BAD Tour/Setlist '13

[Melt Away]

http://www.brianwilson.com/tour/

UPDATE: July 11, 2013
Fans are asking what they can expect from Brian's upcoming shows. Well, we got the inside word from Paul Mertens, Brian's fantastic arranger and muli-instrumentalist:

"The shows are featuring all the hits that fans, both casual and serious, would expect, but we're also delving into some rare cuts as well, adding some songs that have rarely, if ever, been performed live.

We also have the opportunity to highlight Al and David's contribution to the Beach Boys music, particularly Al's vocal power and David's seminal surf guitar style.

Having had an extended break, Brian and the band are really stoked to get out and play!"

YESSS!!! I can't wait to see what this tour has in store! "Rarely, if ever, been performed live.". That's an amazing quote. Makes you wanna fall asleep just at the thought of M&B's boring setlist!

[Melt Away]

BOB LIZIK BACK ON BASS!!! This is really looking up! His live bass on IJWMFTT has always been a favorite for me!

[Nicko1234]

http://www.brianwilson.com/tour/

UPDATE: July 11, 2013
Fans are asking what they can expect from Brian's upcoming shows. Well, we got the inside word from Paul Mertens, Brian's fantastic arranger and muli-instrumentalist:

"The shows are featuring all the hits that fans, both casual and serious, would expect, but we're also delving into some rare cuts as well, adding some songs that have rarely, if ever, been performed live.

We also have the opportunity to highlight Al and David's contribution to the Beach Boys music, particularly Al's vocal power and David's seminal surf guitar style.

Having had an extended break, Brian and the band are really stoked to get out and play!"

YESSS!!! I can't wait to see what this tour has in store! "Rarely, if ever, been performed live.". That's an amazing quote. Makes you wanna fall asleep just at the thought of M&B's boring setlist!

Sounds very similar to recent Mike and Bruce shows actually.

[drbeachboy]

http://www.brianwilson.com/tour/

UPDATE: July 11, 2013
Fans are asking what they can expect from Brian's upcoming shows. Well, we got the inside word from Paul Mertens, Brian's fantastic arranger and muli-instrumentalist:

"The shows are featuring all the hits that fans, both casual and serious, would expect, but we're also delving into some rare cuts as well, adding some songs that have rarely, if ever, been performed live.

We also have the opportunity to highlight Al and David's contribution to the Beach Boys music, particularly Al's vocal power and David's seminal surf guitar style.

Having had an extended break, Brian and the band are really stoked to get out and play!"

YESSS!!! I can't wait to see what this tour has in store! "Rarely, if ever, been performed live.". That's an amazing quote. Makes you wanna fall asleep just at the thought of M&B's boring setlist!

We talk about this stuff in here constantly. Both bands do very similar shows. Both do the hits and both do deep cuts. As Al stated in a recent interview is that what's different is the presentation. Usually, the only thing that is really different in the setlist is the choice of deep cuts. These BAD shows should be very entertaining. I can't wait for Saturday evening to get here.

[leggo of my ego]

That is pure bullshit. Nobody is approving anything. Brian writes from his own frame of mind. He sees the world differently than most of us. In Love and Mercy, Brian might watch a crummy movie with his hand on his chin, bored stiff, but me, I just fall asleep like I did watching Les Miserables over the weekend. Brian is no phony, he is just different.

Isnt the movie "crummy" because of the violence portrayed in it?

At least thats always been my impression. I dont think any words are wasted in this song its
an appeal for peace, one of Brian's major messages in his work.

[drbeachboy]

That is pure bullshit. Nobody is approving anything. Brian writes from his own frame of mind. He sees the world differently than most of us. In Love and Mercy, Brian might watch a crummy movie with his hand on his chin, bored stiff, but me, I just fall asleep like I did watching Les Miserables over the weekend. Brian is no phony, he is just different.

Isnt the movie "crummy" because of the violence portrayed in it?

At least thats always been my impression. I dont think any words are wasted in this song its
an appeal for peace, one of Brian's major messages in his work.

Sure! It wasn't my point, though. Brian writes what he wants to write about, for his own reasons. He's not in a bubble with people telling him what he must write about. At least I think that was what I was responding about originally.

[leggo of my ego]

Sure! It wasn't my point, though. Brian writes what he wants to write about, for his own reasons. He's not in a bubble with people telling him what he must write about. At least I think that was what I was responding about originally.

Its cool, i was late to this thread and just used your post as a "springboard", no argument from me. 

[drbeachboy]

Sure! It wasn't my point, though. Brian writes what he wants to write about, for his own reasons. He's not in a bubble with people telling him what he must write about. At least I think that was what I was responding about originally.

Its cool, i was late to this thread and just used your post as a "springboard", no argument from me. 

I am always amazed that there people out there who think Brian is some kind of an marionette or something, with someone in background moving his mouth and speaking for him. While I don't deny that Brian may follow along if it benefits him, I think he knows exactly what he wants and how he feels. I think they call that being manipulative?

[ontor pertawst]

Without a doubt. A practiced manipulator and passive aggressive type. You can understand why, look at his family! Early success, people all around wanting a piece of you and always aiming for an angle, chaos swirling around.

 A bit like Warhol with that GEE WHIZ public front.

He liked having lackeys fire people too. Classic Good Brian/Bad Wifeandmanagers routine.

[JohnMill]

Sure! It wasn't my point, though. Brian writes what he wants to write about, for his own reasons. He's not in a bubble with people telling him what he must write about. At least I think that was what I was responding about originally.

Its cool, i was late to this thread and just used your post as a "springboard", no argument from me. 

I am always amazed that there people out there who think Brian is some kind of an marionette or something, with someone in background moving his mouth and speaking for him. While I don't deny that Brian may follow along if it benefits him, I think he knows exactly what he wants and how he feels. I think they call that being manipulative?

The issue seems to be Brian's indecisiveness at times which lends credence to the marionette theory.  There are a lot of Beach Boys fans who believe that Wilson is extremely susceptible to the power of suggestion and many of these same folks also believe that Wilson is a people pleaser and always has been.  A lot of this has been fortified by writings (accurate or inaccurate) dealing with how Wilson acquiesced at times to the demands of others instead of furthering his own desires.  That isn't to say he was a doormat so to speak but stories like taking "Time To Get Alone" away from Redwood because The Beach Boys wanted to record it are often cited as examples of Wilson ceding power to others.

There have also been stories that I've read on these forums particularly in regard to the recording of the GIOMH album where when Brian Wilson doesn't necessarily want to go along with a proposed plan he will attempt to sabotage the project by not giving it his full effort.  Therefore it has been said that in many cases Wilson will go along to get along but during the process of going along will intentionally torpedo the project at hand.  Some have also pointed to the belief that Wilson during the seventies intentionally harmed his voice by smoking copious amounts of cigarettes just to show others that he could do so if so pleased.  Now granted a great deal of this may be bollocks but all of this has come up many times in books, discussions and debates among Beach Boys scholars and fans. 

So personally I think that is why the marionette theory persists to this day among some fans, right or wrong.

[Wirestone]

Sure! It wasn't my point, though. Brian writes what he wants to write about, for his own reasons. He's not in a bubble with people telling him what he must write about. At least I think that was what I was responding about originally.

Its cool, i was late to this thread and just used your post as a "springboard", no argument from me. 

I am always amazed that there people out there who think Brian is some kind of an marionette or something, with someone in background moving his mouth and speaking for him. While I don't deny that Brian may follow along if it benefits him, I think he knows exactly what he wants and how he feels. I think they call that being manipulative?

The issue seems to be Brian's indecisiveness at times which lends credence to the marionette theory.  There are a lot of Beach Boys fans who believe that Wilson is extremely susceptible to the power of suggestion and many of these same folks also believe that Wilson is a people pleaser and always has been.  A lot of this has been fortified by writings (accurate or inaccurate) dealing with how Wilson acquiesced at times to the demands of others instead of furthering his own desires.  That isn't to say he was a doormat so to speak but stories like taking "Time To Get Alone" away from Redwood because The Beach Boys wanted to record it are often cited as examples of Wilson ceding power to others.

There have also been stories that I've read on these forums particularly in regard to the recording of the GIOMH album where when Brian Wilson doesn't necessarily want to go along with a proposed plan he will attempt to sabotage the project by not giving it his full effort.  Therefore it has been said that in many cases Wilson will go along to get along but during the process of going along will intentionally torpedo the project at hand.  Some have also pointed to the belief that Wilson during the seventies intentionally harmed his voice by smoking copious amounts of cigarettes just to show others that he could do so if so pleased.  Now granted a great deal of this may be bollocks but all of this has come up many times in books, discussions and debates among Beach Boys scholars and fans. 

So personally I think that is why the marionette theory persists to this day among some fans, right or wrong.

But part of what you write actually supports the point that Brian is manipulative. It is the definition of manipulative to self-sabotage, or half-ass  projects that you don't want to do. And Brian has definitely done his share of that.

It's also important to note that Brian is seriously, continuously mentally ill. At his untreated or mistreated worst (roughly his 30s-50s), that meant he really couldn't function fully. Sometimes, yes. Much of the time, no. And he's had his challenges in recent years too.

If Brian wants to continue being a professional musician, which he does, then he has to do certain things (write songs, record, play some shows, do some PR). And someone has to set that up and prod him toward those goals -- which he explicitly wants to do. There's no way the prodder can get things 100 percent right, 100 percent of the time in a scenario like that. The best that can be done is learn from past mistakes and move on, which I think Melinda has done.

[pancakerecords]

At the show. Great seats, third row on the Nicky side. David has already reared his head a couple of times.

[leggo of my ego]

At the show. Great seats, third row on the Nicky side. David has already reared his head a couple of times.

I can feel the excitement from here!!! - please report back later about which songs were performed. Hopefully
there will be some youtube stuff uploaded soon too!

[Wirestone]

Reports? Come on, someone!

[lee]

Someone over at the Brian community is at the show and posting.

Played so far (in no order):

Our Prayer
Heroes and Villains
Breakaway
Marcella
Little Bird (David)
Old Man River/Cottonfields (Al)
Please Let Me Wonder
California Girls
Girl Don't Tell Me
Don't Worry Baby (Jeff)
Do It Again
Summertime Blues (David)
Imagination
Let Him Run Wild (Jeff)
Going Home
That's Why God Made The Radio
Darlin' (Darian)
Pet Sounds
All Summer Long
Barbara Ann
Surfin' USA
Fun, Fun, Fun
Help Me Rhonda
Summer's Gone

[GoodToMyBaby]

That looks fake. But it's awesome if it isn't

[ontor pertawst]

Breakaway and Old Man River! Murry syncopates it from hebbin! Our Prayer in a casino... whaaa but John Q Blackjack Public wants da hits!

Over on the other board that person said: Al....."we may might not be the beach boys...but we are the heart and soul" everyone stood and clapped and tore the roof off the place....then he said "mike love must have heard me i just blew an amp".

Alan Jardine!

[Wirestone]

That looks fake. But it's awesome if it isn't

And why would it look fake? They're all songs the C50 band and Brian's group have played regularly (with the exception of spotlight numbers for Al and Dave).

[Wirestone]

Also Darian on Darlin' and Dave on Pet Sounds.

[Rocky Raccoon]

It looks like that in terms of setlist, Brian, Al, and Dave are one-upping Mike and Bruce in every possible way.

[ontor pertawst]

Al is gonna get buried in bras tonight.

[coco1997]

I was hoping to see something new in the setlist.

[Shady]

wow, if that set list is real 

[Phoenix]

Fingers crossed that it is!  That's fantastic!

[Gohi]

Not enough Al leads so far...
Great list though!