Is Bruce an original member? No? Well, Mike's website claims he is.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

But Bruce just IS  a Beach Boy! Just look at him and listen to his voice! If this guy wasn't born to be a Beach Boys, I dunno who was!

I meant more from a fan's perspective and why people question his membership.

SMiLE Brian - I gotta agree with Pinder Goes To Kokomo.  When the Band needed a replacement for Brian (after Glenn Campbell) they got it right with someone who actually did surf music, and had some credentials, and did surf, which never got the airplay, that Dennis got.  He seems to really enjoy the gigs, goes out of his way, always for the special needs fans, and, keeps the audience engaged, while taking the heat for it. 

Fans I know, don't even blink when they talk "core" members and would laugh to hear it even discussed.  When someone has been around nearly 50 years, nit picking about "who was first?" seems ridiculous.  It reminds me of taking attendance in school.  He played Pet Sounds for the Beatles.  That was a great diplomatic stride to  privately let them hear that album.  Historic, really, given the perception or misperception that the bands were rivals.  They spurred each other to work harder, more creatively and that is a great thing. 

Moreover he was a member of BRI, upon formation, in 1966, according to what I've read.  Andrew tells us "1965," and Jeff Foskett says, "original" and even if it appears to be a conflict, longevity for Johnston and early involvement by Marks, (followed by a long absence) even as young and a sort of guitar prodigy, seem to confer that membership status.  David was a star on this tour. 

Any day of the week I'd rather have 5 than 3 Beach Boys! 

Nit picking, no way. When it comes to Al or David, yup. But as Jon so well stated above, the Beach Boys were huge stars by the  time Bruce arrived. Bruce's time in Mike's tribute touring act doesn't count in my mind. The real Beach Boys stopped when Carl died and Al left. We only had a real Beach Boys again in 2012.

Billing Bruce as an original member is just Mike's management trying to legitimize Mike's faux Beach Boys.

[smilethebeachboysloveyou]

Also, for me, Bruce's position as a Beach Boy is *far* less tenuous than David's. He was on far more records, made a far more notable creative contribution to the ones he was on, was in the band for decades longer, and is on almost all of the Beach Boys albums I find listenable all the way through. And that's not to knock David, but just... I can't even begin to comprehend how someone could consider it "worthy of debate" as to whether Bruce is a Beach Boy.

British fans (not sure if Andrew is) tend to have that opinion in general because Bruce was in the band when the Beach Boys became "famous" or mainstream in the UK. But in the US, if you are a first generation fan like me, we bought the albums one by one, and heard the hits one by one in the actual context as they came out. Our perspective is different. To the wave of fans that witnessed their rise to fame the Beach Boys were Brian, Dennis, Carl, Mike and David...a couple of years and five albums later David was gone and Al was the new guy...and couple of years and several albums after that Bruce appeared. So yes all of the things you say are true regarding Bruce being on more records, and in the band decades longer, and writing songs etc... But he came into the band a long time after they had become a household name in the US, and to many of us the Beach Boys glory days were behind them by the time we realized Bruce was a member of the Beach Boys. That's not to knock Bruce, that's just a perspective of someone who watched the Beach Boys history unfold in real time.

Even though I wasn't born until the year before "Kokomo" came out, I more or less agree with this sentiment.  In terms of the sheer number of years each David and Bruce have respectively been part of The Beach Boys, Bruce has David beaten, and Bruce was also a member of the band when they released Pet Sounds and "Good Vibrations," and has audible vocal parts on "California Girls," "The Little Girl I Once Knew," and "God Only Knows," which David does not.  However, while David was a member of the band from before the beginning and had a major influence on their early sound, as far as I know Bruce had little influence on the band until at least "The Nearest Faraway Place" on 20/20.  In some ways, he didn't really emerge as a full-fledged band member until Sunflower, and he left after Surf's Up until L.A.  While I don't think his time as a Beach Boy since L.A. or even since 1998 should count for nothing, what matters more than the number of shows or albums is the legacy left on the band, and it seems to me pretty clear that David's was more fundamental.

[Mikie]

Yeah, when I think of Bruce, I think of a surfing Doris Day.

 I never got that. Doris Day looked far better in a bathing suit than Bruce. It was an odd thought IMO.

And I'll bet Doris still looks better in white shorts than Bruce does.

[Jim V.]

British fans (not sure if Andrew is) tend to have that opinion in general because Bruce was in the band when the Beach Boys became "famous" or mainstream in the UK. But in the US, if you are a first generation fan like me, we bought the albums one by one, and heard the hits one by one in the actual context as they came out. Our perspective is different. To the wave of fans that witnessed their rise to fame the Beach Boys were Brian, Dennis, Carl, Mike and David...a couple of years and five albums later David was gone and Al was the new guy...and couple of years and several albums after that Bruce appeared. So yes all of the things you say are true regarding Bruce being on more records, and in the band decades longer, and writing songs etc... But he came into the band a long time after they had become a household name in the US, and to many of us the Beach Boys glory days were behind them by the time we realized Bruce was a member of the Beach Boys. That's not to knock Bruce, that's just a perspective of someone who watched the Beach Boys history unfold in real time.

Ugh, this wasn't your opinion until recently and I know this because you admitted so on this board. Until you started digging, you were like the many who didn't think much of David, and surely didn't think of Al as "the new guy." I'm not gonna lie, thanks to you I've come to think more of Dave as a true Beach Boy, and an important one, at that (they are all in my book though, even Blondie and Ricky).

To me, The Beach Boys are Brian, Carl, Dennis, Mike, Al, Bruce, Dave, Blondie, and Ricky. To most of the public (who even care) it's Brian, Carl, Dennis, Mike, and Al. Or even worse it's Brian (he's nutty right), the one that drowned...uh Dennis (?), and the bald singer...Love I think? And some other guys.

[lostbeachboy]

Well I guess Bruce is an original member considering he joined the group 4 years after they began.. And having replaced Brian... 

[SurfRiderHawaii]

British fans (not sure if Andrew is) tend to have that opinion in general because Bruce was in the band when the Beach Boys became "famous" or mainstream in the UK. But in the US, if you are a first generation fan like me, we bought the albums one by one, and heard the hits one by one in the actual context as they came out. Our perspective is different. To the wave of fans that witnessed their rise to fame the Beach Boys were Brian, Dennis, Carl, Mike and David...a couple of years and five albums later David was gone and Al was the new guy...and couple of years and several albums after that Bruce appeared. So yes all of the things you say are true regarding Bruce being on more records, and in the band decades longer, and writing songs etc... But he came into the band a long time after they had become a household name in the US, and to many of us the Beach Boys glory days were behind them by the time we realized Bruce was a member of the Beach Boys. That's not to knock Bruce, that's just a perspective of someone who watched the Beach Boys history unfold in real time.

Ugh, this wasn't your opinion until recently and I know this because you admitted so on this board. Until you started digging, you were like the many who didn't think much of David, and surely didn't think of Al as "the new guy." I'm not gonna lie, thanks to you I've come to think more of Dave as a true Beach Boy, and an important one, at that (they are all in my book though, even Blondie and Ricky).

Jon has been very consistent on his history since I joined the board in 2006.  And reading "The Real Beach Boy", which I believe came out in 2000, since then too. Did you read it?

Heck, what was the first album cover Bruce was on, Friends, Smiley Smile back cover? Don't remember. 

[Lonely Summer]

Just to get back to the original point, rather than the whole "Mike is the Devil and Bruce his representative on Earth" thing this has deteriorated into:

No, of course Bruce isn't an 'original member', but at the same time it's not like the claim is that different from those made by other bands. I saw The Grandmothers in the mid-90s, and they were billed as "featuring Don Preston, Bunk Gardner and Jimmy Carl Black of the original Mothers Of Invention" -- Preston and Gardner joined for the Mothers' second album.

Similarly, last week I saw The Magic Band. The promotion for that gig, which you can see at http://bandonthewall.org/events/3824/ , says "Sharing the vision of celebrating the music of the late Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart), original members Denny “Feelers Rebo” Walley, Mark “Rockette Morton” Boston, and John “Drumbo” French share the stage with guitarist Eric Klerks and drummer Craig Bunch to re-visit the classic Beefheart tunes with renewed fervor."

Drumbo joined the Magic Band for their first album, but didn't play on their first single. Rockette Morton only joined for the third album, Trout Mask Replica, and Denny Walley didn't join the band until 1975, ten years after they started, and only stayed in for eighteen months, and didn't play on any albums released while Beefheart was alive.

While Bruce definitely isn't an "original Beach Boy" in the sense most of us would use it, that of being in the band from the beginning, that kind of phrasing seems to be used now when advertising 60s bands to distinguish people who were on at least some of the records the audience will remember from people who weren't. It may be an inaccurate way of putting it, but I don't think it's especially dishonest.

Good point. The last time I saw Hamell on Trial, there wasn't one true original member onstage.

[Lonely Summer]

Exactly! Brian and Mike don't need to prove a damn thing to anybody and both Dave and Al have released solo stuff.... Bruce adjusts his mike, gets paid and talks sh*t....... However, he IS a Beach Boy!

Some folks here reacted with shock when I commented last year about "Bruce being a great musician?" Can you really blame me when his playing is never audible at gigs, for that matter, i can't even pick his voice out in the mix. I can always hear Mike, Brian, Al or Carl but Bruce? His voice just doesn't stand out, with rare exceptions like California Girls and God Only Knows.

[Jim V.]

British fans (not sure if Andrew is) tend to have that opinion in general because Bruce was in the band when the Beach Boys became "famous" or mainstream in the UK. But in the US, if you are a first generation fan like me, we bought the albums one by one, and heard the hits one by one in the actual context as they came out. Our perspective is different. To the wave of fans that witnessed their rise to fame the Beach Boys were Brian, Dennis, Carl, Mike and David...a couple of years and five albums later David was gone and Al was the new guy...and couple of years and several albums after that Bruce appeared. So yes all of the things you say are true regarding Bruce being on more records, and in the band decades longer, and writing songs etc... But he came into the band a long time after they had become a household name in the US, and to many of us the Beach Boys glory days were behind them by the time we realized Bruce was a member of the Beach Boys. That's not to knock Bruce, that's just a perspective of someone who watched the Beach Boys history unfold in real time.

Ugh, this wasn't your opinion until recently and I know this because you admitted so on this board. Until you started digging, you were like the many who didn't think much of David, and surely didn't think of Al as "the new guy." I'm not gonna lie, thanks to you I've come to think more of Dave as a true Beach Boy, and an important one, at that (they are all in my book though, even Blondie and Ricky).

Jon has been very consistent on his history since I joined the board in 2006.  And reading "The Real Beach Boy", which I believe came out in 2000, since then too. Did you read it?

Heck, what was the first album cover Bruce was on, Friends, Smiley Smile back cover? Don't remember. 

No, he's been consistent in his history for the most part, but I do remember at one point, he, like many of us admitted that he kinda blew off the David Marks side of the BB story until he really started looking into it.

[Nicko1234]

British fans (not sure if Andrew is) tend to have that opinion in general because Bruce was in the band when the Beach Boys became "famous" or mainstream in the UK. But in the US, if you are a first generation fan like me, we bought the albums one by one, and heard the hits one by one in the actual context as they came out. Our perspective is different. To the wave of fans that witnessed their rise to fame the Beach Boys were Brian, Dennis, Carl, Mike and David...a couple of years and five albums later David was gone and Al was the new guy...and couple of years and several albums after that Bruce appeared. So yes all of the things you say are true regarding Bruce being on more records, and in the band decades longer, and writing songs etc... But he came into the band a long time after they had become a household name in the US, and to many of us the Beach Boys glory days were behind them by the time we realized Bruce was a member of the Beach Boys. That's not to knock Bruce, that's just a perspective of someone who watched the Beach Boys history unfold in real time.

You're not even old enough for that to be true are you?

[AndrewHickey]

Exactly! Brian and Mike don't need to prove a damn thing to anybody and both Dave and Al have released solo stuff.... Bruce adjusts his mike, gets paid and talks sh*t....... However, he IS a Beach Boy!

Some folks here reacted with shock when I commented last year about "Bruce being a great musician?" Can you really blame me when his playing is never audible at gigs, for that matter, i can't even pick his voice out in the mix. I can always hear Mike, Brian, Al or Carl but Bruce? His voice just doesn't stand out, with rare exceptions like California Girls and God Only Knows.

People keep saying this, and it's just not true. Bruce's playing *used* to be inaudible at gigs in the 80s and 90s, and he clearly played practically nothing on the reunion tour. But in the Mike & Bruce band, where there are so few members, his keyboards are often quite an important part of the mix.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

British fans (not sure if Andrew is) tend to have that opinion in general because Bruce was in the band when the Beach Boys became "famous" or mainstream in the UK. But in the US, if you are a first generation fan like me, we bought the albums one by one, and heard the hits one by one in the actual context as they came out. Our perspective is different. To the wave of fans that witnessed their rise to fame the Beach Boys were Brian, Dennis, Carl, Mike and David...a couple of years and five albums later David was gone and Al was the new guy...and couple of years and several albums after that Bruce appeared. So yes all of the things you say are true regarding Bruce being on more records, and in the band decades longer, and writing songs etc... But he came into the band a long time after they had become a household name in the US, and to many of us the Beach Boys glory days were behind them by the time we realized Bruce was a member of the Beach Boys. That's not to knock Bruce, that's just a perspective of someone who watched the Beach Boys history unfold in real time.

You're not even old enough for that to be true are you?

Despite his youthful appearance, I believe Jon is in his late 50s.  Certainly could have been a Beach Boys fan when they broke in the early 60's.

[Nicko1234]

Despite his youthful appearance, I believe Jon is in his late 50s.  Certainly could have been a Beach Boys fan when they broke in the early 60's.

As he was presumably little more than an infant when David left the band, was that really old enough to consider Al to be, 'the new guy'?

[SurfRiderHawaii]

Despite his youthful appearance, I believe Jon is in his late 50s.  Certainly could have been a Beach Boys fan when they broke in the early 60's.

As he was presumably little more than an infant when David left the band, was that really old enough to consider Al to be, 'the new guy'?

Jon was probably 6-8ish. Same age I was mesmerized by the Beatles on Ed Sullivan.  I'd noticed if Ringo had left.

[filledeplage]

But Bruce just IS  a Beach Boy! Just look at him and listen to his voice! If this guy wasn't born to be a Beach Boys, I dunno who was!

I meant more from a fan's perspective and why people question his membership.

SMiLE Brian - I gotta agree with Pinder Goes To Kokomo.  When the Band needed a replacement for Brian (after Glenn Campbell) they got it right with someone who actually did surf music, and had some credentials, and did surf, which never got the airplay, that Dennis got.  He seems to really enjoy the gigs, goes out of his way, always for the special needs fans, and, keeps the audience engaged, while taking the heat for it.  

Fans I know, don't even blink when they talk "core" members and would laugh to hear it even discussed.  When someone has been around nearly 50 years, nit picking about "who was first?" seems ridiculous.  It reminds me of taking attendance in school.  He played Pet Sounds for the Beatles.  That was a great diplomatic stride to  privately let them hear that album.  Historic, really, given the perception or misperception that the bands were rivals.  They spurred each other to work harder, more creatively and that is a great thing.  

Moreover he was a member of BRI, upon formation, in 1966, according to what I've read.  Andrew tells us "1965," and Jeff Foskett says, "original" and even if it appears to be a conflict, longevity for Johnston and early involvement by Marks, (followed by a long absence) even as young and a sort of guitar prodigy, seem to confer that membership status.  David was a star on this tour.  

Any day of the week I'd rather have 5 than 3 Beach Boys!  

Nit picking, no way. When it comes to Al or David, yup. But as Jon so well stated above, the Beach Boys were huge stars by the  time Bruce arrived. Bruce's time in Mike's tribute touring act doesn't count in my mind. The real Beach Boys stopped when Carl died and Al left. We only had a real Beach Boys again in 2012.

Billing Bruce as an original member is just Mike's management trying to legitimize Mike's faux Beach Boys.

Let's look at this another way.  Let's consider how they regard one another, rather than the fan perception.   In an interview, David referred to the band as "family" and I've heard most of them use that term more than once, besides the blood relation the Band shares.  In a "family" as new members come along, whether, blood siblings, half-siblings, or adopted siblings, there is no distinction.  And there is no specific time limit placed upon being a member.  At some point, all five "principals" of the band, were "accepted" into the band "family" and, at this point, I regard it as moot.  

Mike's "faux" band, was sanctioned by BRI, after Carl died, and was authorized to tour under specific guidelines, which were clearly set forth. It is said that they were to perform the music in a prescribed BB style.  That would likely include the set lists that the Touring Band plays.  

And, The Touring Band, has found a market where they are very successful, and bring the BB music to more places than the C50 band ever could. And people (including me) rejoiced over the C50 "event" but there was no representation that it would continue beyond the "agreed upon" tour.  For that to happen, the board of BRI would have to make that decision.  

Whomever is playing that BB music, whether it is Brian or Al, or Mike and Bruce, if I can get there, I will. Incidentally, Brian's band played a lot of the same venues as the Touring Band, because I've seen them only weeks apart in the same venues.  Ya, there is prestige playing the big venues, but how long is that "sustainable?"

At the end of the day, whether you are in a modest hotel or a palace, you are still not in your own house, with your own coffee or tea pot in the morning.  Being on the road, cannot be an easy thing, jet-lagged and living out of a suitcase.  

[Jon Stebbins]

British fans (not sure if Andrew is) tend to have that opinion in general because Bruce was in the band when the Beach Boys became "famous" or mainstream in the UK. But in the US, if you are a first generation fan like me, we bought the albums one by one, and heard the hits one by one in the actual context as they came out. Our perspective is different. To the wave of fans that witnessed their rise to fame the Beach Boys were Brian, Dennis, Carl, Mike and David...a couple of years and five albums later David was gone and Al was the new guy...and couple of years and several albums after that Bruce appeared. So yes all of the things you say are true regarding Bruce being on more records, and in the band decades longer, and writing songs etc... But he came into the band a long time after they had become a household name in the US, and to many of us the Beach Boys glory days were behind them by the time we realized Bruce was a member of the Beach Boys. That's not to knock Bruce, that's just a perspective of someone who watched the Beach Boys history unfold in real time.

You're not even old enough for that to be true are you?

I was five when my older sister brought the Surfin USA LP home, I remember it like yesterday. My neighbor had the first LP. From there we bought every Beach Boys LP as they were released. When Shut Down Vol. 2 came out we ALL thought Al was the new guy. The Beach Boys were huge in my neighborhood and it was a real mystery why David was suddenly gone. But starting in the early '70's i began reading up on the band and all the articles and soon to be released books told me David was a "brief" replacement for Al and that he had no real importance in the history of the band. Hmmm. I bought the myth. For many years I dismissed David. And as Sweedudejim wrongly contextualized... I admitted that in Dave's book, and on this board. It wasn't until I did my own research, and went back to the press of the early '60's and interviewed the people in and around the band that a revelation was revealed. David had been purposely written out of the Beach Boys history starting in 1964 and he never did anything to resist that. The truth was closer to what we all thought back in 1964, which was that David was an orig. member of the band that had been unceremoniously replaced with little explanation.

So, I was young...but I saw the Beach Boys early days through the eyes of my teenage sisters and their friends who were all big fans of the group. I did see the group's history as a first generation fan, we all thought David was part of the group roll call, just like John, Paul, George and Ringo were for that other group. Seeing Al appear on album five was weird and shocking to us..."who is THAT guy?"  Later, in the 70's, I became a Beach Boys "aficionado" who was being sold a myth that David was basically nothing, just a face on those covers...and since respected historians like David Leaf and Tim White also basically gave the Murry approved spin in their writings... I relegated David to the "fill in" status until about 2005 when I found out that the name Al Jardine was in no Beach Boys press prior to David's departure. That seemed odd. So I dug deeper and slowly understood what I eventually wrote in David's book. The story of the Beach Boys genesis had NEVER been written correctly by any historian, mainly because Murry systematically blotted David's part of it out, and David had never really bothered to correct that...until we wrote his book.

[bonnevillemariner]

As a relatively recent die-hard fan (grew up listening and loving the Boys, but only recently started digging deeper), it's very tough for me to pick out contributions from David or Bruce in any given song-- aside from instrumental solos or lead vocals, of course.  Listening to a vocal stack, for example, I can always ID Brian, Mike, and Al (and Carl and Dennis most of the time), but I can't for the life of me ID Bruce.  And when it comes to guitars, it could be David or anybody else.  I'm not refined enough to be able to detect (or care) who's who on what, instrumentally.

From what I've read/seen in interviews and documentaries, I really like Dave and am pretty blah on Bruce.  I guess my point in regards to the topic is that from a casual fan perspective, it's like, Bruce who? (and this coming from somebody who shares his politics)

Granted, my die-hardness is still young.  I'm open to the possibility that I will be able to clearly ID Bruce in the vocal stack and come to appreciate his contributions more as time goes on.  Perhaps I'll even come to like "Disney Girls" or "Dierdre" too!

[Emdeeh]

My experience is similar's to Jon's. David was one of the BBs when I discovered the band in my early teens, just as they were starting to chart. One of the things I really like, then and now, about the early BBs was how Carl and Dave worked so well together as guitarists. When David left, I had the same reaction to Al -- who is this new guy? The explanation that Al was one of the originals ameliorated the surprise of seeing a new face, but there was no real reason given about why Dave left. (Thanks a lot, Murry....)

The first time I saw Bruce was at his second-ever concert with the BBs in Memphis, 1965. By then I'd heard about Brian's breakdown, so it was somewhat less of a surprise to see an unfamiliar face onstage.

[AndrewHickey]

As a relatively recent die-hard fan (grew up listening and loving the Boys, but only recently started digging deeper), it's very tough for me to pick out contributions from David or Bruce in any given song-- aside from instrumental solos or lead vocals, of course.  Listening to a vocal stack, for example, I can always ID Brian, Mike, and Al (and Carl and Dennis most of the time), but I can't for the life of me ID Bruce.  And when it comes to guitars, it could be David or anybody else.  I'm not refined enough to be able to detect (or care) who's who on what, instrumentally.

That's odd -- a couple of people have said that, and yet the one place where I do see some tiny amount of merit to the "Bruce isn't real" argument is that his vocals have always stuck out for me like a sore thumb in the harmony stack. All the other band members have a family sound, even the non-family members (and weirdly even Blondie and Ricky to an extent -- Blondie could sound spookily like Carl at times to my ears), yet Bruce sounds nothing like any of them. I *like* his voice, but it didn't fit the blend especially well.

As for David Marks, I certainly wasn't meaning to belittle him by the comparison I was making. For the record, yes, I'm British, and a generation younger than Jon. I got into the band through Pet Sounds after the Mojo piece in 1995, but it must have been a good three years after I became a fan before I heard any songs David was on other than Surfin' Safari, 409, In My Room and Surfer Girl -- I didn't get the early albums until long after I'd already got everything from 1965 through 1996, although I got the GV box in 98. I think it's great that he's finally getting the recognition he is so long overdue, I think he's a very good guitarist, and the one time I met him he seemed like a lovely person, but he isn't on any of the stuff that made me a fan.

[KittyKat]

I actually thought of one band/project where I liked Bruce's voice -- Sagittarius. Bruce has a cute-sy, novelty sound to his voice, and it works the way it was used in that band's songs on "Present Tense."  His voice also would have fit better in a band such as The Association.

[bonnevillemariner]

That's odd -- a couple of people have said that, and yet the one place where I do see some tiny amount of merit to the "Bruce isn't real" argument is that his vocals have always stuck out for me like a sore thumb in the harmony stack. All the other band members have a family sound, even the non-family members (and weirdly even Blondie and Ricky to an extent -- Blondie could sound spookily like Carl at times to my ears), yet Bruce sounds nothing like any of them. I *like* his voice, but it didn't fit the blend especially well.

Interesting, Andrew.  I still can't pick him out individually, but I will concede that without Carl and Dennis, the vocal stack does not have that same family sound.  Frankly, that family sound isn't way apparent to me in their 70's stuff, where the harmony seems really light-- almost an afterthought.  But on the whole, you could probably replace Bruce in today's stack with any of the touring band supporting vocalists and I probably wouldn't notice.  Remove even one of Brian, Al, or Mike, though, and the quintessential Beach Boys sound is lost.  Which is why I'm not way into the BW solo stuff. 

[drbeachboy]

Even though as Andrew says his voice doesn't fit in the family stack, I really liked all his background vocals on Pet Sounds, Sunflower, and especially on Smile. His voice may have been different, but Brian usually placed it to good effect.

[AndrewHickey]

Even though as Andrew says his voice doesn't fit in the family stack, I really liked all his background vocals on Pet Sounds, Sunflower, and especially on Smile. His voice may have been different, but Brian usually placed it to good effect.

Oh, I *love* his backing vocals. They just don't blend all that well -- but not everything has to.

[bonnevillemariner]

So where can I hear this Bruce you speak of?  Is there a particular track or point in a track that would help me see your point?

[drbeachboy]

So where can I hear this Bruce you speak of?  Is there a particular track or point in a track that would help me see your point?

God Only Knows, Wonderful, All I Wanna Do, Cottonfields (Single version), are four that I can think of right off the bat.