chain -- not for the folks taking 20% of the gate...

Cheers,
Jon Blum

[Wirestone]

IIRC, Brian's tours in the U.S. have often lost money, but his overseas gigs have been profitable. One of the reasons he plays so much in Europe,

[SurfRiderHawaii]

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-brian-wilson-jeff-beck-blondie-chaplin-tour-album-20130906,0,927430.story

Back to Blondie, since that's what this thread was about 8 pages ago...

apparently he sang on a new Brian song called "He Come Down."  That's a pretty interesting title, no?

99% sure it is a cover of the Carl & The Passions song.

Isn't the CATP HCD mostly a Mike tune which Brian had no hand in writing? Highly unlikely he would cover a Mike tune but weird he would do a new song with that title. Got me scratching my head.

[bgas]

IIRC, Brian's tours in the U.S. have often lost money, but his overseas gigs have been profitable. One of the reasons he plays so much in Europe,

  I find this particular point almost laughable. Time and again it's been said that Brian's US tours lose money. Really?  Why then does he do them? I have serious doubts that his managers/melinda/whomever is going to agree to do shows so that Brian can whistle his fortune away. He loves his fans that much? If that's the case, why not simply issue all his unreleased stuff that everyone wants to hear? 
 
 I think it's very similar to many other businesses. They "expect" to make some amount of profit, but they don't get to that level, so , "we're losing money". Not that they really have lost $$, just that they haven't made as much as they want/had hoped.
  If Brian is continually losing money touring, let's see the books; if there's really the loss, I'd venture someone on the inside is helping themselves to some of the gross, reducing the net. 

[chrs_mrgn]

So how does everyone feel about Blondie being on these few dates?

What songs can you imagine him taking lead on that would be in the 'typical' BW setlist?
Think they will add any songs just for him?

Well "Sail On Sailor" is the obvious one, I think it's also very plausible they would add "Wild Honey" and "Funky Pretty" as well.  Oh and maybe he'd duet with Brian on "Marcella," that would be pretty awesome.  And then whatever he did on the new album.

is this Brian's way of getting back at Mike and Bruce for debuting Wild Honey this summer? 

Kidding of course!!!

  of course. The Team Mike Vs. Team Brian Conspiracy!

[Wirestone]

Team BW has cut costs before -- ask Jim Hines and Bob Lizik and Taylor Mills. Not to mention their attempt to do a summer tour with a cut down backing band.

So money clearly presents challenges to the outfit at times. I've always doubted they lose much money -- but I can imagine that some tours only broke oven and a few fell short. Some did well -- I'd bet the Smile U.S. Dates did well, for example.

[Pretty Funky]

Thats the thing. Sure a tour may break even or lose money but as was the case with SMiLE, its raising the album profile which hopefully means more sales.

[Andrew G. Doe]

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-brian-wilson-jeff-beck-blondie-chaplin-tour-album-20130906,0,927430.story

Back to Blondie, since that's what this thread was about 8 pages ago...

apparently he sang on a new Brian song called "He Come Down."  That's a pretty interesting title, no?

99% sure it is a cover of the Carl & The Passions song.

Isn't the CATP HCD mostly a Mike tune which Brian had no hand in writing? Highly unlikely he would cover a Mike tune but weird he would do a new song with that title. Got me scratching my head.

Brian not only co-wrote it, he also plays and sings on it. I'm not saying this merely to be argumentative: someone I trust implicitly told me a few years ago.

[Jim V.]

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-brian-wilson-jeff-beck-blondie-chaplin-tour-album-20130906,0,927430.story

Back to Blondie, since that's what this thread was about 8 pages ago...

apparently he sang on a new Brian song called "He Come Down."  That's a pretty interesting title, no?

99% sure it is a cover of the Carl & The Passions song.

Isn't the CATP HCD mostly a Mike tune which Brian had no hand in writing? Highly unlikely he would cover a Mike tune but weird he would do a new song with that title. Got me scratching my head.

Brian not only co-wrote it, he also plays and sings on it. I'm not saying this merely to be argumentative: someone I trust implicitly told me a few years ago.

Yeah it does seem like when people are talking about the "Brian songs" from Carl and the Passions, they only think of "Mess Of Help" and "Marcella" but it is indeed true that "He Come Down" was a lot more of a Brian song than people gave it credit.

I would be intrigued if this was actually on Brian's new album. I highly doubt it's gonna be filled with remakes of songs from back in the day, so one wouldn't hurt. Especially if it involves Blondie.

[Nicko1234]

Thats the thing. Sure a tour may break even or lose money but as was the case with SMiLE, its raising the album profile which hopefully means more sales.

Exactly.

Brian's touring has been about promoting Brian as a solo act and about getting publicity for his albums.

They may also think it's good for him.

[Mike's Beard]

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-brian-wilson-jeff-beck-blondie-chaplin-tour-album-20130906,0,927430.story

Back to Blondie, since that's what this thread was about 8 pages ago...

apparently he sang on a new Brian song called "He Come Down."  That's a pretty interesting title, no?

99% sure it is a cover of the Carl & The Passions song.

Isn't the CATP HCD mostly a Mike tune which Brian had no hand in writing? Highly unlikely he would cover a Mike tune but weird he would do a new song with that title. Got me scratching my head.

I always figured that Mike and Al wrote the TM lyrics while Brian was mostly responsible for the music and the vocal arrangements.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-brian-wilson-jeff-beck-blondie-chaplin-tour-album-20130906,0,927430.story

Back to Blondie, since that's what this thread was about 8 pages ago...

apparently he sang on a new Brian song called "He Come Down."  That's a pretty interesting title, no?

99% sure it is a cover of the Carl & The Passions song.

Isn't the CATP HCD mostly a Mike tune which Brian had no hand in writing? Highly unlikely he would cover a Mike tune but weird he would do a new song with that title. Got me scratching my head.

I always figured that Mike and Al wrote the TM lyrics while Brian was mostly responsible for the music and the vocal arrangements.

I see it's credited to Mike Love/Chaplin/Al Jardine/C. Wilson. Never realized Blondie co-wrote HCD. Stiil scratching my head on this one for Brian. A leftover from Radio possibly?

[Nicko1234]

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-brian-wilson-jeff-beck-blondie-chaplin-tour-album-20130906,0,927430.story

Back to Blondie, since that's what this thread was about 8 pages ago...

apparently he sang on a new Brian song called "He Come Down."  That's a pretty interesting title, no?

99% sure it is a cover of the Carl & The Passions song.

Isn't the CATP HCD mostly a Mike tune which Brian had no hand in writing? Highly unlikely he would cover a Mike tune but weird he would do a new song with that title. Got me scratching my head.

I always figured that Mike and Al wrote the TM lyrics while Brian was mostly responsible for the music and the vocal arrangements.

I see it's credited to Mike Love/Chaplin/Al Jardine/C. Wilson. Never realized Blondie co-wrote HCD. Stiil scratching my head on this one for Brian. A leftover from Radio possibly?

Where has it been credited like that?

[SurfRiderHawaii]

Wiki. Bad research. Though Blondie has a a little solo thing there I don't know where that credit came from.

Doesn't match the twofer liner notes I see.  Gonna pull out my LP in the am.

EDIT: I looked up Blondie's credits on BMI. He isn't officially credited. I haven't a clue if he came up with his little vocal section.

[Howie Edelson]

From my syndicated feed...

'70s BEACH BOY BLONDIE CHAPLIN BACK WITH BRIAN WILSON
By Howie Edelson

Blondie Chaplin -- the legendary voice of the Beach Boys' classic 1973 hit, "Sail On Sailor" -- has signed on as a special guest for five shows on this fall's Brian Wilson tour with fellow Beach Boys co-founders Al Jardine and David Marks, along with guitar legend Jeff Beck.

In the statement announcing his participation on the upcoming tour, Brian Wilson said: "Blondie was one of my favorite singers in the '70s. He blew my mind with 'Sail On Sailor' and he also sang on a song called 'Funky Pretty,' on the Beach Boys' Holland album. Until two weeks ago, I hadn't seen him since 1974. It was great to see him again. He came into the studio and sang on one of my new tracks called 'He Come Down' -- and he sang it great. I'm stoked that he'll be performing at a few of our shows."

Chaplin, who along with his fellow South African bandmate in the Flame, drummer Ricky Fataar, joined the Beach Boys in 1971 after Carl Wilson produced a 1970 cult classic album for the group. Throughout 1972 and 1973, Chaplin and Fataar helped redefine the Beach Boys' live act, which saw the band performing in the arena circuit by the time of Chaplin's late-1973 exit. Chaplin contributed material to 1972's Carl And The Passions - "So Tough" and the groundbreaking 1973 Holland collection. Chaplin is also featured extensively on 1973's The Beach Boys In Concert album. After leaving the group, Chaplin performed with Rick Danko, the Band, Mick Taylor, and was part of the 20th Anniversary Celebration Of The Byrds.

Between 1997 and 2007, he was a part of the Rolling Stones' studio and touring ensemble, singing backup and playing guitar. He's been featured on the Stones' albums, Bridges To Babylon, No Security, Live Licks, A Bigger Bang, Shine A Light, and Light The Fuse. Most recently he's been playing dates with Joe Bonassamo.

On August 23rd, Blondie Chaplin joined Brian Wilson and Al Jardine in the studio to lay down tracks for his first Beach Boys-related session in over 40 years. Chaplin told us it was great to reconnect with Al Jardine: "He was so happy that it almost unnerved me, 'cause I haven't seen him for a long time. But he was in New York, and a friend of mine, who plays bass -- Keith Lentin at the Guitar Center -- and he met him there and he said, 'Hey, give love to Blondie and tell him to give me a call,' and blah, blah, blah. So, he was very excited. When I saw him at the session, he gave me a real big hug and was very, very happy to have me sing. So, they were very, very happy with that."

Although the session was co-produced with Wilson's collaborator, Joe Thomas -- who helped spearhead the Beach Boys' 2012 Top Three album, That's Why God Made The Radio -- Chaplin says that like the old days, he took his direction directly from Wilson: "Brian's the one who was behind the board, telling me, y'know, 'Do this again,' 'This is a little flat,' or whatever. But I'm pretty good with doing that stuff, so it wasn't so much direction. But, yeah, he was behind the board orchestrating, y'know, how many voices I should do on each track."

We asked Blondie to give a bit of detail in what exactly Wilson had him singing on the track: "They were vocal lines and they might be thinking about me doing a lead at some point in the future on this same song, but we'll see. That may be I'm jumping the gun -- at least, that's what Joe (Thomas) keeps talking about."

UPDATED: Brian Wilson, Al Jardine, & David Marks with Jeff Beck tour dates (subject to change):
September 27 - Hollywood, FL - Hard Rock Live (with Blondie Chaplin)
September 28 - Clearwater, FL - Ruth Eckerd Hall
October 1 - Houston, TX - Bayou Music Center
October 3 - Saint Augustine, FL - St. Augustine Amphitheatre
October 4 - Atlanta, GA - Chastain Park Amphitheatre
October 5 - Washington, DC - Warner Theatre
October 6 - Bethlehem, PA - Sands Bethlehem Event Center
October 8 - Albany, NY - Palace Theatre
October 9 - Boston, MA - Wang Theatre - Citi Performing Arts Center
October 11 - Wallingford, CT - Toyota Presents The Oakdale Theatre
October 12 - Westbury, NY - NYCB Theatre At Westbury
October 13 - Upper Darby, PA - Tower Theatre
October 15 - New York, NY - Beacon Theatre (with Blondie Chaplin)
October 16 - Montclair, NJ - The Wellmont Theater
October 18 - Las Vegas, NV - Pearl Concert Theater (with Blondie Chaplin)
October 20 - Los Angeles, CA - Greek Theatre (with Blondie Chaplin)
October 22 - Oakland, CA - Paramount Theatre (with Blondie Chaplin)
October 25 - Detroit, MI - Fox Theatre
October 26 - Toronto, ON - Sony Centre For The Performing Arts
October 27 - Akron, OH - E.J. Thomas Hall
October 30 - Milwaukee, WI - Riverside Theatre

[Rocker]

So how does everyone feel about Blondie being on these few dates?

What songs can you imagine him taking lead on that would be in the 'typical' BW setlist?
Think they will add any songs just for him?

Well "Sail On Sailor" is the obvious one, I think it's also very plausible they would add "Wild Honey" and "Funky Pretty" as well.  Oh and maybe he'd duet with Brian on "Marcella," that would be pretty awesome.  And then whatever he did on the new album.

is this Brian's way of getting back at Mike and Bruce for debuting Wild Honey this summer? 

Kidding of course!!!

You know, I could imagine that they talked about doing "Wild honey" on last year's Beach Boys tour but it didn't happen (there certainly were other songs discussed that didn't make the list). So maybe that's where the idea came from (if Brian, Al, David and Blondie will do WH that is of course)

[Mikie]

It's kinda ironic, because back when Blondie recorded with The Boys, Brian was not in control and nowhere near the board. Now he is. But it sounds like Joe Thomas has his finger on the pulse. Hopefully he's just a middle man expressing Brian's wishes and not calling all the shots (i.e. who's gonna do lead vocals on the next song, etc.)

[Mike's Beard]

Brian's been saying for years he wants to make a rock and roll record. With Blondie and Jeff Beck around, now's the time to do so. Of course Brian's definition of rock may differ from mine somewhat. I'd like to hear Brian's sound with a bit more of a heavy groove to it - too much of his stuff from the last decade has been warmed over shite to these ears.

[Rocky Raccoon]

Wiki. Bad research. Though Blondie has a a little solo thing there I don't know where that credit came from.

Doesn't match the twofer liner notes I see.  Gonna pull out my LP in the am.

EDIT: I looked up Blondie's credits on BMI. He isn't officially credited. I haven't a clue if he came up with his little vocal section.

Wikipedia doesn't credit him as a co-writer, it credits him as a lead vocalist.

[Wirestone]

http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&keyID=535274&ShowNbr=0&ShowSeqNbr=0&querytype=WorkID

HE COME DOWN (Legal Title)
BMI Work #535274
Songwriter/Composer   Current Affiliation   CAE/IPI #
JARDINE ALAN   BMI   34498175
LOVE MICHAEL EDWARD   BMI   18590772
WILSON BRIAN DOUGLAS   BMI   33029811
 
Publishers
BROTHER PUBLISHING COMPANY   BMI   33957469

[SurfRiderHawaii]

I can't believe anyone would seriously try to use Wikipedia for songwriting credits. Or as a direct source of anything.

http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&keyID=535274&ShowNbr=0&ShowSeqNbr=0&querytype=WorkID

HE COME DOWN (Legal Title)
BMI Work #535274
Songwriter/Composer   Current Affiliation   CAE/IPI #
JARDINE ALAN   BMI   34498175
LOVE MICHAEL EDWARD   BMI   18590772
WILSON BRIAN DOUGLAS   BMI   33029811
 
Publishers
BROTHER PUBLISHING COMPANY   BMI   33957469

Ha, ha. You are right, I didn't.  Seriously, I said I screwed  up. That's what I get for doing a search at 3 am.
But Wirestone, I will say the same thing next time you screw up, or libel somebody. And like you never used Wiki. Which, by the way, wasn't even wrong. I just misread it.

Back  on thread, I am still surprised Brian is redoing a mostly Mike TM song.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Back  on thread, I am still surprised Brian is redoing a mostly Miie TM song.

So it's definitely the same song as the CATP track ?

[ontor pertawst]

Yeah, it does seem a weird move to do a cover of that. Not that our favorite pop floptops aren't known for totally weird moves or anything! But maybe it's just some moany gospel thing with the same title? Or a song about low serotonin levels and the need to relax on the couch watching PBS.

Somebody ask Blondie!

 Maybe it's part of a new suite of songs that includes such new classics as "Good Vibrations," a song about really exceptional forced vibration, as when a time-varying disturbance (load, displacement or velocity) is applied to a mechanical system.

 "Sail On, Sailor" -- which touchingly recounts the voyage of Thor Heyerdahl on the Kon-Tiki... finally demonstrating to all the naysayers that it was possible for a primitive raft to sail the Pacific. Chaplin shines on the verse about the raft smashing into the reef at Raroia in the Tuamotu Islands.

"Don't Back Down" -- a treatise on the time-tested "Mutually Assured Destruction" doctrine. Al Jardine is particularly outstanding on this track, never more youthful sounding that when he squeals about the importance of deterrence in an era of strategic nuclear equivalence.

Yeah. That's the ticket.

Maybe they just do the chorus and rewritten verses? I mean, Jesus - I can't see these lyrics on a Brian Wilson album in 2014:

Maharishi teaches us to meditate
To dive deep within come out and radiate
All of the saints through all creation
Sing the same song of revelation

or

Krishna said a long time ago
To "Let the arrow fly first without the bow"
Guru Dev's wisdom is just the thing...
To save mankind from all this suffering
Maharishi gives a lift to every man's bible
Bringin' us the news of the new revival

I mean... I doubt Al would have that much pull even if he was really keen on it and mentioned doing a new version every single time he went down to the studio. It'd be eyes closed, arm folding time. Not without delousing and deTMing those lyrics.

[Emdeeh]

Brian Wilson said: "Blondie was one of my favorite singers in the '70s. He blew my mind with 'Sail On Sailor' and he also sang on a song called 'Funky Pretty,' on the Beach Boys' Holland album. Until two weeks ago, I hadn't seen him since 1974. It was great to see him again...."

Brian may not remember it, but he's seen Blondie at least once since 1974. They both performed at the 2000 Carl Wilson Walk Against Cancer.

http://www.carlwilsonfoundation.org/walk00/walk00d.htm
http://www.carlwilsonfoundation.org/walk00/walk00e.htm

[SurfRiderHawaii]

Back  on thread, I am still surprised Brian is redoing a mostly Miie TM song.

So it's definitely the same song as the CATP track ?

Obviously, scratching my head again, I do not know.  Again, it would be weird if it was. It would be weird if it had the same title but different tune.

But you are the self proclaimed BB insider. For once, give us some news we don't know and not your usual veiled excuse for being out of the loop (my sources have told me but I can reveal blah blah). Back off boogaloo. Give us something tasty.