Tell us about your Beach Boys collection

[mikeddonn]

Cheers Alan, any recommendations regarding a decent turntable at a decent price.  I've got it hooked up to a good sound system.  But yeah, it's a turntable I had with my old stereo before I knew about variations in sound quality!

[feelsflow]

Thanks for the info and pics, bgas!

Hi metal flake paint and bgas,  I love what you guys have.  Why did they use the same picture over and over so much?  I don't collect music sheets, but a friend let me pick a couple of his.  And what did I choose?  Why Barbara Ann of course (the pale orange one), I do love that 45.  The other is one in bgas' collection - I'm a Big Todd fan, so Good Vibrations it was.  That Todd/Brian sketch is nowhere else I know of.  bgas, I guess you know that's really a Todd sheet And Barry's first three were okay, You got the Vogues one... and they're cool, right?  If I had one to pick from your stuff, it would be that Girl Don't Tell Me with the color pic.  I love that.                                                                  

EDIT:  Freddie I left you a note on my original post about the Holland lyric sheet.  back on page 7

[bgas]

Thanks for the info and pics, bgas!

Hi metal flake paint and bgas,  I love what you guys have.  Why did they use the same picture over and over so much?  I don't collect music sheets, but a friend let me pick a couple of his.  And what did I choose?  Why Barbara Ann of course (the pale orange one), I do love that 45.  The other is one in bgas' collection - I'm a Big Todd fan, so Good Vibrations it was.  That Todd/Brian sketch is nowhere else I know of.  bgas, I guess you know that's really a Todd sheet And Barry's first three were okay, You got the Vogues one... and they're cool, right?  If I had one to pick from your stuff, it would be that Girl Don't Tell Me with the color pic.  I love that.

A Todd Sheet?  No way!  Brian wrote it, and he's on the front. He simply let Todd have some of his glory for the day....

[feelsflow]

Thanks for the info and pics, bgas!

Hi metal flake paint and bgas,  I love what you guys have.  Why did they use the same picture over and over so much?  I don't collect music sheets, but a friend let me pick a couple of his.  And what did I choose?  Why Barbara Ann of course (the pale orange one), I do love that 45.  The other is one in bgas' collection - I'm a Big Todd fan, so Good Vibrations it was.  That Todd/Brian sketch is nowhere else I know of.  bgas, I guess you know that's really a Todd sheet And Barry's first three were okay, You got the Vogues one... and they're cool, right?  If I had one to pick from your stuff, it would be that Girl Don't Tell Me with the color pic.  I love that.

A Todd Sheet?  No way!  Brian wrote it, and he's on the front. He simply let Todd have some of his glory for the day....

right...

[bgas]

                                                           

EDIT:  Freddie I left you a note on my original post about the Holland lyric sheet.  back on page 7

 I could be mistaken, but I'm fairly certain thatwhat Smile-Holland ( Hi K!) meant, in reference to your edited note, was that his UK LP had the lyric sheet;
NOT that there was ever a lyric sheet for the EP.   (That's something that doesn't exist )
The Netherlands - CBS/Epic reissue of the LP  included the EP cuts on the LP, but no lyrics were included for the EP; The lyrics for the rest of the LP were printed on the back cover in such a way as to make one lose their eyesight if they try to read them. 
And Later editions of the US LP release include SOS lyrics on the lyric sheet. 

[smile-holland]

                                                           

EDIT:  Freddie I left you a note on my original post about the Holland lyric sheet.  back on page 7

I could be mistaken, but I'm fairly certain thatwhat Smile-Holland ( Hi K!) meant, in reference to your edited note, was that his UK LP had the lyric sheet;
NOT that there was ever a lyric sheet for the EP.   (That's something that doesn't exist )

Hey bg! That's correct. I was referring to the lyric sheet for the LP. There was no (separate) lyric sheet for the EP.

[feelsflow]

                                                           

EDIT:  Freddie I left you a note on my original post about the Holland lyric sheet.  back on page 7

I could be mistaken, but I'm fairly certain thatwhat Smile-Holland ( Hi K!) meant, in reference to your edited note, was that his UK LP had the lyric sheet;
NOT that there was ever a lyric sheet for the EP.   (That's something that doesn't exist )

Hey bg! That's correct. I was referring to the lyric sheet for the LP. There was no (separate) lyric sheet for the EP.

Hi Klaas and bgas,  When Freddie checks back in on this thread, he will surely be super clear where he stands on the lyric sheet deal.  I'm not sure why my UK copy has no lyric sheet or EP art sleeve, I got it sometime in the mid-80's.  I'm happy with my 1st pressing USA copy, even though it doesn't have the SOS lyric.  I know those words by heart anyway.  If I did buy it again, I'd get the Japan MLPS cd, and then have an interpretation of the words, as only those transcribers know how.

[Freddie French-Pounce]

Sorry, I had seen the replies, I just hadn't got around to replying yet!

So essentially, my initial question was if the UK Holland LP come with a lyric sheep insert, on top of the EP in picture sleeve. I THINK it seems I am missing a lyric sheet sadly, and... hang on a sec....

*searches eBay*

Question answered: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/THE-BEACH-BOYS-Holland-insert-REPRISE-1973-UK-press-/400417864359?pt=UK_Records&hash=item5d3ac3baa7
Now to see if i can justify paying £8.99 for a piece of paper. If anyone is interested in a cheap copy of the UK Holland LP w/o ( ) insert, let me know. [UK shipping only - over even better if you live near coventry or gravesend no shipping!]

[bgas]

Sorry, I had seen the replies, I just hadn't got around to replying yet!

So essentially, my initial question was if the UK Holland LP come with a lyric sheep insert, on top of the EP in picture sleeve. I THINK it seems I am missing a lyric sheet sadly, and... hang on a sec....

*searches eBay*

Question answered: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/THE-BEACH-BOYS-Holland-insert-REPRISE-1973-UK-press-/400417864359?pt=UK_Records&hash=item5d3ac3baa7
Now to see if i can justify paying £8.99 for a piece of paper. If anyone is interested in a cheap copy of the UK Holland LP w/o ( ) insert, let me know. [UK shipping only - over even better if you live near coventry or gravesend no shipping!]

Yah, I'd wait. You're bound to find one cheaper at a fair, or even on ebay.  £8.99 for a piece of paper is a bit steep. (leave that to the sooper anal collectors like myself)

[smile-holland]

Hi Klaas and bgas,  When Freddie checks back in on this thread, he will surely be super clear where he stands on the lyric sheet deal.  I'm not sure why my UK copy has no lyric sheet or EP art sleeve, I got it sometime in the mid-80's.  I'm happy with my 1st pressing USA copy, even though it doesn't have the SOS lyric.  I know those words by heart anyway.  If I did buy it again, I'd get the Japan MLPS cd, and then have an interpretation of the words, as only those transcribers know how.

I think most releases had the inlay included, whether with or without the SOS lyrics (depending on it being a later issue or not). I'm vry curious if we'll ever find an early testpressing which actually has the We Got Love lyrics included. After all, the empty space between the Saga- and Trader lyrics must have been intended for the WGL lyrics, right?

There are a few foreign pressings that didn't include the EP though: South Africa (even the writer credits on the sleeve at BW's pic are removed!), and I think Israël. The original Spanish release has the EP added to the LP. Same goes for the Epic vinyl reissues (both Dutch and Spanish pressing), with The Trader being shifted to side A.
O, and for later issues, the EP's picture sleeve was often replaced by a Warner of Reprise company sleeve.

If anyone is interested in a cheap copy of the UK Holland LP w/o ( ) insert, let me know. [UK shipping only - over even better if you live near coventry or gravesend no shipping!]

I already have too many UK copies without the insert    so I'll pass by on this one...

[bluesno1fann]

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[feelsflow]

Hi Klaas and bgas,  When Freddie checks back in on this thread, he will surely be super clear where he stands on the lyric sheet deal.  I'm not sure why my UK copy has no lyric sheet or EP art sleeve, I got it sometime in the mid-80's.  I'm happy with my 1st pressing USA copy, even though it doesn't have the SOS lyric.  I know those words by heart anyway.  If I did buy it again, I'd get the Japan MLPS cd, and then have an interpretation of the words, as only those transcribers know how.

I think most releases had the inlay included, whether with or without the SOS lyrics (depending on it being a later issue or not). I'm vry curious if we'll ever find an early testpressing which actually has the We Got Love lyrics included. After all, the empty space between the Saga- and Trader lyrics must have been intended for the WGL lyrics, right?

There are a few foreign pressings that didn't include the EP though: South Africa (even the writer credits on the sleeve at BW's pic are removed!), and I think Israël. The original Spanish release has the EP added to the LP. Same goes for the Epic vinyl reissues (both Dutch and Spanish pressing), with The Trader being shifted to side A.
O, and for later issues, the EP's picture sleeve was often replaced by a Warner of Reprise company sleeve.

Klaas,  You are on to something here.  The easiest way for the printing plant to change the plate, was to leave off SOS lyrics, and change the song list on the left side.  Notice too, that *side one* is not printed above Steamboat, that was removed as well.  Then remove the WGL lyrics from where they would have been in the running order.  simple.

Also of note, our UK copies have the p&c 1973, while the USA has p&c 1972.  I have a second USA copy in storage, and when I get a chance I'll check to see if that has a corrected lyric sheet that added SOS.  Hate to see the changing of order on those that added the EP to side two.  Those side a/b opener/closer songs meant a lot to an artist in the vinyl era.  So, LTT, now opens side two, right?       peace,  Will

[feelsflow]

Klaas,  Let me try that again.  You are on to something here.  The easiest way for the printing plant to change the plate, was to leave off SOS lyrics, and change the song list on the left side.  Notice too, that *side one*is not printed above Steamboat, that was removed as well.  Then remove the WGL lyrics from the second plate, where it would have been in the old running order. simple.

Also note, our UK copies have the p&c1973, while the USA p&c1972.  I have a second USA copy in storage, when I get a chance I'll check to see if it has a corrected lyric sheet that adds SOS.

Hate to see the changing of order on those that added the EP to side two.  Those side a/b opener/closer songs meant a lot to an artist in the vinyl era.  So LTT, now opened side two, right?

peace,  Will

[bgas]

Klaas,  Let me try that again.  You are on to something here.  The easiest way for the printing plant to change the plate, was to leave off SOS lyrics, and change the song list on the left side.  Notice too, that *side one*is not printed above Steamboat, that was removed as well.  Then remove the WGL lyrics from the second plate, where it would have been in the old running order. simple.

Also note, our UK copies have the p&c1973, while the USA p&c1972.  I have a second USA copy in storage, when I get a chance I'll check to see if it has a corrected lyric sheet that adds SOS.

Hate to see the changing of order on those that added the EP to side two.  Those side a/b opener/closer songs meant a lot to an artist in the vinyl era.  So LTT, now opened side two, right?

peace,  Will

 Your point on the opener/closers would be more apt, if not for the original lineup the BBs submitted ( rejected)  and then had  to add SOS; But evidently not in time to get the lyric/credit sheets reprinted.
I wonder if  there ever was a lyric sheet setup including WGL; That change was made before the LP ever got to the pressing stage. The only reason SOME  German copies have WGL is their using the wrong master, tho they had already been sent the revised version.  


What are you on about with the dates?  Looking at my copies, all the covers have a 1972 date, while all the labels have 1973.  I believe there may be a few test pressings out , with 1972 labels

OH!  LTT does open Side 2 on the versions with EP on the LP

[smile-holland]

Your point on the opener/closers would be more apt, if not for the original lineup the BBs submitted ( rejected)  and then had  to add SOS; But evidently not in time to get the lyric/credit sheets reprinted.  Steamboat was to open Side one and WGL close. ( the sheet for the test press: )

     

I wonder if  there ever was a lyric sheet setup including WGL; That change was made before the LP ever got to the pressing stage. The only reason SOME  German copies have WGL is their using the wrong master, tho they had already been sent the revised version. 

What are you on about with the dates?  Looking at my copies, all the covers have a 1972 date, while all the labels have 1973.  I believe there may be a few test pressings out , with 1972 labels

OH!  LTT does open Side 2 on the versions with EP on the LP

Yep, bgas is right about that. SOS and WGL were never intended to be on one album. WGL was removed from side A (last track), and replaced by SO which was added as the opening track on side, thus shifting the rest of the tracklist.

In addition to that.
- I have never seen a lyric sheet with WGL lyrics either, even the testpressings I have and have a lyric sheet included (and of which I wonder if that was authentic to begin with) don’t show those lyrics. But what other explanation could there be for the empty space on that sheet between Saga and Trader? Perhaps we should try to

- That 1973 notation is strange. Looks like that early in the process it was decided to release the album earlier than originally scheduled. After that they changed the date notation (1973 > 1972)… But perhaps – due to the change of songs and line-up the release date was delayed again and we ended up with a release in Jan. 1973 all the same. By then they had clearly forgotten about the 1972 date on the label. Anyway, I’ll check my test pressings of the Holland album on the date notation.

And lastly: try playing this album in it’s original line-up. It’s a totally different listening experience if you start listening to Holland with Steamboat fading in on side A.

[mikeddonn]

And in typical Beach Boys fashion they would have left SOS off the album, only for us to have just heard it for the first time on Made in California!  . What would Ray Charles have sang at the 25th Anniversary Concert?!

[Freddie French-Pounce]

And in typical Beach Boys fashion they would have left SOS off the album, only for us to have just heard it for the first time on Made in California!  . What would Ray Charles have sang at the 25th Anniversary Concert?!

The point was at this point Sail On, Sailor wasn't complete. The record company wanted more 'accessible' and 'commercial' materiel on the LP.

[correct me if I'm wrong]

[feelsflow]

Klaas,  Let me try that again.  You are on to something here.  The easiest way for the printing plant to change the plate, was to leave off SOS lyrics, and change the song list on the left side.  Notice too, that *side one*is not printed above Steamboat, that was removed as well.  Then remove the WGL lyrics from the second plate, where it would have been in the old running order. simple.

Also note, our UK copies have the p&c1973, while the USA p&c1972.  I have a second USA copy in storage, when I get a chance I'll check to see if it has a corrected lyric sheet that adds SOS.

Hate to see the changing of order on those that added the EP to side two.  Those side a/b opener/closer songs meant a lot to an artist in the vinyl era.  So LTT, now opened side two, right?

peace,  Will

 Your point on the opener/closers would be more apt, if not for the original lineup the BBs submitted ( rejected)  and then had  to add SOS; But evidently not in time to get the lyric/credit sheets reprinted.  Steamboat was to open Side one and WGL close. ( the sheet for the test press: )

    

I wonder if  there ever was a lyric sheet setup including WGL; That change was made before the LP ever got to the pressing stage. The only reason SOME  German copies have WGL is their using the wrong master, tho they had already been sent the revised version.  


What are you on about with the dates?  Looking at my copies, all the covers have a 1972 date, while all the labels have 1973.  I believe there may be a few test pressings out , with 1972 labels

OH!  LTT does open Side 2 on the versions with EP on the LP

bgas,  You are just not reading what I said.  I said THE SECOND PRESSING PLATE - for the REVERSE SIDE of the lyric sheet, not that WGL was the SECOND SIDE opener.  WGL was the original side-a closer, I didn't say it wasn't.  I thought that was SMiLE-Hollands whole point.  Why the gap above what is listed SIDE TWO/The Trader on the reverse side of the lyric sheet.  If the original lyric plate was not already set, then why didn't they put SOS on it?  As you say, that it was put on later releases.  Because to add SOS to the lyric sheet, both SHEET PLATES would have to have been re-set.  I don't have one of the corrected, with SOS, sheets in front of me,  but they would have either had to make it smaller lettering, or put one of the Saga (On My Way To...) lyrics on the reverse side of the sheet, where the gap is.  Pressing plates (for the lyrics) are done by hand, one letter at a time in reverse order, it's no easy task.  And that is why the gap is there.  The simple way to correct the plates.  They just removed that part of the plate, and removed the lettering denoting SIDE ONE above Steamboat, moved the left side down a bit to include SOS to the track list.  fixed.  If they had already "printed" the lyric sheet, as you say, didn't want to "reprint" it, then WGL would have been ON the lyric sheet, not a blank spot.  And I have seen those kind of errors go-slide before on other releases.  The image you are showing is for the label, no?  Was there a "test pressing" lyric sheet?  My comment on the date was just something I noticed on my UK copy vs my USA copy, (when Klaas was talking about the changing the back cover for the EP/side two version) all my labels have 1973. I didn't know if Klaas had a USA copy, he probably has several. Again, my USA copy says 1972 on the back cover.  The idea was to get it out by Christmas, sure that's what Reprise wanted.  Do you have a UK copy to check?  I have never seen the EP on side two variation, my "?" was a comment, figured as much.  Now, have we been as anal as possible about all this?  You know bgas, I know you have been around here forever, and love to stir pots, but please...

let's have world peace first,  Will

   

[smile-holland]

- That 1973 notation is strange. Looks like that early in the process it was decided to release the album earlier than originally scheduled. After that they changed the date notation (1973 > 1972)… But perhaps – due to the change of songs and line-up the release date was delayed again and we ended up with a release in Jan. 1973 all the same. By then they had clearly forgotten about the 1972 date on the label. Anyway, I’ll check my test pressings of the Holland album on the date notation.

Update: just checked all test pressings I have. Just plain white labels, no date notation. The UK one does on the sleeve though, but it says 1972.

[bgas]

bgas,  You are just not reading what I said.  I said THE SECOND PRESSING PLATE - for the REVERSE SIDE of the lyric sheet, not that WGL was the SECOND SIDE opener.  WGL was the original side-a closer, I didn't say it wasn't.  I thought that was SMiLE-Hollands whole point.  Why the gap above what is listed SIDE TWO/The Trader on the reverse side of the lyric sheet.  If the original lyric plate was not already set, then why didn't they put SOS on it?  As you say, that it was put on later releases.  Because to add SOS to the lyric sheet, both SHEET PLATES would have to have been re-set.  I don't have one of the corrected, with SOS, sheets in front of me,  but they would have either had to make it smaller lettering, or put one of the Saga (On My Way To...) lyrics on the reverse side of the sheet, where the gap is.  Pressing plates (for the lyrics) are done by hand, one letter at a time in reverse order, it's no easy task.  And that is why the gap is there.  The simple way to correct the plates.  They just removed that part of the plate, and removed the lettering denoting SIDE ONE above Steamboat, moved the left side down a bit to include SOS to the track list.  fixed.  If they had already "printed" the lyric sheet, as you say, didn't want to "reprint" it, then WGL would have been ON the lyric sheet, not a blank spot.  And I have seen those kind of errors go-slide before on other releases.  The image you are showing is for the label, no?  Was there a "test pressing" lyric sheet?  My comment on the date was just something I noticed on my UK copy vs my USA copy, (when Klaas was talking about the changing the back cover for the EP/side two version) all my labels have 1973. I didn't know if Klaas had a USA copy, he probably has several. Again, my USA copy says 1972 on the back cover.  The idea was to get it out by Christmas, sure that's what Capitol wanted.  Do you have a UK copy to check?  I have never seen the EP on side two variation, my "?" was a comment, figured as much.  Now, have we been as anal as possible about all this?  You know bgas, I know you have been around here forever, and love to stir pots, but please...

let's have world peace first,  Will

   
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Stirring the pot?  Nope, don't need to. 
I have, by no means, the definitive collection here, ( used to be Bas, maybe its SH now, or someone else) I don't know, but: 
My collection has: issues from Australia,Canada, France, Germany( w & w/o WGL), Holland9 original and w/ EP on LP)  12 USA copies( 2 sealed, 1 promo, 7 of different variations and cover stickers, 2 Test pressings 1 w/ and 1 w/o WGL)  plus the AFRTS one sided w/ 5 tracks, and many reels, cassettes, 8 tracks;    2 UK ( 1 blank label promo w/ WGL, 1 stock  ) and two copies from (Israel?/somewhere, I don't remember)  I'm sure there are other countries I don't have. (What i'd really like is a USA capitol Record club issue)

I looked again and every cover that has a date has 1972 except England which has 1973. All the labels have 1973. 
Thinking about the whole dating thing, it's probably best to remember that there are "rumored" to be different versions of some Holland songs included in the original film of "Five Summer Stories" ( as far as I know, no copies have been found of the original release to verify)  but as the sessions weren't until later for most of the tracks, I don't see amuch earlier LP release 

The plot thickens even further with the recently surfaced report that "Sail On Sailor" (along with "The Trader" and the third part of the "California Saga" suite) was given by Brian to the producers of the cult surfer film "Five Summer Stories", and was used in the soundtrack of that movie, which premiered no later than June 1972...a full five months before those Village Recorders sessions!  Subsequent prints used for the VHS and DVD home video releases replaced the Beach Boys' music with that of the band Honk (who toured with The Beach Boys and recorded at Brother Studios), but early VHS and DVD copies do contain the Boys' music; the versions of these songs used in the film's soundtrack (at least on these VHS and DVD versions) are said to be identical to the mixes released on Holland (although in some cases edited down in length).  The only logical explanation for that would be that the film, when it premiered in the first half of 1972, contained some recent Beach Boys' music (likely from the Surf's Up and So Tough albums), but not the three Holland tracks...these were presumably added to the soundtrack for a later theatrical re-release, possibly in late '72 (which would still be prior to the Holland album's offical release in January '73).

Craig - Wow!  Thanks for coming up with a well-researched and detailed chronology for SOS. 

I do, however, recall that when I first saw Five Summer Stories in June of 72 (in a high school auditorium) that some of the Beach Boys material I heard in the film was unreleased stuff I'd never heard before.  When I next saw the movie, in a theater in May 73 (and again when the film was expanded in 1976 as "Five Summer Stories Plus Four") the BB stuff was still there, and I then realized that the unreleased material I had heard on the original film had now been released on Holland. 

I'm doubting that the Holland material was added to the film at a later date.  It is certainly possible that the unreleased songs from the original movie were early mixes and were later replaced with released versions, although one has to wonder why and if they would have gone to the trouble to do so.  But, if that's the case it could help make some of the timeline discrepancies a little less murky, although it would still indicate that SOS, The Trader, and Calif Saga Part Three were either in fairly complete, if not entirely complete, form when FSS premiered in March of 1972.

Most of the music on Five Summer Stories is from the band Honk, and the official soundtrack contains only the music of Honk (12 songs, 34 minutes, a very enjoyable CD).  I first bought the soundtrack album in Aug 72 and replaced it with the CD version 20 years later.  Both the VHS and DVD versions of Five Summer Stories that I purchased have the BBs music intact, although there are some VHS version reviews on Amazon stating that the original music has been replaced with more modern material.

As far as referencing the song order, I was speaking to your statement about the change in song order as selected by the artist. You referenced the change w/SOS, and I mentioned that obviously the BBs had planned to lead w/ Steamboat. The SOS decision evidently was made by WB. 
here's the revised US lyrics sheet, ( hope it's visible) SOS was added to the Side 2 page, above TRader; but clearly, as you've mentioned, it does have Side one above it. Which makes me wonder why they didn't just include it originally and push Steamboat down... 

   

Did I miss anything?  Oh yeah ( and NTSTP)  but it was released on Reprise , not Capitol

[feelsflow]

bgas,  Another mistake, sorry.  I changed that.  Yes, Reprise, not Capitol.  I'll try to proofread better in the future.  It was dinner bell, and I was typing too fast.  I had some trouble getting the first try to post, and had to type it in twice.  The same thing happened to me yesterday.  I'm not perfect.  I am just a fan.  I hope to be accepted on this board as just that.  I try not to make spelling errors, but I will make memory mistakes.  I'm thinking more about my label mistake than focusing on the lyric sheet.  Some here take any slip-up as offence.  It's hard to tell  when someone is having a go, or just trying to be funny.  Both, I'm sure.  I honestly don't know why, even after seeing your revised image, that they would reprint the lyric sheet like that.  If I am seeing it clearly, they have put SOS in the gap, instead of fixing the sheet outright.  I bow humbly, to your thoroughly researched collector knowledge.  I made what I thought was an innocent post agreeing with SMiLE-Holland about a lyric sheet decision, and how I thought he was right.  I am here to learn more about this band I have loved for many, many years.  

[smile-holland]

I'm not perfect.  I am just a fan.  I hope to be accepted on this board as just that.  I try not to make spelling errors, but I will make memory mistakes.  < ..... > I made what I thought was an innocent post agreeing with SMiLE-Holland about a lyric sheet decision, and how I thought he was right.  I am here to learn more about this band I have loved for many, many years. 

We all aren't perfect, feelsflow (and our collections aren't either  ) no need to apologise. We all try to learn more here.

As for the definite Holland collection: I think Bas's and my collection together make a pretty large (but probably not complete by a long shot) set of vinyl pressings. But bgas still has the biggest set of the more unusual releases, on 8 tracks, reels, cassettes, etc., I'm sure. Maybe we should make a inventory of what we have already. You'll notice that there's no BB album that was released in so many different versions, as Holland was.

[feelsflow]

SMiLE-Holland,  Thank you for your kind words.  I have never been the kind of collector that many on this board are.  I only bought the UK copy in hope of better sound.  Have many from Japan, Germany, and Holland too, as those countries were known for their pressing plants.  I treasure what I have chose to keep.  I just tossed 4 & 8 tracks, that was car stuff to me.  Reels, that was the 70's, gone.  My new car came with a CD player, the dash is really a computer, so cassettes too, gone, except for some old live stuff from the radio and DVD-to-tape collection - I have a NAD double-deck, I got back in 1999 for that.  My home set-up is beyond great, sound is where it's at.  Technology moves on, we keep buying the same stuff over and over.  Bless those little suits.  My collecting now is for sound upgrades and packaging, I'm very into MLPS from Japan. My collection will go to people who will just sell it. I'm here to chat and share with fans and others I admire.  And to have fun.  That I am.

peace,  Will

[slippingonthrough]

I'm a new collector so this is all I have so far:


I'm gonna get the SMiLE Sessions box set soon.

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