Mastering Error on MIC Disc 3 ?

[The Shift]

Yup, good stuff indeed. Resolution looks near!

[jeffcdo]

Rip, edit cue sheet, replace Surf's Up (I used the one from the Brother Years), burn.  A five minute fix at most.  To not buy it over this is beyond silly. 

[The Heartical Don]

To all who provided info: many thanks!

[TV Forces]

Don, John and to those of us that do care,   I worked on it some this past week.  Amazon US came up with a new twist.  Then insisted to move through, I had to accept replacement.  So I did; got it Friday.  Had the bad disc - so Don, hold on a bit longer.  Amazon has offered to remove/freeze orders, once they hear back from me. -Seems extreme, but Capitol/EMI/Universal will jump quick if they do.

Not that extreme.  Something happened with the new Bob Dylan Complete Album Collection Vol. 1 set.  Amazon wasn't offering it for a week and now it's back with a Product Alert:  http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Album-Collection-V-1/dp/B00F6Y3FKW/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1385522728&sr=1-1&keywords=bob+dylan+complete+albums

[buddhahat]

Rip, edit cue sheet, replace Surf's Up (I used the one from the Brother Years), burn.  A five minute fix at most.  To not buy it over this is beyond silly. 

People not buying are aware of quick fix. People waiting would rather not have to fix problem themselves - expect expensive product to be mastered correctly in first place, however minimal problem is perceived to be by some. Please no more quick fix posts.

[The Shift]

Hear, hear, well said Buddhahat. If bought a steak and kidney pie at the Supermarket, I wouldn't expect to open the packaging to find a side of beef, a bag of flour, some lamb's kidneys and a copy of Delia. No-one bought a DIY project, they bought a superior packaged Beach Boys box set.

[leggo of my ego]

So HOW will restitution be made?

If they are shipping a replacement disk #3 to everyone that complains, I'm in.
but not RETURNING anything. Period.

If you like your MIC. You can keep your MIC. 

[feelsflow]

Hey Everybody,  I have got through to Universal.  And now have a free number:  1-800-288-5942     This takes you right to customer service in Indiana.  They have the disc # 3 replacement.  John, this is the USA #, but if you key in their service:  FisherCustSvc@umusic.com I saw a UK #, but they could not verify it was right, great 'eh?  Anyway, because of the Thanksgiving holiday, they will be closed Thursday and Friday.  They said I should have mine "in hand" by the end of next week.

Don,  They told me that they had pulled all the boxes at Universal's warehouses off the market to fix the problem.  But, Amazon USA is still selling the stock they have, great 'eh, again!?!  So guess you could call the 800 number to find more info.  I'd be careful, as they have made a right mess of this.  And I mean Universal.  Three months, and leaving it up to the consumer to work-out sucks.  They even told me that "usually" they leave it to the dealer to handle, but are making a "special" except in this case!  Well, if they are waiting for Amazon to help, they are still waiting.  I will say, this is the first time I've ever had a problem that Amazon couldn't fix.  And, they did toss me a twenty for all the trouble.  The box is currently selling for $108, about twenty less than I paid.

This problem is about to be done, but I am soon going to order the John Martyn box, also made by Universal.  This is where monopolies, and not being able to deal with B&M stores directly gets us.  John, any problems with it you've found?  Just getting through the 18 CDs and the DVD will take me awhile.  

Guess tomorrow I'll add an extra "to be grateful for" at the dinner table.    

Look UP,  Will

[feelsflow]

So HOW will restitution be made?

If they are shipping a replacement disk #3 to everyone that complains, I'm in.
but not RETURNING anything. Period.

If you like your MIC. You can keep your MIC.  

leggo,  They are not asking us to send back the "bad" disc.  They even waved me sending them a proof of purchase e-mail.  Now, don't get any ideas folks... ah, a way to get one of the discs...

Just got e-mail confirmation from @umusic.com that my replacement will ship out today.

[The Shift]

… but I am soon going to order the John Martyn box, also made by Universal.  This is where monopolies, and not being able to deal with B&M stores directly gets us.  John, any problems with it you've found?  Just getting through the 18 CDs and the DVD will take me awhile.…

I not even through all 18 discs yet – to be honest I've had them on in the background as I've been working quite intensively for the last few weeks so haven't had the aural magnifying glass on them (so to speak). I might have to wait for the kids to leave university to have any proper listening time these days (and Sierra, the eldest, is only 4…).

That said, the music is transporting…

The set came very high in Uncut Magazine's Archive Releases of the Year booklet which arrived today – number 2 or 3 from memory - tho' MIC wasn't placed.

[jeffcdo]

Hey Buddahat, why are you screaming?  It's a simple cue error not a mastering error.  I keep re-posting because people like you don't seem to "get it"
Because not everybody shares your opinion.

[bgas]

Hey Buddahat, why are you screaming.  It's a simple cue error not a mastering error.  I keep re-posting because people like you don't seem to "get it"

To paraphrase Mick and Keith: They just post because there's nothing else to do

[Mikie]

Buddhahate must be in another bad mood. Did everybody hear him OK?

[Jay]

For what it's worth, I agree with buddhahat. I know, it's a quick and simple fix. That's not the point. When I go to a store and buy something, I expect to not have to "fix" anything. *ducking from the flying stones*

[alf wiedersehen]

For what it's worth, I agree with buddhahat. I know, it's a quick and simple fix. That's not the point. When I go to a store and buy something, I expect to not have to "fix" anything. *ducking from the flying stones*

Exactly.

We understand we can fix this problem - that's not the point.

The point is that we spent a good deal of money of on this and we should expect that amount of money to count for something, like quality. The customer shouldn't be expected to fix a problem that the manufacturer made. That makes no sense.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I agree. For the most part the music on the set is wonderful. However, the lack of quality control ( the aforementioned issue along with some questionable sonics) is highly disappointing.

[Mikie]

Good thing you guys weren't around when the wrong mixes were used on a couple of the original CBS/Sony/Caribou CD's. Or the Endless Harmony comp, where they had to retract it. Or the Brian Wilson '88 solo CD on Rhino, when the wrong mix(s) were used. You guys would be crying in your beer over it.

And I know I'm miss-remembering another one with a defect - somebody please fill in the blank. Wasn't it in the Pet Sounds or Good Vibrations box? This MIC error is nothing.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

To be honest I'm more irritated with the piss poor mastering and remixing. I can (and have done...) a better job myself

[Mikie]

Well, if we're being honest here, I'm more irritated with the excessive use of reverb!

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Yeah, big time. Especially on the live wild honey, which to me sounded VERY amateurish.

[Alan Smith]

Good thing you guys weren't around when the wrong mixes were used on a couple of the original CBS/Sony/Caribou CD's. Or the Endless Harmony comp, where they had to retract it. Or the Brian Wilson '88 solo CD on Rhino, when the wrong mix(s) were used. You guys would be crying in your beer over it.

And I know I'm miss-remembering another one with a defect - somebody please fill in the blank. Wasn't it in the Pet Sounds or Good Vibrations box? This MIC error is nothing.

Yeah, but those c*ck-ups were during the preparation stage and ironically now have some collectible value - rare versions, what!

This MIC error is a tech glitch at the manufacturing end, like buying a pre-scratched record - big or small, a bit annoying.

Re Brian Wilson '88, I recall the Legendary AGD posting that no real or definitive master was ever submitted, just a tape reel/s or something - hence some differences in the orig versus the reissue (I could be wrong)

[Jay]

Speaking of glitches and mistakes, was there ever a reissued version of the 1993 box set with a speed corrected version of Do you Like Worms?

[Andrew G. Doe]

Nope.

Next question. 

[Andrew G. Doe]

Re Brian Wilson '88, I recall the Legendary AGD posting that no real or definitive master was ever submitted, just a tape reel/s or something - hence some differences in the orig versus the reissue (I could be wrong)

No, entirely correct - the original 1988 release was never assembled into an album master (why not ? No idea) so when the 2000 reissue came round, the compilers had to sift through a pile of individual song masters. Still don't understand why someone didn't take an hour  or so out to A/B those tapes with an original CD.

[buddhahat]

Hey Buddahat, why are you screaming?  It's a simple cue error not a mastering error.  I keep re-posting because people like you don't seem to "get it"

Several months in it should be clear by now that people aren't buying the set not because they think it's unfixable (and your solution doesn't actually fix anything, btw) - they're waiting because they expect better quality control on expensive boxed sets. Do you really think we don't get it?

not everybody shares your opinion.

... or yours:

To not buy it over this is beyond silly. 

Buddhahate

on form Mikie

[To paraphrase Mick and Keith: They just post because there's nothing else to do

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