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« Reply #75 on: August 23, 2013, 12:32:06 PM »

So, what is now the best remaining track to not have had an official release (or any release)?

Looking Down The Coast
Glow, Cresent Glow
Big Sur (4/4)
We've Got Love (if you discount the early wrong pressings!)
Viggie

It's kind of scary that most of these have M.Love in the songwriting credits!
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« Reply #76 on: August 23, 2013, 12:42:52 PM »

So, what is now the best remaining track to not have had an official release (or any release)?

There's certainly a startling amount of stuff still in the vaults...

Carry Me Home
That Special Feeling
Glow Crescent Glow
Oh Lord
Out in the Country etc.
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« Reply #77 on: August 23, 2013, 12:44:21 PM »

Just heard the track.

I was moved nearly to tears. The song finally made sense to me. I was rather unimpressed with the Adam Marsland version, but here...holy sh*t. Dennis' best vocal BY FAR, and easily the best song he wrote. Wow. Fucking righteous. Amazing.
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« Reply #78 on: August 23, 2013, 12:47:09 PM »

So, what is now the best remaining track to not have had an official release (or any release)?
Is "Sea Cruise" (15 BOs outtake), which was originally released on "Ten Years of Harmony", available today?  I can't find it for purchase.
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« Reply #79 on: August 23, 2013, 12:50:01 PM »

Unless you find a copy of Ten Years of Harmony on vinyl or CD, it's on one of the Dumb Angel Rarities discs (I think disc 3).
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« Reply #80 on: August 23, 2013, 12:55:06 PM »

Going on the internal evidence that Donny has just provided, I'd suspect that you'd have a Surf's Up track sequence like this (immediately prior to Dennis's withdrawal of his tracks):

Don't Go Near the Water
4th of July
Long Promised Road
Take a Load Off Your Feet
Disney Girls
(Wouldn't It Be Nice) To Live Again

Feel Flows
Lookin' At Tomorrow
Day in the Life of a Tree
Til I Die
Surf's Up

That would be where it was once "Surf's Up" was added to the lineup. Now it might have been that WIBNTLA was the closer for side two before that, and SDT was lurking around waiting for a slot, which opened up when "Surf's Up "bumped WIBNTLA out of its original perch.

I also think it's likely that "Carry Me Home" was viewed as pushing the social commentary too far by various folks, and would have been taken out of the running relatively early. It would be interesting to surmise the various shifting factions that got behind certain of the songs and how Jack Reiley tried to "keep the peace."

It would be one of those highly ironic moments in BB lore if Dennis had convinced Brian to put "Surf's Up" on the LP, only to find out that the decision was to put it at the end of side two to form a "Brian suite," thus bumping WIBNTLA from where he'd thought it rightfully belonged.

Alas, we'll probably never be privy to the exact blow-by-blow on all this. Needless to say, its revelation would be extremely interesting. Jon Stebbins, do you have any sense of what might have gone down? Is it possible that Barbara was privy to whatever happened? The timing of Dennis's hand injury and the release of the LP are pretty close, IIRC.

At least we finally have WIBNTLA.
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« Reply #81 on: August 23, 2013, 12:56:12 PM »

Is Everybody Wants to Live out there? Because that's good
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« Reply #82 on: August 23, 2013, 12:56:44 PM »

To be honest, I think you could just add the tune right after the title track on Surf's Up and the album would still be great, maybe even better.
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« Reply #83 on: August 23, 2013, 01:00:31 PM »

Is Everybody Wants to Live out there? Because that's good

It's been booted for years.
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« Reply #84 on: August 23, 2013, 01:00:42 PM »

So, what is now the best remaining track to not have had an official release (or any release)?

Stevie.
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« Reply #85 on: August 23, 2013, 01:01:40 PM »

By the way, is a mellotron the instrument that sounds in the begining of the song? (it reminds me a little bit the intro of "Strawberry Fields Forever".
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« Reply #86 on: August 23, 2013, 01:04:07 PM »

Is Everybody Wants to Live out there? Because that's good

It's been booted for years.

Best remaining track to have official release though. That's a classic as far as I'm concerned and I'm not sure it has been officially released has it?
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« Reply #87 on: August 23, 2013, 01:04:14 PM »

Doesn't sound like a mellotron; sounds like a celesta with Charles Lloyd on flute playing simultaneously.
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« Reply #88 on: August 23, 2013, 01:04:34 PM »

Is Everybody Wants to Live out there? Because that's good

It's been booted for years.

Best remaining track to have official release though. That's a classic as far as I'm concerned and I'm not sure it has been officially released has it?

Not yet...it'd be nice, though.
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« Reply #89 on: August 23, 2013, 01:05:03 PM »



I also think it's likely that "Carry Me Home" was viewed as pushing the social commentary too far by various folks, and would have been taken out of the running relatively early. It would be interesting to surmise the various shifting factions that got behind certain of the songs and how Jack Reiley tried to "keep the peace."



Surely this came later...
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« Reply #90 on: August 23, 2013, 01:05:35 PM »


Best remaining track to have official release though. That's a classic as far as I'm concerned and I'm not sure it has been officially released has it?

The lyrics are shocking on this one though. That might have held it back.
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« Reply #91 on: August 23, 2013, 01:06:07 PM »

Is Everybody Wants to Live out there? Because that's good

It's been booted for years.

Best remaining track to have official release though. That's a classic as far as I'm concerned and I'm not sure it has been officially released has it?

Not yet...it'd be nice, though.

Just goes to show you how much great stuff is still out there. Next boxset I guess though.
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« Reply #92 on: August 23, 2013, 01:06:13 PM »



I also think it's likely that "Carry Me Home" was viewed as pushing the social commentary too far by various folks, and would have been taken out of the running relatively early. It would be interesting to surmise the various shifting factions that got behind certain of the songs and how Jack Reiley tried to "keep the peace."



Surely this came later...

Carry Me Home is a Holland outtake.
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« Reply #93 on: August 23, 2013, 01:26:51 PM »

Unless you find a copy of Ten Years of Harmony on vinyl or CD, it's on one of the Dumb Angel Rarities discs (I think disc 3).
I have it, I think.  Just wonder why it isn't available.
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« Reply #94 on: August 23, 2013, 01:44:05 PM »

Can't wait to hear this and I know I'll love it! Big fan of the man's songs on CATP and I expect this to be even better.
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« Reply #95 on: August 23, 2013, 01:52:41 PM »



I also think it's likely that "Carry Me Home" was viewed as pushing the social commentary too far by various folks, and would have been taken out of the running relatively early. It would be interesting to surmise the various shifting factions that got behind certain of the songs and how Jack Reiley tried to "keep the peace."


Surely this came later...

Carry Me Home is a Holland outtake.

Right, my bad for not looking at Andrew's list prior to posting. I think the same issues applied to it, of course, when it came to its potential inclusion on Holland.
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« Reply #96 on: August 23, 2013, 01:53:52 PM »

Unless you find a copy of Ten Years of Harmony on vinyl or CD, it's on one of the Dumb Angel Rarities discs (I think disc 3).
I have it, I think.  Just wonder why it isn't available.

I guess there was no real point in reissuing the compilation after BRI regained control of the 1970-85 stuff, and the better moments were reissued on the Good Vibrations box set. Sea Cruise should find a home on a future rarities set.
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« Reply #97 on: August 23, 2013, 02:13:53 PM »

Time to ask a ridiculous question that will undoubtedly result in a fight between two or three of our more combustible members... on a hypothetical Surf's Up that included WIBNTLA, what would you choose as the top three songs?

I haven't decided yet, but the list includes..

- Til I Die
- Surf's Up
- Long Promised Road
- Wouldn't it be Nice to Live Again

Plus

- Disney Girls (Honorable mention)
- Feel Flows (Honorable mention)

I think a hypothetical Surf's Up that included WIBNTLA and discarded "Student Demonstration Time" would be very close to a perfect (perfectly flawed) album, in a much different sense than the (perfectly perfect) Sunflower.

The grimy, gritty cover (a previous poster mentioned the inky blackness) and the preponderance of songs like "Til I Die," WIBNTLA, "Day in the life of a tree," and "Long Promised Road" would, somewhat paradoxically, cause "Take a Load off Your Feet" to fit the album better, as a light-hearted track to leaven the proceedings.


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« Reply #98 on: August 23, 2013, 02:16:58 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jinTmcYwAdQ
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« Reply #99 on: August 23, 2013, 02:27:24 PM »

Time to ask a ridiculous question that will undoubtedly result in a fight between two or three of our more combustible members... on a hypothetical Surf's Up that included WIBNTLA, what would you choose as the top three songs?

Still the same for me as it always was;

Surf's Up
'Till I Die
Disney Girls

As good as WIBNTLA is, I don't think it's that good.
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