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« on: August 19, 2013, 09:19:40 AM »

Putting this up now as I noticed just now that tracks you've purchased already are available to be sampled. May been we're getting close (fingers crossed.)
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2013, 09:50:35 AM »

I'm looking at the box set in iTunes and I notice two strange issues-- one good and one potentially really bad (for somebody who plans to cherry pick):

Good (and strange):  Several of the tracks are showing as Purchased already.  I think these are the tracks I purchased from 50 Big Ones, but they're showing up here as purchased.  I've never seen this happen before.  For instance, if I were to purchase DYLW from the 2 disc Smile Sessions release, I wouldn't see it as purchased under the deluxe box set.  I'd have to purchase the tracks there too in order for them to show as purchased and be downloadable under that album.  Unless this is a snafu that will be addressed prior to next week, it looks like I'll be able to download all tracks on MIC that I purchased on 50BO.  Nice, I guess.

Potentially Bad:  All other tracks are Album Only.  I'm no iTunes expert, so maybe everything is album only prior to release.  If not, and things stay as they are now, it appears I will not be able to download individual tracks.  I had banked on that option.  If that's the case, I'll Spotify this box set and save my money (take that, Capitol).

I don't even see an option for mp3 version of the box set yet from Amazon.
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2013, 10:02:21 AM »

How are we only a week away and still no samples?
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2013, 10:14:04 AM »

How are we only a week away and still no samples?

Time has proven people will do a lot for just a sample
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,3562.msg372549.html#msg372549
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2013, 10:23:35 AM »

I'm looking at the box set in iTunes and I notice two strange issues-- one good and one potentially really bad (for somebody who plans to cherry pick):

Good (and strange):  Several of the tracks are showing as Purchased already.  I think these are the tracks I purchased from 50 Big Ones, but they're showing up here as purchased.  I've never seen this happen before.  For instance, if I were to purchase DYLW from the 2 disc Smile Sessions release, I wouldn't see it as purchased under the deluxe box set.  I'd have to purchase the tracks there too in order for them to show as purchased and be downloadable under that album.  Unless this is a snafu that will be addressed prior to next week, it looks like I'll be able to download all tracks on MIC that I purchased on 50BO.  Nice, I guess.

Potentially Bad:  All other tracks are Album Only.  I'm no iTunes expert, so maybe everything is album only prior to release.  If not, and things stay as they are now, it appears I will not be able to download individual tracks.  I had banked on that option.  If that's the case, I'll Spotify this box set and save my money (take that, Capitol).

I don't even see an option for mp3 version of the box set yet from Amazon.

I think iTunes usually makes tracks "album only" so that you can't buy it before hand. When it's officially released, they should all be available for individual download.
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2013, 10:29:22 AM »

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but I fully expect a lot of stuff to be "album only" on this set...not at all atypical for a release of this nature on iTunes.
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2013, 10:30:22 AM »

How are we only a week away and still no samples?

I predicted a while back it would be this week.let's see...
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2013, 11:04:01 AM »

Here's the solution:

BUY THE BOX!!!!

Problem solved.

(More to the point, as a Beach Boys fan [presumably fanatic] why would you possibly not want to own what is sure to be one of their most significant releases??? Seriously, you're happy just to have WIBNTLA on download...Huh? Hey ho, ok.)
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2013, 11:28:38 AM »

Here's the solution:

BUY THE BOX!!!!

Problem solved.

(More to the point, as a Beach Boys fan [presumably fanatic] why would you possibly not want to own what is sure to be one of their most significant releases??? Seriously, you're happy just to have WIBNTLA on download...Huh? Hey ho, ok.)

Not that simple, Disney Boy.  I do consider myself a fanatic, although I'm a relative newcomer and haven't digested the full band history yet.  Yes, I have spent much time creating my own Smile mixes, if that tells you anything. 

I don't happen to value "stuff" so much.  It would be nice to buy the box, and if that were in the budget, I'd snap it up in a heartbeat.  But at this point in my life I'm not driven to collect or own physical versions of my media.  I'd rather have the tracks I care for in a format that I can take with me and listen to everywhere.  I'm also pretty content to use Spotify-- not own the material (or the right to play the material), but have unmitigated listening access to it.  I don't think this disqualifies me as a fanatic.  I'm waiting for this release with baited breath just like everybody else here, but owning the physical media wouldn't be as fulfilling to me as it would be to most of you, so it's not a priority.

And no, I wouldn't just be happy for the WIBNTLA download Cool  There are very few Dennis tracks I really like.  WIBNTLA probably sucks.
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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2013, 11:31:38 AM »

 There are very few Dennis tracks I really like.  WIBNTLA probably sucks.

Careful...them kind of words will get you lynched in these parts!!!
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2013, 11:41:37 AM »

There are very few Dennis tracks I really like.  WIBNTLA probably sucks.

Careful...them kind of words will get you lynched in these parts!!!

Which is exactly why I wrote them!  Love to stir that pot.
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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2013, 11:46:30 AM »

There are very few Dennis tracks I really like.  WIBNTLA probably sucks.

I'd be willing to bet quite a lot that it doesn't.....
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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2013, 12:22:43 PM »

Not that simple, Disney Boy.  I do consider myself a fanatic, although I'm a relative newcomer and haven't digested the full band history yet.  ...  And no, I wouldn't just be happy for the WIBNTLA download Cool  There are very few Dennis tracks I really like.  WIBNTLA probably sucks.

You're not a Beach Boys fanatic if you hate Dennis.
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2013, 12:25:03 PM »

There are very few Dennis tracks I really like.  WIBNTLA probably sucks.

I'd be willing to bet quite a lot that it doesn't.....

When are you going to post your review Ego?
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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2013, 12:27:01 PM »

Not that simple, Disney Boy.  I do consider myself a fanatic, although I'm a relative newcomer and haven't digested the full band history yet.  ...  And no, I wouldn't just be happy for the WIBNTLA download Cool  There are very few Dennis tracks I really like.  WIBNTLA probably sucks.

You're not a Beach Boys fanatic if you hate Dennis.

Apparently sarcasm doesn't translate.
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« Reply #15 on: August 19, 2013, 12:30:29 PM »

I, for one, do not plan on dicking around with a bunch of samples and streams..Hell, I've waited this long!! When my set comes (along with the Dylan Bootleg #10) I'm going to vanish and listen the way  it should be done. Cool
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« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2013, 12:47:56 PM »

Same here, Jimmy.  No use dicking or pussyfootin' around....
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« Reply #17 on: August 19, 2013, 01:02:00 PM »

Not that simple, Disney Boy.  I do consider myself a fanatic, although I'm a relative newcomer and haven't digested the full band history yet.  ...  And no, I wouldn't just be happy for the WIBNTLA download Cool  There are very few Dennis tracks I really like.  WIBNTLA probably sucks.

You're not a Beach Boys fanatic if you hate Dennis.

I'm a Beach Boys fanatic and I too dislike the majority of Dennis' songs. I especially hate the music he collaborated with Daryl Dragon on in 1971, such as "Make It Good" and "Barbara."
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« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2013, 02:19:41 PM »

From what I've heard, WIBNTLA is nice in that it captures Dennis at a great moment in between his early, strongly melodic material (think "Forever") and his more indulgent and sprawling later work. That said, the bass line always reminds me a bit too much of "My Girl" for comfort.
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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2013, 05:45:25 PM »

Well I'm a BB fanatic and I really Really hate the surf stuff, followed by the car songs, followed by the summer songs. Don't get me started on that artsy fartsy Pet Sounds, Smile, Smiley Smile rubbish. I too detest with a passion anything recorded around the Sunflower/Surf's Up era. Can't stand the CATP/Holland rubbish. They sucked as a live band so In Concert is only good as a door stop. The late 70's stuff is woeful except for Battle Hymn of the Republic, and the same goes for anything released afterwards espcially POB.

Man I love, I mean truly love their work.
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« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2013, 10:11:30 PM »

Well I'm a BB fanatic and I really Really hate the surf stuff, followed by the car songs, followed by the summer songs. Don't get me started on that artsy fartsy Pet Sounds, Smile, Smiley Smile rubbish. I too detest with a passion anything recorded around the Sunflower/Surf's Up era. Can't stand the CATP/Holland rubbish. They sucked as a live band so In Concert is only good as a door stop. The late 70's stuff is woeful except for Battle Hymn of the Republic, and the same goes for anything released afterwards espcially POB.

Man I love, I mean truly love their work.

I think most BB fans may find one or two things in your rant they might agree to a certain extent. For me there's one and a half. Grin

The problem with actual fanatics is they don't know any fun or humour with the subject of their fanatism.
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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2013, 10:30:03 PM »

There are very few Dennis tracks I really like.  WIBNTLA probably sucks.

I'd be willing to bet quite a lot that it doesn't.....

When are you going to post your review Ego?

8/26
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« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2013, 03:06:06 AM »

When are you going to post your review Ego?

8/26

Interesting. I take this to mean that you think eight of the 26 unreleased tracks are good, or 'worth it' (a minefield of personal subjectivity, of course!)

It's so hard to figure this kind of stuff out. For a start, what are the 26 unreleased tracks? I mean, like REALLY unreleased.

It depends how you look at it, especially if you don't place a lot of importance on, say, the difference between a mono and a stereo mix of something, or whether a track is live or not. Of course, here in the fanatical camp of hardline admirers of this half-century old Wilson-led musical beat combo, we know that, say, a 1972 live version of Wild Honey can be so far removed from the original home-studio-like 1967 recording as to be an almost totally different song, and the same goes for, say, a bootleg stereo mix of California Girls from the tracking session over the original mono, or the 1998 stereo remix, or the 2002 stereo remix (and so on and so on...!). But for casual listeners, even ones who like the band (into which group my wife falls...), it's all just Wild Honey and California Girls. *Again*.

When I put my Amazon order in for MiC, my wife said 'ANOTHER Beach Boys box? What's on *this* one that you've not heard a million times before?'

I started saying, "oh, loads. For example, the very first track, Surfin, is a home recording..."

She replied bluntly with 'But Surfin' has been out! It was their first single!'

And we proceeded through the track list, with her demolishing almost every track that was supposedly unreleased. It was funny and I laughed a lot, because of course if you take an absolutely rigid, hard-line attitude to 'unreleased', there actually isn't all that much on this box that's not been out before IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER.

I mean, even if we start with the starred (or, in the list below, diamonded) items on the MiC tracklist, which is the supposed *official* list of what's unreleased on this set, there's a maximum of what I make to be 68 unreleased tracks.

Home Recordings / "Surfin'" Rehearsal Highlights (2012 Edit - Mono) (Brian Wilson, Mike Love) ♦
"Surfin'" (with Session Intro - Mono) (B. Wilson, Love) ♦
"Surfers Rule" (with Session Intro) (B. Wilson, Love) ♦
"Back Home" (B. Wilson, Bob Norberg) ♦
"I Get Around" (with Session Intro - Mono) (B. Wilson, Love) ♦
"Amusement Parks USA" (Early Version) (B. Wilson, Love) ♦
"Graduation Day" (Session Excerpt and Master Take, 2012 Mix) (Joe Sherman, Noel Sherman) ♦
"There's No Other (Like My Baby)" (2012 "Unplugged" Mix with Party Session Intro) (Phil Spector, Leroy Bates) ♦
"Our Prayer" (2012 The Smile Sessions Stereo Mix) (B. Wilson
"Country Air" (2012 Stereo Mix) (B. Wilson, Love)
"Meant for You" (Alternate Version) (B. Wilson, Love) ♦
"Sail Plane Song" (2012 Stereo Mix) (B. Wilson) ♦
"We're Together Again" (2012 Stereo Mix) (Ron Wilson) ♦
"Do It Again" (2012 Stereo Mix) (B. Wilson, Love) ♦
"Susie Cincinnati" (2012 Mix) (Jardine) ♦
"(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again" (D. Wilson) ♦
"Rock and Roll Music" (2012 Mix w/Extra Verse)(Berry) ♦
"It's OK" (Alternate Mix) (B. Wilson, Love) ♦
"It's Over Now" (Alternate Mix) (B. Wilson) ♦
"California Feelin'" (B. Wilson, Kalinich) ♦
"Brian's Back" (Alternate Mix) (Love) ♦
"It's a Beautiful Day" (Single Edit) (2012 Mix) (Jardine, Love) ♦
"Goin' to the Beach" (Love) ♦
"Why Don't They Let Us Fall In Love" (Spector, Barry, Greenwich) ♦
"Da Doo Ron Ron" (Spector, Barry, Greenwich) ♦
"Soul Searchin'" (B. Wilson, Andy Paley) ♦
"You're Still a Mystery" (B. Wilson, Paley) ♦
"Runaway" (Chicago 1965, with Concert Promo Intro - Mono) (Del Shannon, Max Crook) ♦
"You're So Good to Me" (Paris 1966 - Mono) (B. Wilson, Love) ♦
"The Letter" (Hawaii Rehearsal 1967) (Wayne Carson Thompson) ♦
"Friends" (Chicago 1968 - Mono) (B. Wilson, C. Wilson, D. Wilson, Jardine) ♦
"Little Bird" (Chicago 1968 - Mono) (D. Wilson, Kalinich) ♦
"All I Want to Do" (London 1968) (D. Wilson, Kalinich) ♦
"Help Me, Rhonda" (New Jersey 1972) (B. Wilson, Love) ♦
"Wild Honey" (New Jersey 1972) (B. Wilson, Love) ♦
"Only with You" (New York 1972) (D. Wilson, Love) ♦
"It's About Time" (Chicago 1973) (D. Wilson, C. Wilson, Jardine, Burchman) ♦
"I Can Hear Music" (Maryland 1975) (Spector, Barry, Greenwich) ♦
"Vegetables" (New York 1993) (B. Wilson, Parks) ♦
"Wonderful" (New York 1993) (B. Wilson, Parks) ♦
"Sail On, Sailor" (Louisville 1995) (B. Wilson, Parks, Rieley, Almer, Kennedy) ♦
"Summer in Paradise" (London 1993) (Love, Melcher, Craig Fall) ♦
"Slip on Through" (A Cappella Mix) (D. Wilson) ♦
"Don't Worry Baby" (Stereo Session Outtake w/ Alternate Lead Vocal) (B. Wilson, Christian) ♦
"Pom Pom Play Girl" (Vocal Session Highlight) (B. Wilson, Usher) ♦
"Guess I'm Dumb" (Instrumental Track w/Background Vocals) (B. Wilson, Russ Titelman) ♦
"Sherry She Needs Me" (1965 Track w/1976 Vocal) (B. Wilson) ♦
"Mona Kana" (Instrumental Track) (D. Wilson) ♦
"This Whole World" (A Cappella) (B. Wilson) ♦
"Where Is She?" (B. Wilson) ♦
"Had to Phone Ya" (Instrumental Track) (B. Wilson) ♦
"Be with Me" (Demo) (D. Wilson) ♦
"I Believe in Miracles" (Vocal Section) ♦
"Why" (Instrumental Track) (B. Wilson) ♦
"Barnyard Blues" (D. Wilson) ♦
"Don't Go Near the Water" (Instrumental Track) (Love, Jardine) ♦
"You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'" (Spector, Barry Mann, Cynthia Weil) ♦
"Transcendental Meditation" (Instrumental Track) (B. Wilson, Jardine) ♦
"Our Sweet Love" (Vocals w/Strings) (B. Wilson, C. Wilson, Jardine) ♦
"Back Home" (1970 Version) (B. Wilson, Norberg) ♦
"California Feelin'" (Original Demo) (B. Wilson, Kalinich) ♦
"California Girls" ("Lei'd In Hawaii" Studio Version) (B. Wilson, Love) ♦
"Help You, Rhonda" ("Lei'd In Hawaii" Studio Version) (B. Wilson, Love) ♦
"Surf's Up" (1967 Version, 2012 Mix) (B. Wilson, Parks) ♦
"My Love Lives On" (D. Wilson) ♦
"Wendy" (BBC -- Live in the Studio 1964 - Mono) (B. Wilson, Love) ♦
"When I Grow Up (To Be a Man)" (BBC -- Live in the Studio 1964 - Mono) (B. Wilson, Love) ♦
"Hushabye" (BBC -- Live in the Studio 1964 - Mono) (B. Wilson, Love) ♦

If we knock out commercially released tracks that are basically the same mixes as what we've heard before with extra tracking session recordings glued on the front, the list comes down to 63 tracks, as follows:

"Back Home" (B. Wilson, Bob Norberg)
"Amusement Parks USA" (Early Version) (B. Wilson, Love)
"There's No Other (Like My Baby)" (2012 "Unplugged" Mix with Party Session Intro) (Phil Spector, Leroy Bates)
"Our Prayer" (2012 The Smile Sessions Stereo Mix) (B. Wilson
"Country Air" (2012 Stereo Mix) (B. Wilson, Love)
"Meant for You" (Alternate Version) (B. Wilson, Love)
"Sail Plane Song" (2012 Stereo Mix) (B. Wilson)
"We're Together Again" (2012 Stereo Mix) (Ron Wilson)
"Do It Again" (2012 Stereo Mix) (B. Wilson, Love)
"Susie Cincinnati" (2012 Mix) (Jardine)
"(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again" (D. Wilson)
"Rock and Roll Music" (2012 Mix w/Extra Verse)(Berry)
"It's OK" (Alternate Mix) (B. Wilson, Love)
"It's Over Now" (Alternate Mix) (B. Wilson)
"California Feelin'" (B. Wilson, Kalinich)
"Brian's Back" (Alternate Mix) (Love)
"It's a Beautiful Day" (Single Edit) (2012 Mix) (Jardine, Love)
"Goin' to the Beach" (Love)
"Why Don't They Let Us Fall In Love" (Spector, Barry, Greenwich)
"Da Doo Ron Ron" (Spector, Barry, Greenwich)
"Soul Searchin'" (B. Wilson, Andy Paley)
"You're Still a Mystery" (B. Wilson, Paley)
"Runaway" (Chicago 1965, with Concert Promo Intro - Mono) (Del Shannon, Max Crook)
"You're So Good to Me" (Paris 1966 - Mono) (B. Wilson, Love)
"The Letter" (Hawaii Rehearsal 1967) (Wayne Carson Thompson)
"Friends" (Chicago 1968 - Mono) (B. Wilson, C. Wilson, D. Wilson, Jardine)
"Little Bird" (Chicago 1968 - Mono) (D. Wilson, Kalinich)
"All I Want to Do" (London 1968) (D. Wilson, Kalinich)
"Help Me, Rhonda" (New Jersey 1972) (B. Wilson, Love)
"Wild Honey" (New Jersey 1972) (B. Wilson, Love)
"Only with You" (New York 1972) (D. Wilson, Love)
"It's About Time" (Chicago 1973) (D. Wilson, C. Wilson, Jardine, Burchman)
"I Can Hear Music" (Maryland 1975) (Spector, Barry, Greenwich)
"Vegetables" (New York 1993) (B. Wilson, Parks)
"Wonderful" (New York 1993) (B. Wilson, Parks)
"Sail On, Sailor" (Louisville 1995) (B. Wilson, Parks, Rieley, Almer, Kennedy)
"Summer in Paradise" (London 1993) (Love, Melcher, Craig Fall)
"Slip on Through" (A Cappella Mix) (D. Wilson)
"Don't Worry Baby" (Stereo Session Outtake w/ Alternate Lead Vocal) (B. Wilson, Christian)
"Pom Pom Play Girl" (Vocal Session Highlight) (B. Wilson, Usher)
"Guess I'm Dumb" (Instrumental Track w/Background Vocals) (B. Wilson, Russ Titelman)
"Sherry She Needs Me" (1965 Track w/1976 Vocal) (B. Wilson)
"Mona Kana" (Instrumental Track) (D. Wilson)
"This Whole World" (A Cappella) (B. Wilson)
"Where Is She?" (B. Wilson)
"Had to Phone Ya" (Instrumental Track) (B. Wilson)
"Be with Me" (Demo) (D. Wilson)
"I Believe in Miracles" (Vocal Section)
"Why" (Instrumental Track) (B. Wilson)
"Barnyard Blues" (D. Wilson)
"Don't Go Near the Water" (Instrumental Track) (Love, Jardine)
"You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'" (Spector, Barry Mann, Cynthia Weil)
"Transcendental Meditation" (Instrumental Track) (B. Wilson, Jardine)
"Our Sweet Love" (Vocals w/Strings) (B. Wilson, C. Wilson, Jardine)
"Back Home" (1970 Version) (B. Wilson, Norberg)
"California Feelin'" (Original Demo) (B. Wilson, Kalinich)
"California Girls" ("Lei'd In Hawaii" Studio Version) (B. Wilson, Love)
"Help You, Rhonda" ("Lei'd In Hawaii" Studio Version) (B. Wilson, Love)
"Surf's Up" (1967 Version, 2012 Mix) (B. Wilson, Parks)
"My Love Lives On" (D. Wilson)
"Wendy" (BBC -- Live in the Studio 1964 - Mono) (B. Wilson, Love)
"When I Grow Up (To Be a Man)" (BBC -- Live in the Studio 1964 - Mono) (B. Wilson, Love)
"Hushabye" (BBC -- Live in the Studio 1964 - Mono) (B. Wilson, Love)

If you knock out remixes of released tracks, as my wife would, the list is much shortened. No matter that, for example, hearing the bluesy backing vocals to Slip On Through in isolation will be an experience utterly different to hearing the original track on Sunflower, or that We're Together Again has totally different extra overdubs to the version released on the 1990 twofer: she would say 'but it's from the same recording of the same song. And it's been out before. End of discussion…'. The list would then look like this, with 42 entries.

"Back Home" (B. Wilson, Bob Norberg)
"(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again" (D. Wilson)
"Rock and Roll Music" (2012 Mix w/Extra Verse)(Berry)
"California Feelin'" (B. Wilson, Kalinich)
"Goin' to the Beach" (Love)
"Why Don't They Let Us Fall In Love" (Spector, Barry, Greenwich)
"Da Doo Ron Ron" (Spector, Barry, Greenwich)
"Soul Searchin'" (B. Wilson, Andy Paley)
"You're Still a Mystery" (B. Wilson, Paley)
"Runaway" (Chicago 1965, with Concert Promo Intro - Mono) (Del Shannon, Max Crook)
"You're So Good to Me" (Paris 1966 - Mono) (B. Wilson, Love)
"The Letter" (Hawaii Rehearsal 1967) (Wayne Carson Thompson)
"Friends" (Chicago 1968 - Mono) (B. Wilson, C. Wilson, D. Wilson, Jardine)
"Little Bird" (Chicago 1968 - Mono) (D. Wilson, Kalinich)
"All I Want to Do" (London 1968) (D. Wilson, Kalinich)
"Help Me, Rhonda" (New Jersey 1972) (B. Wilson, Love)
"Wild Honey" (New Jersey 1972) (B. Wilson, Love)
"Only with You" (New York 1972) (D. Wilson, Love)
"It's About Time" (Chicago 1973) (D. Wilson, C. Wilson, Jardine, Burchman)
"I Can Hear Music" (Maryland 1975) (Spector, Barry, Greenwich)
"Vegetables" (New York 1993) (B. Wilson, Parks)
"Wonderful" (New York 1993) (B. Wilson, Parks)
"Sail On, Sailor" (Louisville 1995) (B. Wilson, Parks, Rieley, Almer, Kennedy)
"Summer in Paradise" (London 1993) (Love, Melcher, Craig Fall)
"Don't Worry Baby" (Stereo Session Outtake w/ Alternate Lead Vocal) (B. Wilson, Christian)
"Pom Pom Play Girl" (Vocal Session Highlight) (B. Wilson, Usher)
"Sherry She Needs Me" (1965 Track w/1976 Vocal) (B. Wilson)
"Mona Kana" (Instrumental Track) (D. Wilson)
"Where Is She?" (B. Wilson)
"Be with Me" (Demo) (D. Wilson)
"I Believe in Miracles" (Vocal Section)
"Why" (Instrumental Track) (B. Wilson)
"Barnyard Blues" (D. Wilson)
"You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'" (Spector, Barry Mann, Cynthia Weil)
"Back Home" (1970 Version) (B. Wilson, Norberg)
"California Feelin'" (Original Demo) (B. Wilson, Kalinich)
"California Girls" ("Lei'd In Hawaii" Studio Version) (B. Wilson, Love)
"Help You, Rhonda" ("Lei'd In Hawaii" Studio Version) (B. Wilson, Love)
"My Love Lives On" (D. Wilson)
"Wendy" (BBC -- Live in the Studio 1964 - Mono) (B. Wilson, Love)
"When I Grow Up (To Be a Man)" (BBC -- Live in the Studio 1964 - Mono) (B. Wilson, Love)
"Hushabye" (BBC -- Live in the Studio 1964 - Mono) (B. Wilson, Love)

If you then knock out live versions of songs previously released, there's another big drop, to just 24 tracks. I know, I know, the 1972 'Help Me, Rhonda' with Dennis sounds totally different to the 1965 single to my ears too, but let's go with it. The list now looks like this:

"Back Home" (B. Wilson, Bob Norberg)
"(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again" (D. Wilson)
"Rock and Roll Music" (2012 Mix w/Extra Verse)(Berry)
"California Feelin'" (B. Wilson, Kalinich)
"Goin' to the Beach" (Love)
"Why Don't They Let Us Fall In Love" (Spector, Barry, Greenwich)
"Da Doo Ron Ron" (Spector, Barry, Greenwich)
"Soul Searchin'" (B. Wilson, Andy Paley)
"You're Still a Mystery" (B. Wilson, Paley)
"Don't Worry Baby" (Stereo Session Outtake w/ Alternate Lead Vocal) (B. Wilson, Christian)
"Pom Pom Play Girl" (Vocal Session Highlight) (B. Wilson, Usher)
"Sherry She Needs Me" (1965 Track w/1976 Vocal) (B. Wilson)
"Mona Kana" (Instrumental Track) (D. Wilson)
"Where Is She?" (B. Wilson)
"Be with Me" (Demo) (D. Wilson)
"I Believe in Miracles" (Vocal Section)
"Why" (Instrumental Track) (B. Wilson)
"Barnyard Blues" (D. Wilson)
"You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'" (Spector, Barry Mann, Cynthia Weil)
"Back Home" (1970 Version) (B. Wilson, Norberg)
"California Feelin'" (Original Demo) (B. Wilson, Kalinich)
"California Girls" ("Lei'd In Hawaii" Studio Version) (B. Wilson, Love)
"Help You, Rhonda" ("Lei'd In Hawaii" Studio Version) (B. Wilson, Love)
"My Love Lives On" (D. Wilson)

And finally, if you really apply the non-serious-fan Occam's Razor (perhaps guillotine would be a better word) and brutally remove any version of any song that has ever been commercially released before in some Beach Boys-recorded form, you get this compact and bijoux little list-ette of 16 items:

"(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again" (D. Wilson)
"California Feelin'" (B. Wilson, Kalinich)
"Goin' to the Beach" (Love)
"Why Don't They Let Us Fall In Love" (Spector, Barry, Greenwich)
"Da Doo Ron Ron" (Spector, Barry, Greenwich)
"Soul Searchin'" (B. Wilson, Andy Paley)
"You're Still a Mystery" (B. Wilson, Paley)
"Sherry She Needs Me" (1965 Track w/1976 Vocal) (B. Wilson)
"Mona Kana" (Instrumental Track) (D. Wilson)
"Where Is She?" (B. Wilson)
"I Believe in Miracles" (Vocal Section)
"Why" (Instrumental Track) (B. Wilson)
"Barnyard Blues" (D. Wilson)
"You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'" (Spector, Barry Mann, Cynthia Weil)
"California Feelin'" (Original Demo) (B. Wilson, Kalinich)
"My Love Lives On" (D. Wilson)

And if we drop the 'commercially released' requirement, and ask, as of course my wife did, "so that's it - 16 tracks you've never, ever heard, *ever*, in any way at all…?" I had to admit that the list should shrink further, because of could I *have* heard some of them on bootlegs, albeit in different mixes, or *unmixed* versions:

"(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again" (D. Wilson)
"Where Is She?" (B. Wilson)
"I Believe in Miracles" (Vocal Section)
"Why" (Instrumental Track) (B. Wilson)
"Barnyard Blues" (D. Wilson)
"My Love Lives On" (D. Wilson)

Six tracks. Just six (as David Tennant might say). Which, finally, raises my question: how did EgoHanger66 arrive at 26 as the total? Which version of 'previously unreleased' do you adhere to…?

Of course, none of the above analysis diminishes the absolute certainty, bar the destruction of the planet between now and next week, of me purchasing MiC, and incidentally, I *did* win my wife over in the end as to the utterly essential nature of purchasing MiC by playing her the new mix of California Feeling. Not that this was really any kind of serious disagreement, but you know, I had to 'win' anyway, *obviously*...!   Wink

And to return to topic, it's really the final core list of six that I'll turn to first when I get my set, and about which I could realistically be 'spoiled'. But with the release this close, I think I'll hold out now, even if samples or leaks occur.

Beyond that six: I can't wait to hear Country Air and Do It Again in stereo, the alt version of Meant for You, the new mix of We're Together Again, the Lei'd In Hawaii studio tracks in properly mixed versions, the Beach Boys versions of the Paley session tracks from the 90s, and the 1993 'box set tour' live SMiLE tracks. Oh, and the stereo SMiLE Sessions Our Prayer. That's got to be worth a listen, right?
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« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2013, 03:29:24 AM »

Matt, he means he's posting it on the 26th of September....
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Oh, whoops...


D'oh!!!
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