Mike Love: 'There are a lot of fallacies about me'

[zachrwolfe]

People all around the world in every nation
Like to get together for some excitations
If you’re a girl appreciates her recreation
Why don’t you let me take you on a love vacation

Song-smithery at it's finest, guys.

[Jonathan Blum]

I can.... First off, since Mike Campbell is all over Petty's solo stuff, it's natural that the Heartbreakers feel will be there.... However, the absence of Stan Lynch and that Jeff Lynn slime is all over the solo albums (JL tried to ruin Learning To Fly but only partially succeeded) .... The awful JL drum sound and drum machines are very present on Full Moon Fever, for instance, whereas Learning To Fly, while still bearing that putrid sound, has a creative drummer behind the kit....

Wow, astonishing amounts of Petty scholarship going on here.  :-)  In my defence, said college buddy and I were having these conversations around 1993/4, when the only recent Heartbreakers album was "Into The Great Wide Open", which sounds way more like Jeff Lynne and "Full Moon Fever" than anything else.  And neither one of us was the type of person who could even name Stan Lynch, at least till Rolling Stone mentioned Steve Ferrone had replaced him.  (And I mainly remembered Ferrone because of Petty singing "Yer So Bad" live with the lyrics "My sister got lonely / Married Ferronely"...)

Cheers,
Jon Blum

[Quzi]

This board is as inept with identifying satire as Al is inept with operating technology.

[leggo of my ego]

If what I have been stating here in this thread is even somewhat correct, then Mike shot down a new album because he didn't want a repeat from last year.

A surprisingly strong album that was also a pretty solid commercial hit.

Yes, it was very strong. I am strictly talking of writing the bulk of an album together.

I know. But if the end result was so good, I can't fathom why Mike couldn't put aside his desire to relive his own rose-coloured view of the past in favour of a similar project. If he didn't have a track record of getting all hung up about really great works that he wasn't involved in in the past, I might be a bit more forgiving. As it is, this is just another sign of his ongoing childishness.

Agreed, the main problem with Mike seems to be his unwillingness to let go of the past and accept change in the BBs. This is a man still obsessed with a long passed "surf" fad from the early 1960s.

So SMiLE Brian...it seems we yet again disagree.

Mike is the least ego centered Beach Boy. The rest of them really care about maintaining images long before set in stone. How much have any of the other members changed, in terms of public image? Little. Mike is a real person, and accepts himself, no matter where that may lead him.

That's right. Mike accepts that he is better than the rest, and humbly, doesn't need to prove it to anyone. Instead, he prefers to release small golden, nuggets of song-smithery like "Summer of Love," and "Still Cruisin,"  whcih was even deemed superb enough to use in Lethal Weapon 2. The man is a national treasure.

So Michael you finally showed up here to defend yourself. Dont go overboard though.

[leggo of my ego]

And just in case that post was sarcasm, not satire. 

[SIP Mike]

If what I have been stating here in this thread is even somewhat correct, then Mike shot down a new album because he didn't want a repeat from last year.

A surprisingly strong album that was also a pretty solid commercial hit.

Yes, it was very strong. I am strictly talking of writing the bulk of an album together.

I know. But if the end result was so good, I can't fathom why Mike couldn't put aside his desire to relive his own rose-coloured view of the past in favour of a similar project. If he didn't have a track record of getting all hung up about really great works that he wasn't involved in in the past, I might be a bit more forgiving. As it is, this is just another sign of his ongoing childishness.

Agreed, the main problem with Mike seems to be his unwillingness to let go of the past and accept change in the BBs. This is a man still obsessed with a long passed "surf" fad from the early 1960s.

So SMiLE Brian...it seems we yet again disagree.

Mike is the least ego centered Beach Boy. The rest of them really care about maintaining images long before set in stone. How much have any of the other members changed, in terms of public image? Little. Mike is a real person, and accepts himself, no matter where that may lead him.

That's right. Mike accepts that he is better than the rest, and humbly, doesn't need to prove it to anyone. Instead, he prefers to release small golden, nuggets of song-smithery like "Summer of Love," and "Still Cruisin,"  whcih was even deemed superb enough to use in Lethal Weapon 2. The man is a national treasure.

So Michael you finally showed up here to defend yourself. Dont go overboard though.

Nice avatar. I can tell we'll be firm friends.

[Iron Horse-Apples]

I don't know about fallacies, but there's certainly a lot of phalluses in this thread.

[Jason]

I don't know about fallacies, but there's certainly a lot of phalluses in this thread.

They are engaged in a life-or-death struggle for territory.

[Cam Mott]

Nice avatar. I can tell we'll be firm friends.

Get a room. 

[Iron Horse-Apples]

I don't know about fallacies, but there's certainly a lot of phalluses in this thread.

They are engaged in a life-or-death struggle for territory.

Takes me right back to the school shower room........

[Jason]

I don't know about fallacies, but there's certainly a lot of phalluses in this thread.

They are engaged in a life-or-death struggle for territory.

Takes me right back to the school shower room........

I was actually referencing Python.

"Here we see a pantomime Princess Margaret engaged in a life-or-death struggle with her breakfast!"

[leggo of my ego]

Nice avatar. I can tell we'll be firm friends.

Get a room. 

Scary! 

[Jason]

You kids have fun!

[leggo of my ego]

Agreed, the main problem with Mike seems to be his unwillingness to let go of the past and accept change in the BBs. This is a man still obsessed with a long passed "surf" fad from the early 1960s.

I think you're obsessed with your image of Mike.

Agree with SMiLE Brian due to The Man's words and actions. Stuck in the Sixites.

[SIP Mike]

Agreed, the main problem with Mike seems to be his unwillingness to let go of the past and accept change in the BBs. This is a man still obsessed with a long passed "surf" fad from the early 1960s.

I think you're obsessed with your image of Mike.

Agree with SMiLE Brian due to The Man's words and actions. Stuck in the Sixites.

You win this round SMiLE Brian...but I'll be back.

[Jason]

Agreed, the main problem with Mike seems to be his unwillingness to let go of the past and accept change in the BBs. This is a man still obsessed with a long passed "surf" fad from the early 1960s.

I think you're obsessed with your image of Mike.

Agree with SMiLE Brian due to The Man's words and actions. Stuck in the Sixites.

His "image" is nothing other than a gross caricature. He sees a Spitting Image version of Michael that does not exist and never did exist.

[Dancing Bear]

Agreed, the main problem with Mike seems to be his unwillingness to let go of the past and accept change in the BBs. This is a man still obsessed with a long passed "surf" fad from the early 1960s.

I think you're obsessed with your image of Mike.

Agree with SMiLE Brian due to The Man's words and actions. Stuck in the Sixites.

His "image" is nothing other than a gross caricature. He sees a Spitting Image version of Michael that does not exist and never did exist.

For some there will always be "heroes and villains" in teh Beach Boys' saga...

[SMiLE Brian]

Agreed, the main problem with Mike seems to be his unwillingness to let go of the past and accept change in the BBs. This is a man still obsessed with a long passed "surf" fad from the early 1960s.

I think you're obsessed with your image of Mike.

Agree with SMiLE Brian due to The Man's words and actions. Stuck in the Sixites.

You win this round SMiLE Brian...but I'll be back.

Bring your buddy John Stamos next time....

[oldsurferdude]

Agreed, the main problem with Mike seems to be his unwillingness to let go of the past and accept change in the BBs. This is a man still obsessed with a long passed "surf" fad from the early 1960s.

I think you're obsessed with your image of Mike.

Agree with SMiLE Brian due to The Man's words and actions. Stuck in the Sixites.

You win this round SMiLE Brian...but I'll be back.

Bring your buddy John Stamos next time....

Don't forget to bring myKe's tamborine along with his mahntrah.

[leggo of my ego]

Nice avatar. I can tell we'll be firm friends.

Sure, me friend -- but lest you be deceived about the true nature of my avatar, you should examine my entire photoshop concept before jumping to conclusions.

[SIP Mike]

Agreed, the main problem with Mike seems to be his unwillingness to let go of the past and accept change in the BBs. This is a man still obsessed with a long passed "surf" fad from the early 1960s.

I think you're obsessed with your image of Mike.

Agree with SMiLE Brian due to The Man's words and actions. Stuck in the Sixites.

You win this round SMiLE Brian...but I'll be back.

Bring your buddy John Stamos next time....

Maybe I will.

[SMiLE Brian]

You seem happy to have Stamos as a BB...

[SIP Mike]

You seem happy to have Stamos as a BB...

Such a beautiful soul (and face!) fits in with the Beach Boys entourage well.

[SMiLE Brian]

You like picking up grannies with him. Brian is the BBs and you know it.

[oldsurferdude]

You like picking up grannies with him. Brian is the BBs and you know it.