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[Cam Mott]

Brian wanted to do old songs [Four Freshman?]. Mike wanted them to get in a room together and write new songs.

but what actually happened was we DID get an album of original material, some of it written very recently. Mike WAS given the opportunity to collaborate with Brian and he turned in Beaches in Mind and Spring Vacation. as for Mike not being able to get Brian alone in a room... maybe there's a reason for that. I don't know too many people who would want to be closed up in a room with the Lovester. do you?

Regardless of our opinions, Brian wanted to do old stuff and Mike wanted to write new stuff. We will have to deal with it.

[Cam Mott]

Yeah, Brian doesn't get his butt kissed enough. It's always been a big problem.

But it's no big problem for you to keep kissin mYke's behind every chance you get, right Cam? Huh? Huh? Got your tix for every M&B show this summer? Don't worry, you're in mYke's will.

Right, there is too much pointing out reality about Mike. It's always been a big problem.

[The Shift]

Was California Myth updated and republished? How could I have missed that one?

[Andrew G. Doe]

Yeah, Brian doesn't get his butt kissed enough. It's always been a big problem.

But it's no big problem for you to keep kissin mYke's behind every chance you get, right Cam? Huh? Huh? Got your tix for every M&B show this summer? Don't worry, you're in mYke's will.

I believe the term for this kind of consistent behavior is "pathological". Iffn I didn't know better, I'd wager the poster was somewhere between 12 and 15 - as indeed they are, in terms of emotional and intellectual development. Very sad.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Was California Myth updated and republished? How could I have missed that one?

You probably had better things to be doing in 1985.

[Cam Mott]

What was this thread about again? It seems to mostly be people vilifying Mike Love even though he has nothing to do with this project and the professor pining away for a Beach Boys album that isn't going to happen whilst incessantly referring to himself in the first person.

Whatever Brian is working on I hope it turns out well and makes him happy, he doesn't owe anyone, and that includes fans and The Beach Boys, anything.

Mike is "again" being made the villian here because Brian had stated he wanted to make another BB album this year and, because of Mike, the album being made isn't one.

If people hate Mike so much, why do they all want him on the album?

Who still has a voice that resembles their younger selves between Brian and Mike? Hands down Mike.

Rider, in my opinon you need to either tell this story publically or stop referring to it.  Cheers.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

What was this thread about again? It seems to mostly be people vilifying Mike Love even though he has nothing to do with this project and the professor pining away for a Beach Boys album that isn't going to happen whilst incessantly referring to himself in the first person.

Whatever Brian is working on I hope it turns out well and makes him happy, he doesn't owe anyone, and that includes fans and The Beach Boys, anything.

Mike is "again" being made the villian here because Brian had stated he wanted to make another BB album this year and, because of Mike, the album being made isn't one.

If people hate Mike so much, why do they all want him on the album?

Who still has a voice that resembles their younger selves between Brian and Mike? Hands down Mike.

Rider, in my opinon you need to either tell this story publically or stop referring to it.  Cheers.

I have no story about Mike's voice being better preserved than Brians', nor do I have a story as to why Mike might or might not want to make another Beach Boys album.

Think I covered all your quotes.  A little long in the publically today Cam?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNsulymGkOE
Back to Mike bashing.  Even Blondie Chaplin seems to have less than a high opinion of Mike. 

[Cam Mott]

What was this thread about again? It seems to mostly be people vilifying Mike Love even though he has nothing to do with this project and the professor pining away for a Beach Boys album that isn't going to happen whilst incessantly referring to himself in the first person.

Whatever Brian is working on I hope it turns out well and makes him happy, he doesn't owe anyone, and that includes fans and The Beach Boys, anything.

Mike is "again" being made the villian here because Brian had stated he wanted to make another BB album this year and, because of Mike, the album being made isn't one.

If people hate Mike so much, why do they all want him on the album?

I've met the man and the experience was distasteful!  But on the other hand, he has his talents, is a great front man and  having all the BBs together, their voices, is better than individual parts.

Yep, I quoted the wrong post. This story is what I was referring to.

[Cam Mott]

Al doesn't have anything to do with Brian's project. Those photos are Al still trying to get Brian to record "Waves of Love". They didn't put up the one of Al being escorted from the building.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

What was this thread about again? It seems to mostly be people vilifying Mike Love even though he has nothing to do with this project and the professor pining away for a Beach Boys album that isn't going to happen whilst incessantly referring to himself in the first person.

Whatever Brian is working on I hope it turns out well and makes him happy, he doesn't owe anyone, and that includes fans and The Beach Boys, anything.

Mike is "again" being made the villian here because Brian had stated he wanted to make another BB album this year and, because of Mike, the album being made isn't one.

If people hate Mike so much, why do they all want him on the album?

I've met the man and the experience was distasteful!  But on the other hand, he has his talents, is a great front man and  having all the BBs together, their voices, is better than individual parts.

Yep, I quoted the wrong post. This story is what I was referring to.

Why Cam, I've already PM'd you about it several times.  As have I anyone who has written me about it.

But not god enough for you?

I am surprised you want to publicly soil the reputation of your idol.

[Cam Mott]

What was this thread about again? It seems to mostly be people vilifying Mike Love even though he has nothing to do with this project and the professor pining away for a Beach Boys album that isn't going to happen whilst incessantly referring to himself in the first person.

Whatever Brian is working on I hope it turns out well and makes him happy, he doesn't owe anyone, and that includes fans and The Beach Boys, anything.

Mike is "again" being made the villian here because Brian had stated he wanted to make another BB album this year and, because of Mike, the album being made isn't one.

If people hate Mike so much, why do they all want him on the album?

I've met the man and the experience was distasteful!  But on the other hand, he has his talents, is a great front man and  having all the BBs together, their voices, is better than individual parts.

Yep, I quoted the wrong post. This story is what I was referring to.

Why Cam, I've already PM'd you about it several times.  As have I anyone who has written me about it.

But not god enough for you?

I am surprised you want to publicly soil the reputation of your idol.

Again, I respectfully encourage you to post the story or stop referring to it.

[SMiLE Brian]

I know the story, it really speaks to ML's character.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

What was this thread about again? It seems to mostly be people vilifying Mike Love even though he has nothing to do with this project and the professor pining away for a Beach Boys album that isn't going to happen whilst incessantly referring to himself in the first person.

Whatever Brian is working on I hope it turns out well and makes him happy, he doesn't owe anyone, and that includes fans and The Beach Boys, anything.

Mike is "again" being made the villian here because Brian had stated he wanted to make another BB album this year and, because of Mike, the album being made isn't one.

If people hate Mike so much, why do they all want him on the album?

I've met the man and the experience was distasteful!  But on the other hand, he has his talents, is a great front man and  having all the BBs together, their voices, is better than individual parts.

Yep, I quoted the wrong post. This story is what I was referring to.

Why Cam, I've already PM'd you about it several times.  As have I anyone who has written me about it.

But not god enough for you?

I am surprised you want to publicly soil the reputation of your idol.

Again, I respectfully encourage you to post the story or stop referring to it.

Not gonna happen and that's an idiotic suggestion Cam. My opinion is mine to express as I please.  I don't ask you to stop your Mike Love hero worship now do I?

In fact,  please do tell us how much you luv the Lovester and how, when you met him, he autographed your "Made in Paradise" CD.

[drbeachboy]

I know the story, it really speaks to ML's character.

I'm sure.  

[The Shift]

Was California Myth updated and republished? How could I have missed that one?

You probably had better things to be doing in 1985.

Just wondering why the yet-again renewed wave of anti-Mhrikste…

[SurfRiderHawaii]

Was California Myth updated and republished? How could I have missed that one?

You probably had better things to be doing in 1985.

Just wondering why the yet-again renewed wave of anti-Mhrikste…

Not sure, I posted several complimentary remarks.

But now that we are at it, thought I'd re-post Mike's Eugene rant from the C50.  Pissed off alot of Oregon Duck fans and made a fool out of himself. You can see the band is embarrassed by Mr. Positivity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbdNKf2S2t0&feature=channel&list=UL

[Cam Mott]

What was this thread about again? It seems to mostly be people vilifying Mike Love even though he has nothing to do with this project and the professor pining away for a Beach Boys album that isn't going to happen whilst incessantly referring to himself in the first person.

Whatever Brian is working on I hope it turns out well and makes him happy, he doesn't owe anyone, and that includes fans and The Beach Boys, anything.

Mike is "again" being made the villian here because Brian had stated he wanted to make another BB album this year and, because of Mike, the album being made isn't one.

If people hate Mike so much, why do they all want him on the album?

I've met the man and the experience was distasteful!  But on the other hand, he has his talents, is a great front man and  having all the BBs together, their voices, is better than individual parts.

Yep, I quoted the wrong post. This story is what I was referring to.

Why Cam, I've already PM'd you about it several times.  As have I anyone who has written me about it.

But not god enough for you?

I am surprised you want to publicly soil the reputation of your idol.

Again, I respectfully encourage you to post the story or stop referring to it.

Not gonna happen and that's an idiotic suggestion Cam. My opinion is mine to express as I please.  I don't ask you to stop your Mike Love hero worship now do I?

In fact,  please do tell us how much you luv the Lovester and how, when you met him, he autographed your "Made in Paradise" CD.

You may do as you wish. Your opinion is your opinion, your Mike story is your opinion as I understood it.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

What was this thread about again? It seems to mostly be people vilifying Mike Love even though he has nothing to do with this project and the professor pining away for a Beach Boys album that isn't going to happen whilst incessantly referring to himself in the first person.

Whatever Brian is working on I hope it turns out well and makes him happy, he doesn't owe anyone, and that includes fans and The Beach Boys, anything.

Mike is "again" being made the villian here because Brian had stated he wanted to make another BB album this year and, because of Mike, the album being made isn't one.

If people hate Mike so much, why do they all want him on the album?

I've met the man and the experience was distasteful!  But on the other hand, he has his talents, is a great front man and  having all the BBs together, their voices, is better than individual parts.

Yep, I quoted the wrong post. This story is what I was referring to.

Why Cam, I've already PM'd you about it several times.  As have I anyone who has written me about it.

But not god enough for you?

I am surprised you want to publicly soil the reputation of your idol.

Again, I respectfully encourage you to post the story or stop referring to it.

Not gonna happen and that's an idiotic suggestion Cam. My opinion is mine to express as I please.  I don't ask you to stop your Mike Love hero worship now do I?

In fact,  please do tell us how much you luv the Lovester and how, when you met him, he autographed your "Made in Paradise" CD.

You may do as you wish. Your opinion is your opinion, your Mike story is your opinion as I understood it.

My opinion is based on personal interaction and real life experience. That and all my observations of him and the band over the years.
I grew up in Redondo Beach and the Beach Boys were from our area, they were our band.  I used to play Stan Love in pick-up basketball.

Anyway, here is a Mike Love hate blog that bashers  can read while we be get back to Brian's new music news.
http://manvsclown.wordpress.com/2006/07/21/why-i-hate-mike-love/

Included are comments by Mike's brother Steve who apparently does not like the brother Lovester either.

For a teaser, here is Mike's brother Steve talking about Mike,

 "Steve Love on November 28, 2012 said:

People:

I notice that the traffic on this blog has been pretty light of late. I thought there would be an upsurge in activity after the news broke that Mike has fired Brian, Alan and David Marks and has elected to go forward with just Bruce and his backup band. I see this as a blatant money grab. Mike is an exceedingly greedy person and is not into sharing the concert tour revenue pie with the others. Also, I heard through the grapevine that Mike did not like touring with Brian because while Mike prances around onstage and does his peacock thing, Brian sits at his piano in an oftentimes zombie-like state while Mike is doing the heavy lifting performance-wise and this irks the heck out of Mike. The fact of the matter is that no matter what Mike does he is never going to get the love and adulation from the audiences that our super-talented cousin Brian receives by merely showing up."

and this is a beauty:

"Steve Love on September 29, 2012 said:

I cannot disagree with you, Statto. He is a good frontman – I’ve always said that – but a huge disappointment as a person. I know him better than most and I can vouch that the vitriol is warranted. He thinks he is so enlightened because he practices TM. He failed to grasp the “right action” aspect of the Eastern religious teachings. Huge hypocrite, that guy.

[Cam Mott]

What was this thread about again? It seems to mostly be people vilifying Mike Love even though he has nothing to do with this project and the professor pining away for a Beach Boys album that isn't going to happen whilst incessantly referring to himself in the first person.

Whatever Brian is working on I hope it turns out well and makes him happy, he doesn't owe anyone, and that includes fans and The Beach Boys, anything.

Mike is "again" being made the villian here because Brian had stated he wanted to make another BB album this year and, because of Mike, the album being made isn't one.

If people hate Mike so much, why do they all want him on the album?

I've met the man and the experience was distasteful!  But on the other hand, he has his talents, is a great front man and  having all the BBs together, their voices, is better than individual parts.

Yep, I quoted the wrong post. This story is what I was referring to.

Why Cam, I've already PM'd you about it several times.  As have I anyone who has written me about it.

But not god enough for you?

I am surprised you want to publicly soil the reputation of your idol.

Again, I respectfully encourage you to post the story or stop referring to it.

Not gonna happen and that's an idiotic suggestion Cam. My opinion is mine to express as I please.  I don't ask you to stop your Mike Love hero worship now do I?

In fact,  please do tell us how much you luv the Lovester and how, when you met him, he autographed your "Made in Paradise" CD.

You may do as you wish. Your opinion is your opinion, your Mike story is your opinion as I understood it.

My opinion is based on personal interaction and real life experience. That and all my observations of him and the band over the years.
I grew up in Redondo Beach and the Beach Boys were from our area, they were our band.  I used to play Stan Love in pick-up basketball.

Anyway, here is a Mike Love hate blog that bashers  can read while we be get back to Brian's new music news.
http://manvsclown.wordpress.com/2006/07/21/why-i-hate-mike-love/

Included are comments by Mike's brother Steve who apparently does not like the brother Lovester either.

Fair enough, and I'm not saying they are untrue I don't know, but the accusations in the story are not something you witnessed.

[Mike's Beard]

Anyway, here is a Mike Love hate blog that bashers  can read while we be get back to Brian's new music news.
http://manvsclown.wordpress.com/2006/07/21/why-i-hate-mike-love/

Included are comments by Mike's brother Steve who apparently does not like the brother Lovester either.

For a teaser, here is Mike's brother Steve talking about Mike,

 "Steve Love on November 28, 2012 said:

People:

I notice that the traffic on this blog has been pretty light of late. I thought there would be an upsurge in activity after the news broke that Mike has fired Brian, Alan and David Marks and has elected to go forward with just Bruce and his backup band. I see this as a blatant money grab. Mike is an exceedingly greedy person and is not into sharing the concert tour revenue pie with the others. Also, I heard through the grapevine that Mike did not like touring with Brian because while Mike prances around onstage and does his peacock thing, Brian sits at his piano in an oftentimes zombie-like state while Mike is doing the heavy lifting performance-wise and this irks the heck out of Mike. The fact of the matter is that no matter what Mike does he is never going to get the love and adulation from the audiences that our super-talented cousin Brian receives by merely showing up."

and this is a beauty:

"Steve Love on September 29, 2012 said:

I cannot disagree with you, Statto. He is a good frontman – I’ve always said that – but a huge disappointment as a person. I know him better than most and I can vouch that the vitriol is warranted. He thinks he is so enlightened because he practices TM. He failed to grasp the “right action” aspect of the Eastern religious teachings. Huge hypocrite, that guy.

I just had a look on said blog and I have never seen so many retards post on one site before.

[gfac22]

Could the last six pages or so of posts be moved to a separate "lol mike love sucks" thread?  I'd hate for, you know, actual "studio news" to slip through the cracks and confuse everyone.

[Phoenix]

I know Mike has the exclusive license to the band's name for touring purposes but is there anything to prevent Brian from using the Beach Boys name for an album without Mike, provided Carl's estate sided with Brian and Al to outvote Mike three to one?  If that's the case, maybe we COULD get a new Beach Boys album.

I'm not au fait with the small print of the Love License, but I'd say to do that, the whole license would need to be re-written, which would result in M&B not being able to tour as the BB, which would seriously damage the revenue stream. So, ask yourself - would, say, Carl's estate think "OK, the guys need to record an album without Mike as The Beach Boys, but that would stop my income of $xxx,xxx a year for a possible return of, say, $xx,xxx over a few weeks". Seriously, would YOU vote for that ?

Salient point - the others could called an EGM of BRI at any time over the last decade or more to address this (in the eyes of some fans) 'problem'. That they haven't should tell you all you need to know. M&B touring as the BB = guaranteed and substantial income. End of.

Thanks for the reply, Andrew.  I agree with you in regards to the situation presented so I'm sure Carl's estate would too (since they'd stand to make much more from the standing agreement than I).  I just thought Mike might only hold the license for touring/personal appearances and the name might be a separate entity in regards to recording.  If that's the case, the representative from Carl's estate would more than likely side with Brian and Al, as they would stand to make "free" money from a new "Beach Boys" album, that was being kept off the table from Mike non-participation.  Either way, I appreciate the logical insight.

[Cam Mott]

Really, why would they vote Mike out regardless of how much he made or even cost? If they had grounds to vote anybody out it would be Al, yet there he is in reunion and album.

[Ziggy Stardust]

Mike Love did Summer In Paradise without Brian Wilson, right? so why the opposite would be impossible or has to be "people hatin' Mike Love"?
i don't see the problem with doing that.. i could see an inspired album à la That Lucky Old Sun with some songs from the others thrown in there, Al still has a great voice and can write some lovely stuff as he did over the decades in the Beach Boys but even on his solo album, if i remember correctly, and David seems to have some cool songs here and there, i liked that one he tried to put on That's Why God Made The Radio.

And if the rest comes in, well i don't mind if Mike Love brings a nice song like Daybreak and if Bruce has a nice ballad to offer...

[Mike's Beard]

Could the last six pages or so of posts be moved to a separate "lol mike love sucks" thread?  I'd hate for, you know, actual "studio news" to slip through the cracks and confuse everyone.

Every thread no matter what the subject seems to turn into a "Mike Love sucks" thread these days, as sure as day follows night.