Brian on future Beach Boys plans, no more reunions!

[rab2591]

About TLOS, I think considering the situation it wasn't sudden at all.

Brian makes all the early BB albums, makes tons of money for the label, has power, has freedom, makes PS and SMiLE.
Brian makes 15 big ones, same situation, then makes Love You.
Brian does SMiLE live, then makes TLOS.
Brian makes a 50th celebration BB album, Brian has power/freedom, Brian makes...


Well, we'll see!

I hope you're right!

[Shady]

About TLOS, I think considering the situation it wasn't sudden at all.

Brian makes all the early BB albums, makes tons of money for the label, has power, has freedom, makes PS and SMiLE.
Brian makes 15 big ones, same situation, then makes Love You.
Brian does SMiLE live, then makes TLOS.
Brian makes a 50th celebration BB album, Brian has power/freedom, Brian makes...

PLEASURE ISLAND!

[EgoHanger1966]

I'm fully aware this makes me a bad person, but I want Pet Sounds 2.

[SMiLE Brian]

I'm fully aware this makes me a bad person, but I want Pet Sounds 2.

Brian and Tony Asher should give it one last go.

[zachrwolfe]

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[Jay]

It would be interesting if Brian reunited with some old songwriting partners. Is Andy Paley still with us? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think their last collaboration produced some better than average material. Actually, when was the last time that Brian and Mike sat down one on one, without any outside influences, and tried an equal collaboration together, totally from scratch?

[zachrwolfe]

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[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Brian may be able to do it but during the tour he was generally taking carls parts in the harmony stack,and doing a damn fine job of it.

[Fall Breaks]

My hope is that, if it's another BB record, they ditch Foskett's vocals and have Brian or Bruce sing the high parts. To me, on TWGMTR Jeff's voice just overpowers everything else and makes it sound less like The Beach Boys. Of course, this is a highly unlikely wish, but the Gershwin album is proof Brian still has the ability. I also watched a radio interview from 2010 or something where they played the recording of Surfer Girl for Brian and he started singing along perfectly. So don't say he can't. Also, to Jeff's credit, I do think he has a great voice, I would just rather he not sing on BBs records.

You watched a radio interview?

[zachrwolfe]

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[Rocker]

During the C50 tour some new song titles of Brian's were mentioned (I forgot them of course  ). I don't know if he will record with The Beach Boys but maybe he is cutting those songs.

[EgoHanger1966]

My hope is that, if it's another BB record, they ditch Foskett's vocals and have Brian or Bruce sing the high parts. To me, on TWGMTR Jeff's voice just overpowers everything else and makes it sound less like The Beach Boys. Of course, this is a highly unlikely wish, but the Gershwin album is proof Brian still has the ability. I also watched a radio interview from 2010 or something where they played the recording of Surfer Girl for Brian and he started singing along perfectly. So don't say he can't. Also, to Jeff's credit, I do think he has a great voice, I would just rather he not sing on BBs records.

You watched a radio interview?

While that admittedly does sound odd, I indeed did watch an interview that was broadcast over radio, which was simultaneously filmed.

Brian does break out into damn near perfect falsetto for about 3 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmQ0HutAFaE

[c-man]

My hope is that, if it's another BB record, they ditch Foskett's vocals and have Brian or Bruce sing the high parts. To me, on TWGMTR Jeff's voice just overpowers everything else and makes it sound less like The Beach Boys. Of course, this is a highly unlikely wish, but the Gershwin album is proof Brian still has the ability. I also watched a radio interview from 2010 or something where they played the recording of Surfer Girl for Brian and he started singing along perfectly. So don't say he can't. Also, to Jeff's credit, I do think he has a great voice, I would just rather he not sing on BBs records.

Bruce did a few falsettos on the last record...parts of "Think About The Days", "Bill and Sue", "Shelter".  Foskett also sang falsettos on those tunes, but Bruce has a falsetto line or two on those three, at least.  I think Brian's only falsettos come near the end, at one point on "Strange World" and again on "Pacific Coast Highway", both times his lead turns into a falsetto for a few notes.

[the professor]

BIM would be fine if it rocked. You can barely hear Dave's guitar. Dave's song Anywhere USA on his new album is better and could have been a much greater choice for Radio. Requirements for a new BB album, as per our collective wisdom:  minimal Jeff, songs that rock, and no reliance on mere nostalgia without an edge or a heart.

[Rocker]

My hope is that, if it's another BB record, they ditch Foskett's vocals and have Brian or Bruce sing the high parts. To me, on TWGMTR Jeff's voice just overpowers everything else and makes it sound less like The Beach Boys. Of course, this is a highly unlikely wish, but the Gershwin album is proof Brian still has the ability. I also watched a radio interview from 2010 or something where they played the recording of Surfer Girl for Brian and he started singing along perfectly. So don't say he can't. Also, to Jeff's credit, I do think he has a great voice, I would just rather he not sing on BBs records.

Bruce did a few falsettos on the last record...parts of "Think About The Days", "Bill and Sue", "Shelter".  Foskett also sang falsettos on those tunes, but Bruce has a falsetto line or two on those three, at least.  I think Brian's only falsettos come near the end, at one point on "Strange World" and again on "Pacific Coast Highway", both times his lead turns into a falsetto for a few notes.

I think Brian starts going into a falsetto on "Think about the days" too, but it seems that before he gets real high Foskett takes over.

And just to mention, Bruce does a great job on the record.

[the professor]

Rocker, you are the ultimate master and sage authority. Do you know, wise one, if the BB are making an album this year. Or are they themselves taking it a day at a time. Are we going to get Radio II, which is already in the can and thus have no actual new BB studio collaboration but rather producers packaging stuff that did not make it into Radio?

Thanks, master.

[Rocker]

Rocker, you are the ultimate master and sage authority.

That would be news....   

I don't know anything more than every other regular (not insider) member on here. My guess is that it's more likely than another tour but that wouldn't mean much. Let's just enjoy 50+ years of great music and not worry about what will happen. TWGMTR was very good and a great ending to a fabulous career

[Jim V.]

BIM would be fine if it rocked. You can barely hear Dave's guitar. Dave's song Anywhere USA on his new album is better and could have been a much greater choice for Radio. Requirements for a new BB album, as per our collective wisdom:  minimal Jeff, songs that rock, and no reliance on mere nostalgia without an edge or a heart.

You know professor, I think that as long as we are talking about The Beach Boys, nostalgia is unavoidable. Unfortunately it seems that Mike Love can't write a Beach Boys lyric that isn't super referential. And Brian himself even did that "Forever She'll Be My Surfer Girl" thing. And I'm not saying nostalgia is bad. But when it comes as ham-handedly as Mike is dishing it out, it's rough.

And even though I, like you, want this new material Brian is working on to be for a Beach Boys album, chances are this might be solo BW. I remember Peter Reum (I think) saying Brian wanted to do a solo album this year, and then there is just the fact that even TWGMTR was too "out there" for Mike. The fact that he seriously publicly complained about the suite at the end is ridiculous. I'm not sure Mike wants to work with Brian anymore, unless it was under his terms, and I don't think Melinda and co. really wanna bow down to Mike's whims.

I think the only way we get a new Beach Boys album is if Capitol tells Brian, "hey, we like the songs, but we'll give you a deal, and more money if you make it a Beach Boys album." Who knows??Kinda like Warner/Reprise/whoever convinced Lindsey Buckingham turn what was going to be an early '00s solo album into a the Say You Will album by Fleetwood Mac.

Or, if they use some of the other 20 or so songs that were already recorded, that might be how we get new Beach Boys material. Maybe Brian is actually sweetening those. That would greatly cut the involvement with Mike and Bruce if that's a touchy subject.

[SMiLE Brian]

If Mike had control, it would be SIP part two. The man's vision of the BBs is truly scary at this point. The best I can describe Mike's idea of the group IMO is this: He only cares about the objects and culture in the older songs (cars, surf boards, and cheap romance). While I think Brian looks at the BBs as a outlet for more human spiritual concerns.

[rab2591]

BIM would be fine if it rocked. You can barely hear Dave's guitar. Dave's song Anywhere USA on his new album is better and could have been a much greater choice for Radio. Requirements for a new BB album, as per our collective wisdom:  minimal Jeff, songs that rock, and no reliance on mere nostalgia without an edge or a heart.

You know professor, I think that as long as we are talking about The Beach Boys, nostalgia is unavoidable. Unfortunately it seems that Mike Love can't write a Beach Boys lyric that isn't super referential. And Brian himself even did that "Forever She'll Be My Surfer Girl" thing. And I'm not saying nostalgia is bad. But when it comes as ham-handedly as Mike is dishing it out, it's rough.

And even though I, like you, want this new material Brian is working on to be for a Beach Boys album, chances are this might be solo BW. I remember Peter Reum (I think) saying Brian wanted to do a solo album this year, and then there is just the fact that even TWGMTR was too "out there" for Mike. The fact that he seriously publicly complained about the suite at the end is ridiculous. I'm not sure Mike wants to work with Brian anymore, unless it was under his terms, and I don't think Melinda and co. really wanna bow down to Mike's whims.

I think the only way we get a new Beach Boys album is if Capitol tells Brian, "hey, we like the songs, but we'll give you a deal, and more money if you make it a Beach Boys album." Who knows??Kinda like Warner/Reprise/whoever convinced Lindsey Buckingham turn what was going to be an early '00s solo album into a the Say You Will album by Fleetwood Mac.

Or, if they use some of the other 20 or so songs that were already recorded, that might be how we get new Beach Boys material. Maybe Brian is actually sweetening those. That would greatly cut the involvement with Mike and Bruce if that's a touchy subject.

Whoa, missed this one: Mike actually complained about the ending suite on TWGMTR?

[Jim V.]

BIM would be fine if it rocked. You can barely hear Dave's guitar. Dave's song Anywhere USA on his new album is better and could have been a much greater choice for Radio. Requirements for a new BB album, as per our collective wisdom:  minimal Jeff, songs that rock, and no reliance on mere nostalgia without an edge or a heart.

You know professor, I think that as long as we are talking about The Beach Boys, nostalgia is unavoidable. Unfortunately it seems that Mike Love can't write a Beach Boys lyric that isn't super referential. And Brian himself even did that "Forever She'll Be My Surfer Girl" thing. And I'm not saying nostalgia is bad. But when it comes as ham-handedly as Mike is dishing it out, it's rough.

And even though I, like you, want this new material Brian is working on to be for a Beach Boys album, chances are this might be solo BW. I remember Peter Reum (I think) saying Brian wanted to do a solo album this year, and then there is just the fact that even TWGMTR was too "out there" for Mike. The fact that he seriously publicly complained about the suite at the end is ridiculous. I'm not sure Mike wants to work with Brian anymore, unless it was under his terms, and I don't think Melinda and co. really wanna bow down to Mike's whims.

I think the only way we get a new Beach Boys album is if Capitol tells Brian, "hey, we like the songs, but we'll give you a deal, and more money if you make it a Beach Boys album." Who knows??Kinda like Warner/Reprise/whoever convinced Lindsey Buckingham turn what was going to be an early '00s solo album into a the Say You Will album by Fleetwood Mac.

Or, if they use some of the other 20 or so songs that were already recorded, that might be how we get new Beach Boys material. Maybe Brian is actually sweetening those. That would greatly cut the involvement with Mike and Bruce if that's a touchy subject.

Whoa, missed this one: Mike actually complained about the ending suite on TWGMTR?

Yeah, in a Rolling Stone interview. After the suite ended after a playback in the studio, Mike responded by "putting his fingers into the shape of a gun, placing it under his chin and shooting himself in the head. 'It's brilliant, beautiful, but I didn't write it, so it doesn't have that silver cloud on the cumulus nimbus. It's more cumulus than I probably would do.'" He just isn't happy unless its referencing "Good Vibrations", "I Get Around", "Kokomo", "Fun, Fun, Fun" and everything else.

[Shady]

That quote in the rolling stone article is enough to make you hate Mike Love.

What a tool

[AndrewHickey]

That quote in the rolling stone article is enough to make you hate Mike Love.

What a tool

Yes, how terrible of him to call it brilliant and beautiful. What an awful, awful man.

[Shady]

That quote in the rolling stone article is enough to make you hate Mike Love.

What a tool

Yes, how terrible of him to call it brilliant and beautiful. What an awful, awful man.

So you missed him blowing his brains out with a gun, saying that because he didn't write it, it doesn't have a "silver cloud". If Mike got his hands on that song he would have changed it to "Summer's gone but not for long".

Stop trying to defend his actions. He doesn't appreciate when Brian puts his soul into his music. He wants Brian singing about Beaches and nostalgia for the rest of his days.

I'm not saying Mike was always like that, His work at one point was so good I'd classify him as a genius but he's lost it, his creativity and his mind.

[SMiLE Brian]

That quote in the rolling stone article is enough to make you hate Mike Love.

What a tool

Yes, how terrible of him to call it brilliant and beautiful. What an awful, awful man.

So you missed him blowing his brains out with a gun, saying that because he didn't write it, it doesn't have a "silver cloud". If Mike got his hands on that song he would have changed it to "Summer's gone but not for long".

Stop trying to defend his actions. He doesn't appreciate when Brian puts his soul into his music. He wants Brian singing about Beaches and nostalgia for the rest of his days.

I'm not saying Mike was always like that, His work at one point was so good I'd classify him as a genius but he's lost it, his creativity and his mind.

I agree Shady, the quote almost makes it seem he praised it  because he was "walking on eggshells" around Brian's team.