Mastering Error on MIC Disc 3 ?

[Fire Wind]

My disc 3, 320 kbps from a blog, then burned to disc, also does this 2 second thing.  I rather like it.

[Disney Boy (1985)]

Yeah i noticed this instantly. Do It Again begins with the echo from the end of Murray The K. All songs begin at 0:02. And Surf's Up does end abruptly.
Nippy

Noticed this exact same thing with Do It Again on Spotify Netherlands so presumably their source has the same fault. Have to be honest, this problem might potentially put me off ordering the set, unless it's only on some copies in which case I may take a gamble.

You're going to not order a Beach Boys box set featuring Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again, the California Feelin' demo, etc. because one of the six CD's has a two second pause at the start of each track?

[The Shift]

Yeah i noticed this instantly. Do It Again begins with the echo from the end of Murray The K. All songs begin at 0:02. And Surf's Up does end abruptly.
Nippy

Noticed this exact same thing with Do It Again on Spotify Netherlands so presumably their source has the same fault. Have to be honest, this problem might potentially put me off ordering the set, unless it's only on some copies in which case I may take a gamble.

HAs anyone raised this with the record company?  They ought to be offering replacements… 

If I get chance today (heavy workload) I'll start a look-into, if no-one else already has.

[buddhahat]

Yeah i noticed this instantly. Do It Again begins with the echo from the end of Murray The K. All songs begin at 0:02. And Surf's Up does end abruptly.
Nippy

Noticed this exact same thing with Do It Again on Spotify Netherlands so presumably their source has the same fault. Have to be honest, this problem might potentially put me off ordering the set, unless it's only on some copies in which case I may take a gamble.

You're going to not order a Beach Boys box set featuring Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again, the California Feelin' demo, etc. because one of the six CD's has a two second pause at the start of each track?

I have a premium spotify account so I can listen to the music as much as I need (once effin spotify UK actually permits me to), plus I don't currently have a cd player hooked up so the appeal of the cds is minimal at the moment. The attraction for me would be the ability to put the mp3s into my uber BB playlist and now potentially I'd have to edit the start of some such as Do It Again to play properly. It just lessens the appeal of getting the actual cds for me.  If it was a vinyl set it would be a no brainer.

Of course the packaging and book are worthwhile so I'll probably get it, but might wait to see if there are sets without the mastering issue before committing.

[Michael Edwards Love]

My copy (purchased from Amazon) has the 2-second issue on Disc 3 as described. I noticed it mostly because the very beginning of "Do It Again," when I ripped it for iTunes, begins with the very end of the fade of the previous track. Then I noticed that the songs on the disc all seem to start at the 0:01 or 0:02 mark.

Checked my copy of disc 3.  Same as above.  Most disappointing thing to me is the poor intro to "Do It Again," since this is the only place we can get this particular cut.  I had to crank the volume way up to notice the "Surf's Up" ending but I've got that track multiple times over.

I would think that with a price point of $130+ for 6 discs that they might work properly.

[37!ws]

I sent a message to the official Beach Boys FB group about it...

[buddhahat]

Those that are saying they don't have the issue - does Do It Again begin with the faint echo of the previous track? Might be a better way of telling if the fault is on every copy or not as my guess is some may not notice if the tag to SU is clipped a millisecond before the end.

[Carls Beard]

I also have the cut-out on the Fade of Surf's Up. Also on Sound Of Free the song skips at the 1:40 mark. Anyone else have this problem?

[The Shift]

Sent a message to UM and received this back:

Hi John,
Thank you for your email regarding 'Made In California'.
I am currently waiting on feedback from our eCommerce team with an update into this issue and the moment I have a response, I will be sure to contact you. I anticipate that this issue will be resolved within 2 working days. However, if you require an update in the meantime, please feel free to contact me and it will be my pleasure to assist you further.
John, thank you and apologies for any inconvenience caused.
Kind regards,

Universal Music Direct Support Team


Will keep you posted…

[mikeddonn]

I have the same problem at the start of "Do It Again".  I also had a problem getting Discs 4 and 5 to load up in my CD player last night.  They loaded up on my PC, but then after I ripped them when I played back some of the songs (e.g., "Only With You" live) they were skipping!  Today I have been able to get them to load up so here's hoping they are ok.  My set only arrived yesterday from Amazon so I was getting ready to send it back.  I've just listened to "Sound of Free" which played fine.

Mike.

[buddhahat]

I have a hunch this two second thing is on every copy. It's certainly on every rip and stream I've heard so far. Can anyone definitely confirm that their disc 3 does not have two seconds of silence before each track with Do It Again beginning with the echo of the previous Radio spot?

[sockittome]

My mp3 downloads from Amazon(US) have the 2 seconds of dead air at the beginning of each track from disc 3.  And yes, Do it Again has that echo from the previous track.

[37!ws]

How can you tell if "Surf's Up" is cut off??? I can't tell if I'm missing anything.....

[alf wiedersehen]

How can you tell if "Surf's Up" is cut off??? I can't tell if I'm missing anything.....

Instead of it fading out completely, it is abruptly cut off at the end. It's noticeable if you listen for it.

[Awesoman]

My disc does the same thing.  Simple fix if you use iTunes: chop off the first two seconds and the problem is corrected.  Also, for some inexplicable reason, I had a very difficult time ripping the stereo version of "Country Air" to my computer.  I could not detect any scratches on my disc, but the song would skip or stutter upon reaching my PC.  Finally got a clean rip by using Media Monkey and setting it to its slowest rip speed.  Problem solved.

[Awesoman]

Yeah i noticed this instantly. Do It Again begins with the echo from the end of Murray The K. All songs begin at 0:02. And Surf's Up does end abruptly.
Nippy

Noticed this exact same thing with Do It Again on Spotify Netherlands so presumably their source has the same fault. Have to be honest, this problem might potentially put me off ordering the set, unless it's only on some copies in which case I may take a gamble.

You're going to not order a Beach Boys box set featuring Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again, the California Feelin' demo, etc. because one of the six CD's has a two second pause at the start of each track?

I have a premium spotify account so I can listen to the music as much as I need (once effin spotify UK actually permits me to), plus I don't currently have a cd player hooked up so the appeal of the cds is minimal at the moment. The attraction for me would be the ability to put the mp3s into my uber BB playlist and now potentially I'd have to edit the start of some such as Do It Again to play properly. It just lessens the appeal of getting the actual cds for me.  If it was a vinyl set it would be a no brainer.

Of course the packaging and book are worthwhile so I'll probably get it, but might wait to see if there are sets without the mastering issue before committing.

Yes, it would take a whopping 4 minutes out of your life to correct.  Oh, the humanity.   

[runnersdialzero]

Yes, it would take a whopping 4 minutes out of your life to correct.  Oh, the humanity.  

It shouldn't be up to the purchaser to "fix" such a major pressing error themselves (that doesn't even fix the actual problem), nor does everyone on planet earth use a half-assed program like iTunes or even own a computer. What kind of attitude is that?

[Awesoman]

Yes, it would take a whopping 4 minutes out of your life to correct.  Oh, the humanity.  

It shouldn't be up to the purchaser to "fix" such a major pressing error themselves (that doesn't even fix the actual problem), nor does everyone on planet earth use a half-assed program like iTunes or even own a computer. What kind of attitude is that?

A more positive attitude than yours, clearly.  Rather than whining about it, I found my own fix that suits me just fine.  If you wish to bemoan yourself over this "major" pressing issue, be my guest.  The sky ain't fallin' in my world.

[runnersdialzero]

Yes, it would take a whopping 4 minutes out of your life to correct.  Oh, the humanity.  

It shouldn't be up to the purchaser to "fix" such a major pressing error themselves (that doesn't even fix the actual problem), nor does everyone on planet earth use a half-assed program like iTunes or even own a computer. What kind of attitude is that?

A more positive attitude than yours, clearly.  Rather than whining about it, I found my own fix that suits me just fine.  If you wish to bemoan yourself over this "major" pressing issue, be my guest.  The sky ain't fallin' in my world.

Derp. Above all else, again, it should not be up to the purchaser to "fix" something like this. In reality, you haven't fixed much of anything.

That's not a "bad attitude", that's expecting more in the way of quality control for something someone is paying $130 for while, y'know, actually bothering to consider other peoples' situations than my own (i.e. not everyone has what I have).

No one said "The sky is falling!", hypehat simply said he'd wait until the error was fixed in a very calm, rational manner. The tone of your responses, to me, is much more indicative of a bad attitude than anything he or I have said.

[The Shift]

Yes, it would take a whopping 4 minutes out of your life to correct.  Oh, the humanity.   

It shouldn't be up to the purchaser to "fix" such a major pressing error themselves (that doesn't even fix the actual problem), nor does everyone on planet earth use a half-assed program like iTunes or even own a computer. What kind of attitude is that?

A more positive attitude than yours, clearly.  Rather than whining about it, I found my own fix that suits me just fine.  If you wish to bemoan yourself over this "major" pressing issue, be my guest.  The sky ain't fallin' in my world.

Derp. Above all else, again, it should not be up to the purchaser to "fix" something like this. In reality, you haven't fixed much of anything.

That's not a "bad attitude", that's expecting more in the way of quality control for something someone is paying $130 for while, y'know, actually bothering to consider other peoples' situations than my own (i.e. not everyone has what I have).

No one said "The sky is falling!", hypehat simply said he'd wait until the error was fixed in a very calm, rational manner. The tone of your responses, to me, is much more indicative of a bad attitude than anything he or I have said.

With Runnerz all the way. I've paid good money for a set that hasn't been mastered entirely correctly. If every CD I'd ever bought had the same error that'd be 4x1200 minutes of my life to sort out, assuming I had the skills which I don't. I expect those responsible to take the same attitude to their jobs as I do to mine - to do the job right in the first place or make it good. What's wrong with that expectation?

[Mike's Beard]

My disc does the same thing.  Simple fix if you use iTunes: chop off the first two seconds and the problem is corrected.  Also, for some inexplicable reason, I had a very difficult time ripping the stereo version of "Country Air" to my computer.  I could not detect any scratches on my disc, but the song would skip or stutter upon reaching my PC.  Finally got a clean rip by using Media Monkey and setting it to its slowest rip speed.  Problem solved.

My PC really didn't want didn't want to rip My Love Lives On. First attempt came up with 'disc error'. Subsequent attempts revealed digital glitches on the audio towards the end of the track. After about the seventh try I finally got a clean copy of it down. And the disc was scratch free. Luckily it plays fine on my CD player.

[buddhahat]

Yeah i noticed this instantly. Do It Again begins with the echo from the end of Murray The K. All songs begin at 0:02. And Surf's Up does end abruptly.
Nippy

Noticed this exact same thing with Do It Again on Spotify Netherlands so presumably their source has the same fault. Have to be honest, this problem might potentially put me off ordering the set, unless it's only on some copies in which case I may take a gamble.

You're going to not order a Beach Boys box set featuring Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again, the California Feelin' demo, etc. because one of the six CD's has a two second pause at the start of each track?

I have a premium spotify account so I can listen to the music as much as I need (once effin spotify UK actually permits me to), plus I don't currently have a cd player hooked up so the appeal of the cds is minimal at the moment. The attraction for me would be the ability to put the mp3s into my uber BB playlist and now potentially I'd have to edit the start of some such as Do It Again to play properly. It just lessens the appeal of getting the actual cds for me.  If it was a vinyl set it would be a no brainer.

Of course the packaging and book are worthwhile so I'll probably get it, but might wait to see if there are sets without the mastering issue before committing.

Yes, it would take a whopping 4 minutes out of your life to correct.  Oh, the humanity.  

Congratulations on that 'fix' Einstein, but if you actually listen to the transitions between the songs once you've clipped two seconds off you'll find them pretty abrupt. There's a reason that two seconds of space was put there in the first place. Plus your method doesn't solve the clipping at the end of the Murray The K Radio Spot and Surf's Up. To do it properly takes more time than I'm willing to spend to sort an issue that shouldn't exist in the first place.

A more positive attitude than yours, clearly.  Rather than whining about it, I found my own fix that suits me just fine.  If you wish to bemoan yourself over this "major" pressing issue, be my guest.  The sky ain't fallin' in my world.

 If it's good enough for you that's great - I can accept it's not major and probably won't impact on most people's enjoyment of the music  - but personally I'd rather wait and see if the problem is remedied with future pressings and don't expect to be accused of whining when I express this preference.

No one said "The sky is falling!", hypehat simply said he'd wait until the error was fixed in a very calm, rational manner. The tone of your responses, to me, is much more indicative of a bad attitude than anything he or I have said.

Thanks, voice of reason (although you got the wrong hat!).

[37!ws]

Okay, let me ask my previous question this way:

Those of you whose "Surf's Up" is cut off (make of that what you will!)...at what point, timewise, does it cut off?

[Freddie French-Pounce]

Okay, let me ask my previous question this way:

Those of you whose "Surf's Up" is cut off (make of that what you will!)...at what point, timewise, does it cut off?

Open up the track from your surfs up two-fer. Cut the last 2 seconds off.

[rab2591]

I hope they at least offer a free download of a fixed Disc 3.

This isn't something we should have to fix ourselves....especially after paying $100-$145 for it.