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« Reply #50 on: February 07, 2013, 04:28:25 AM »

There is something about this album that I find incredibly morose and depressing.

I think it's the overall sound, coupled with the dirge like songs contained within. Trader and Steamboat are the only non Brian songs I have any time for. Throughout the album is that awful blues rock singing, which is not what I listen to the Beach Boys for.

As usual it is left to an ailing Brian Wilson to add something halfway decent. I've never been into Sail On Sailor (again, the singing!!! arghhhhh, not my thing at all, ) Funky Pretty though, what a great, under rated track. Very interesting synth work, and some fantastic counterpoint on the fade. But all in all, give me Love You any day of the week
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« Reply #51 on: February 07, 2013, 07:33:09 AM »

Once again, I'm respectfully agreeing to respectfully disagree with most of the respectful people on this respectful board.

1- Sail on Sailor - best BB song ever.  EVER!  Blondie nailed (& continues to nail) it.
2- California - quintessential Beach Boys, with a country rock twist.
3- Funky Pretty - Brian writes a pretty neat song during a weird period of his life.
4- Steamboat - chugging rhythm with an amazing steel guitar break.  Not crazy about Rieley's lyrics, though.
5- The Trader - again, lyrics do very little for me, but Carl's performance / production save it.
6- Only With You - amazing ballad from Dennis.  Showcases Carl's voice.
7- Leaving This Town - love Blondie's vocal & Ricky's moog solo is cool & spacey.
8- Big Sur - this waltz version is WAY better than the syrupy 4/4, sorry.
9- The Beaks of Eagles - love Al's music & singing here, but Mike's narration is annoying & pretentious.
10- Mt. Vernon & Fairway - it doesn't deserve to be included on a 2 sided EP, but there's some nice music here.  Like the GV boxed set version.

For the record, I enjoy reading these lists.  Keep 'em coming.
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« Reply #52 on: February 21, 2013, 02:42:00 PM »

 1. California
 2. Steamboat
 3. Sail On Sailor
 4. Funky Pretty
 5. Big Sur
 6. Trader
 7. Only With You
 8. Beak Of Eagles
 9. Leaving This Town
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« Reply #53 on: March 08, 2013, 01:39:29 PM »

A+
The Trader
California Saga/California

A
Steamboat
Sail On, Sailor

B+
California Saga/Big Sur

B-
Funky Pretty
Leaving This Town
Only with You

C
Mount Vernon and Fairway

D+
California Saga/The Beaks of Eagles
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« Reply #54 on: March 08, 2013, 01:53:29 PM »

Here is the correct list:

1. Steamboat
2. Boatsteam
3. Only With You (Dennis' version is superior to the Holland version)
4. External Anatomical Structures Used for Eating and for Grooming, Manipulating Objects, Killing Prey, Fighting, Probing for Food, Courtship and Feeding Young of Eagles
5. Big Sur
6. Trader
7. California
8. Funky Pretty
9. Sale On Sailors
10. Leaving This Town































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« Reply #55 on: March 08, 2013, 04:59:23 PM »

Seriously, did you have to waste so much space?
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« Reply #56 on: March 08, 2013, 05:15:51 PM »

I love Holland. One of my top 4-5 Beach Boys albums.

Sail On Sailor
California Saga: California
Only With You
Trader
Funky Pretty
Leaving This Town
Steamboat
California Saga: Big Sur
California Saga: Beaks of Eagles

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« Reply #57 on: March 08, 2013, 11:02:32 PM »

Holland is one of those albums that I think is better than the sum of its parts...

1, Trader
2, Only With You - A shame that Mike and Dennis couldn't have written more together
3, California Saga - California

4, Sail on Sailor - The studio version of this doesn't really do it for me.
5, Big Sur

6, Steamboat - Pleasant but meandering
7, Funky Pretty - Gibberish
8, Leaving this Town - Overlong and the live version is superior
9, Beaks of Eagles - Nice music from Al though
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« Reply #58 on: March 09, 2013, 08:07:32 PM »

Yes, Holland was soooo much more palatable than CATP. More digestible but the totally savory eye of the steak was Brian's tasty, but oh too rare musical tidbits offered ala Mt. Vernon. I still find it totally intriguing as the day it was released. Maybe someday, he'll show us the whole deal on those things-maybe he won't but it's incredibly inticing to think that more exists. Can you imagine a whole album of stuff like that? Head Spin
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« Reply #59 on: March 19, 2013, 12:10:35 PM »

1.Trader (wow what a cool song, one of carls best, sure it's kind of long but it's mellow and relaxing)
2.Sail onn sailor (great classic BW track)
3.Only with you (Classic DW song)
4.California (good song with that classic BB sound)
5.steamboat (someone once told me it reminded him of Pink Floyd, in fact they said they were ripping Pink Floyd off, I don't know whcih song he was talking about but I like this song never the less)
6.funky pretty (Pretty funky)
7. Big sur (one of Mikes best songs)
8.beaks of eagles (Yeah sure the spoken part is pretty bad but the music and harmonies, one day I was playing this with someone iin the car and he asked me politely if I can stop playing the song)
9.leaving this town (it's ok but it's kind of long and really goes no where)
10.Fairy tale (I barely ever listen to this, of course it has some good piano/snth stuff but that's about it)

If "We got love" was on it I would place it between "Only with you" and "California"
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« Reply #60 on: April 15, 2013, 06:52:18 PM »

I'm not gonna count Mt. Vernon & Fairway so I'll just say here that it is just about essential Brian Wilson listening. Love it. It's wacky, but so's Brian. All heart.

Anyway...

1. Sail On, Sailor - Classic and underrated at the same time (by most). WOW. WOW. WONDERFUL.
2. Only With You - Spectacularly beautiful. More honey from angelic Carl.
3. California - Delightful. The state of California owes this band, big time. What love songs they sing for her!
4. The Trader - Great material from Brother Carl. Lovely stuff.
5. Funky Pretty - Righteous! "FUNK-AY...I still rem'mber mah funkay prettay!" Hell yeah.
6. Big Sur - Tremendous. One of Mike Love's best moments. Here's a gold ring karma handshake to you buddy. What Happened?
7. Steamboat - Even Jack Riley's 'LOL What?' lyrics can't sink this boat. Exceptional Dennis backing track.
8. Leaving This Town - Unlike many others, I really like this song a bunch. Just great.
9. Beaks of Eagles - I hate putting this last because I think it's very, very good, but hey everything else is just better.

I love this whole album, really the last great, great group effort. Whenever I hear some Brianistas say that the Beach Boys never did anything all that good and memorable without Brian, I scoff, shake my head and slip my headphones on and jam to 'The Trader', 'Big Sur' and 'Only With You'. A seriously kick ass album.
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« Reply #61 on: June 08, 2013, 06:56:32 PM »

1 - Leaving This Town - Excellent, find the extended instrumental break boring and unnecessary but it doesn't take #1 away from this track
2/3 - Sail On Sailor
(tie between these two, Big Sur would be here as well if it was the 4/4 version)
2/3 - California
4 - Mt. Vernon - Quite nice.
5 - Beaks of Eagles
6 - The Trader
7 - Big Sur
8 - Funky Pretty - Always been kind of a "meh" for me, but the more bluesy part and the coda are kinda cool
9 - Only With You - Normally, this style of track would take closer to the top spot for me, but this one in particular doesn't really do much for me.
10 - Steamboat
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« Reply #62 on: October 01, 2013, 11:35:22 AM »

1. Sail On Sailor - 327.5 (16)
2. The Trader - 301 (11)
3. California Saga: California - 276 (5)
4. Steamboat - 229.5 (2)
5. California Saga: Big Sur - 220.5 (3)
6. Funky Pretty - 212 (6)
7. Only With You - 206.5
8. Leaving This Town - 133.5 (1)
9. California Saga: The Beaks of Eagles - 118.5 (1)

My thoughts? Kind of surprised at how high California ended up placing.  I also think Only with You is better than third last on the album, but then again this is a pretty consistent crop of songs. I was rooting for Trader to take it, but Sail on Sailor is the closest thing they had to a hit single in the early 70's.
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« Reply #63 on: March 21, 2014, 03:29:11 PM »

From Worst to Best:

09. California Saga: The Beaks Of Eagles.
08. Steamboat.
07. California Saga: Big Sur.
06. California Saga: California.
05. Leaving This Town.
04. Funky Pretty.
03. Only With You.
02. Sail On Sailor.
01. The Trader.
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« Reply #64 on: March 21, 2014, 04:15:55 PM »

1. The Trader
2. California Saga: Big Sur
3. Sail On Sailor
4. Steamboat
5. Leaving This Town
6. California Saga: Beaks Of Eagles
7. California Saga: California

8. Funky Pretty
9. Only With You
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« Reply #65 on: August 12, 2014, 08:54:40 AM »

Good album!

1. Sail On Sailor
2. The Trader
3. Funky Pretty
4. On My Way To Sunny Californ-I-A
5. Steamboat
6. Big Sur
7. Mt. Vernon And Fairway Fairy Tale
8. Leaving This Town
9. Only With You
10. Beaks Of Eagles
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« Reply #66 on: October 27, 2014, 05:37:06 PM »

1) CS: California
2) CS: Big Sur
3) Sail On Sailor
4) Leaving This Town
5) CS: Beaks of Eagles
6) The Trader
7) Only With You
Cool Funky Pretty
9) Steamboat
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« Reply #67 on: May 22, 2015, 11:37:42 AM »

Here's my worst to best for the Holland album.  I'm not counting the Mt. Vernon EP as I really don't consider it part of the proper album.  Which is why it was put on a separate EP. 

9.  Funky Pretty - Kind of a preview of what was to come on Love You.  I love Brian, but easily my least favorite track.  The In Concert version isn't bad. 

8.  Big Sur - I really like this song.  This just shows how much I like everything else on the album. 

7.  Only With You - I like this song, but I prefer the Dennis version.  It sounds to me like it was written for his voice. 

6.  Trader - Great Carl vocals really make this song.

5.  The Beaks of Eagles - Not a fan of the spoken word, but Al's verses make up for it. 

4.  Steamboat - A tie with number three.  The song actually songs like you're on a steam boat.

3.  Leaving This Town - Sounds more like Pink Floyd than The Beach Boys, but still a great track by any name.

2.  California - This is what the Beach Boys should have sounded like for the rest of the 1970s.  Great harmonies.  A great lead from Mike on a nice tune. 

1.  Sail On Sailor - Classic. 
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« Reply #68 on: February 29, 2016, 09:17:40 PM »

Funky Pretty

Steamboat

California Saga - California

Sail On Sailor

The Trader

California Saga - Big Sur

Leaving This Town

Only With You

California Saga - Beaks of Eagles
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« Reply #69 on: May 14, 2017, 04:01:58 AM »

1. Steamboat - Absolutely brilliant song just so good from Dennis, very clear imagery I get from this song and it's very clever
2. Sail On Sailor - Anoter stunner of a track, great lead vocal by Blondie
3. Big Sur - Probably one of Mikes best vocals, a very cool odd to Big Sur
4. Only With You - A beautiful song with great vocals by Carl
5. The Trader - Brilliant song by Carl great melody
6. The Beaks Of Eagles - Love the harmonies on this one
7. Funky Pretty - A funky little song from Brian
8. On My Way To Sunny California - Not a bad song but there is something about it that I don't particularly like
9. Leaving This Town - Good lyrics but awfully boring
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« Reply #70 on: December 28, 2017, 09:35:13 PM »

1. Sail On, Sailor
2. Only With You

3. Steamboat
4. Big Sur
5. We Got Love

6. The Trader
7. Leaving This Town
8. California

9. Funky Pretty
10. The Beaks of Eagles
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« Reply #71 on: December 28, 2017, 11:01:53 PM »

1. Leaving This Town - Not a popular opinion, I believe, but it's my favorite song from the album. It does have it's boring parts and it's not powerful as it could be, but it's still very soulful.
2. California Saga: California - Great harmonies. I love Brian's voice in it.
3. Sail On Sailor - Wonderful track. Very commercial. Blondie did a terrific job.
4. California Saga: Big Sur - I'm not usually a fan of Mike's vocals but I truly like his voice here. Doesn't have a big instrumental break, but it's great.
5. Only With You - I love this song, but I prefer Dennis' version.
6. The Trader - One of the best songs Carl ever wrote.
7. Steambot - Terrific.
8. Funky Pretty - I love some parts of this song, but the whole it's just okay.
9. California Saga: The Beaks Of Eagles - Not bad, just not their best.
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« Reply #72 on: January 09, 2018, 11:53:04 AM »

1. The Trader
2. California Saga (Big Sur)
3. California Saga (California)
4. Steamboat
5. Sail On, Sailor
6. California Saga (Beaks of Eagles)
7. Leaving This Town
8. Only With You
9. Funky Pretty

I've left Mt. Vernon and Fairway out because it's kind of it's own thing. I wish I enjoyed Funky Pretty more, because it's the only song on the album that I skip regularly and it's a shame that Brian wasn't in a place where he could bring more to the main part of the album. Leaving This Town and Only With You are both great, but I personally prefer the slightly faster songs on the first side of the album. Regardless, this is my personal favorite Beach Boys LP and I hope that its stature grows as we near its 50th anniversary.
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