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« on: January 03, 2013, 02:00:44 PM »

A bit confusing for me to listen to all the way through, but it's still a wonderful album.

12. All I Want to Do - Probably the toughest BB song, yet also one of my least favorites. I just don't like it.
11. Bluebirds Over the Mountain - Just reminds me of the Sanford and Son theme song.
10. Be with Me
9. The Nearest Faraway Place - I think this is beautiful. Bruce did a lovely job.
8. Never Learn Not to Love
7. Do It Again - Great single!
6. I Can Hear Music - Beautifully done, Carl!
5. Cotton Fields
4. Our Prayer - Some of the finest harmonizing ever put on tape. So complex.
3. I Went to Sleep - I really love this. Really cool instrumentation.
2. Cabinessence - Perfect.
1. Time to Get Alone - Perfect.
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2013, 02:08:51 PM »

1. Do It Again - HUGE fan of this, every bit as brilliant as it is retro/simplistic
2. Time to Get Alone - the song that made me a hardcore fan when I heard it in An American Band
3. Cabinessence - a classic, of course
4. I Can Hear Music - simply gorgeous, a perfect single!
5. I Went to Sleep - <3
6. Our Prayer - another classic
7. Cotton Fields - "very Brian" in a way; always liked this just as much as the single version
8. Be With Me - slightly creepy and I love it!
9. The Nearest Faraway Place - actually a fan of this
10. Never Learn Not to Love - great lead vocal by Dennis but otherwise not a huge fave of mine
11. All I Want to Do - not entirely convinced by this one...
12. Bluebirds Over the Mountain - meh... probably one of the group's most forgettable singles ever
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2013, 02:16:38 PM »

A breakdown of the tracks shows this to be a lot better than even I'd estimated it. So many flat out great songs here.

Our Prayer

Time To Get Alone
I Went To Sleep
Do It Again
Be With Me
Cabinessence
Cotton Fields

Never Learn Not To Love
I Can Hear Music
Bluebirds Over The Mountain

All I Want To Do
The Nearest Faraway Place
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2013, 02:18:27 PM »

12. Bluebirds over the Mountain - Never been a fan of the guitar sound.
11. Cotton Fields - Prefer the single version.
10. All I Want To Do - Used to hate it, but has kind of grown on me; a not half bad rocker.
9. The Nearest Faraway Place - Love the contrast between this and the previous track.
8. Do It Again
7. Our Prayer - Heavenly beautiful, but should've either opened or closed the album; terribly placed.
6. I Went To Sleep - Love the vocal delivery, couldn't have fit the song's atmosphere any better.
5. Be With Me - Love the climactic choruses.
4. Never Learn Not To Love
3. Time To Get Alone
2. I Can Hear Music - A perfect pop song with one of Carl's best vocal performances to date.
1. Cabin Essence - The hallucinating "grand coolie" section is one of the best bits of music I've ever heard.
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2013, 02:21:47 PM »

First couple of years I listened to this album, I loved every track except for The Nearest Faraway Place. Now, I don't love the LP version of Cottonfields, and  I love Faraway Place. Sorry, other than that, I can't rank this one either.
I'll be able to rank the next one.
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2013, 02:24:26 PM »

A breakdown of the tracks shows this to be a lot better than even I'd estimated it. So many flat out great songs here

That's exactly what I thought.
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2013, 02:29:49 PM »

1. Do It Again - In my all time top 3 BB songs
2. Cotton Fields - I prefer the single version overall, but there's something very very special about the album version too
3. Cabinessence - This song, included on Absolute Best Vol. 2 in 1991, was part of what made me realize there was more to the BBs than I thought
4. Bluebirds Over The Mountain - No other song like it in the BB catalog...I understand the mixed reviews, but I enjoy it
5. Time To Get Alone
6. I Can Hear Music
7. Never Learn Not To Love
8. I Went To Sleep
9. The Nearest Faraway Place
10. Be With Me
11. Our Prayer
12. All I Want To Do
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2013, 02:41:16 PM »

1.  Our Prayer
2.  Never Learn Not To Love
3.  Do It Again
4.  Be With Me
5.  All I Want To Do
6.  Cabinessence
7.  I Can Hear Music
8.  Cotton Fields
9.  Time To Get Alone
10. I Went To Sleep
11. The Nearest Faraway Place
12. Bluebirds Over The Mountain


Surprised to see "Never Learn Not To Love" not very high on people's lists.  This to me is a gem of a song mainly because of Dennis' brilliant arrangement...overwhelming, intense and spooky.  Very few songs can accomplish that.  It's lightyears from Manson's demo.
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2013, 02:58:28 PM »

1.Our Prayer
2.Cabinessence
3.Time To Get Alone
4.Do It Again
5.I Can Hear Music
6.Cotton Fields
7.All I Want To Do
8.Be With Me
9.The Nearest Faraway Place
10.I Went To Sleep
11. Never Learn Not To Love
12.Bluebirds Over The Mountain
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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2013, 03:05:11 PM »

1. Cabinessence - sheer wondrousness
2. Do It Again - can't believe this rates so low on peoples' lists. (Overexposure?) One of my very favourite Beach Boys productions. Heard it played (LOUD!) as the intro music to a Polyphonic Spree gig once, and I thought, that's going to take a lot of living up to.
3. Be With Me - the lyric is all over the place, each verse is about something different, but beautiful music.
4. Never Learn Not To Love - beautiful song regardless of who wrote it.
5. Time To Get Alone - have tended to ignore this somewhat, have reappraised it in the light of all the praise it gets on here and elsewhere on the web. Very impressive. Still only 5th best song for me though.
6. Our Prayer - Like other "Smile" pieces, I never really thought about how good it is in its own right. I'm sorry not to have heard it live.


7. I Went To Sleep - glad it wasn't on "Friends" in place of Transcendental Metitation, particularly if anyone has ever played that album on their car stereo while driving.
8. I Can Hear Music - a bit "what people think the Beach Boys sound like". (Maybe I'm being unduly harsh out of amazement at people rating this cover version higher than Do It Again?)
9. Cottonfields - decent
10. Nearest Faraway Place - good but not great
11. All I Want To Do - I never thought this rocked all that much, but I know some rock and roll specialists who disagree, so I'll take their word for it.
12 Bluebirds Over The Mountain- Kinda catchy. Can't hate it.
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2013, 03:49:52 PM »


8. I Can Hear Music - a bit "what people think the Beach Boys sound like". (Maybe I'm being unduly harsh out of amazement at people rating this cover version higher than Do It Again?)

Beautiful song, regardless of who wrote it.
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2013, 04:53:03 PM »

While it may be lacking in cohesiveness, it's certainly not lacking in quality.  I often find the tracklist looks underwhelming because its two weakest tracks appear fairly early on.  Factor in the Break Away/Celebrate the News single and it's an embarrassment of riches.

1. Cabinessence
2. Time to Get Alone
3. Be With Me
4. I Went to Sleep
5. I Can Hear Music
6. Do It Again
7. Never Learn Not to Love
8. Our Prayer
9. Cotton Fields (The Cotton Song)
10. The Nearest Faraway Place

11. All I Want to Do
12. Bluebirds Over the Mountain
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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2013, 04:58:19 PM »

This is a great album. In my top 5.

1. All I Want To Do.   Yes that's right. Smiley  Whenever I hear it I gotta mooove to it.
2. I Can Hear Music.  Carl's voice is just blissful. A beautiful love song.
3. Cabinessence. The Grand Coolie section is spine tingling.
4. Do It Again.  Classic.
5. I Went To Sleep.  Sounds like a Friends album song.
6. Our Prayer.
7. Time to Get Alone.
8. Cotton Fields.  Sorry but I adore the single version so much.
9. Be With Me.
10. Bluebirds Over the Mountain.   Boppy but corny.  Terribly lyrics.
11. Nearest Faraway Place.  Beautiful but I love their voices so much I prefer vocal pieces.
12. Never Learn Not To Love.  It's not that I think it sounds bad,  It's the association with what's his face.  Bit too sensitive maybe but I don't like to listen to it.
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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2013, 06:15:12 PM »

1. Time to Get Alone
2. Cabinessence
3. Our Prayer
4. I Can Hear Music
5. I Went to Sleep
6. Never Learn Not to Love
7. Do It Again
8. The Nearest Faraway Place
9. Cotton Fields
10. Be with Me
11. Bluebirds Over the Mountain
12. All I Want to Do
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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2013, 06:23:24 PM »

12. Never Learn Not To Love.  It's not that I think it sounds bad,  It's the association with what's his face.  Bit too sensitive maybe but I don't like to listen to it.

In that case, you also shouldn't like Cotton Fields (written by Leadbelly, a convicted murderer), I Can Hear Music (co-written by Phil Spector, also a convicted murderer) and Cabinessence (with yet another convicted murderer, Jim Gordon, on drums/percussion).
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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2013, 06:41:13 PM »

12. Never Learn Not To Love.  It's not that I think it sounds bad,  It's the association with what's his face.  Bit too sensitive maybe but I don't like to listen to it.

In that case, you also shouldn't like Cotton Fields (written by Leadbelly, a convicted murderer), I Can Hear Music (co-written by Phil Spector, also a convicted murderer) and Cabinessence (with yet another convicted murderer, Jim Gordon, on drums/percussion).

Well considering I didn't know the above information you have so graciously given...   The guy gives me the creeps like no other and that's my opinion. Thanks.
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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2013, 07:31:11 PM »

1.  Do It Again
2.  I Went to Sleep
3.  Cabinessence
4.  Cotton Fields
5.  I Can Hear Music
6.  Our Prayer
7.  Time to Get Alone
8.  Bluebirds over the Mountain
9.  The Nearest Faraway Place
10.All I Want to Do
11.Never Learn Not to Love
12.Be with Me
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« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2013, 08:14:50 PM »

1. Time to Get Alone - One of Brian's greatest productions, and performances by the band as a whole. Criminally overlooked.
2. Cabinessence  - One of the best Smile songs, works better on Smile than on here.
3. I Went to Sleep - The best song that should have been on Friends.
4. All I Want to Do - A great hard rock song, Mike really nailed the vocals.
5. I Can Hear Music - I'm still suprised at how well Carl mimiced Brian's production style on this.
6. Bluebirds over the Mountain
7. Be with Me
8. Never Learn Not to Love
9. The Nearest Faraway Place
10. Do It Again
11. Cotton Fields - Far inferior to the single version.
12. Our Prayer - Doesn't work nearly as well out of context, in my opinion.
 
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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2013, 08:51:04 PM »

This one's tough...

Never Learn Not to Love
I Can Hear Music
Time To Get Alone
Cabinessence
Be With Me
I Went To Sleep
Our Prayer
Do It Again
Cotton Fields
All I Want to Do
Bluebirds
Nearest Faraway Place
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« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2013, 08:59:36 PM »

1.  I Can Hear Music - - no contest
2.  Cottonfields
3.  Do It Again
4.  Time to Get Alone - - - glad I finally got all the lyrics sorted out
5.  Bluebirds Over The Mountain - - I know, I know, can't help it, love the rocking arrangement and the guitar
6.  Be with Me
7.  All the rest of it.  Have to see I have mi≈ed emotions about Never Learn Not To Love given its creepy feel AND author, and Cabinesence is too much of a broken mosaic for me.
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« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2013, 09:42:38 PM »

Cabinessence
Our Prayer
Do It Again
Time To Get Alone
I Can Hear Music
Cotton Fields
I Went To Sleep
Never Learn Not To Love
All I Want To Do
Be With Me
The Nearest Faraway Place
Bluebirds Over The Mountain
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« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2013, 09:43:13 PM »

1.) Cabinessence-This song, for me, is the best result of Brian's modular song-recording method from the Smile era.  The "Home on the Range" and "Who Ran the Iron Horse" sections are less like the typical verse and chorus pattern and more like an intercutting sequence in an early film, as if the song is cutting between the Old West and the rushing approach of modernity as carried by the train, and the instrumentation of each respective part evokes the place that the lyrics refer to (such as the flute and old-timey sounding piano in the "Home on the Range" section and the metallic clangs in the "Who Ran the Iron Horse Section" that sound like a train.  The final section is their synthesis: the dawn of the new west as the railroad is getting constructed there.  The lyrics, melody, and instrumentation simultaneously bring out nostalgia for the old west, excitement of the approach of the new, and a certain darkness underlying the construction of the new west.
2.) Time to Get Alone-One of Carl's greatest lead vocals and some great group harmonies.  It has the sort of low-key charm of songs like "Aren't You Glad" and "Wake the World," but is aided by a slightly denser production than those songs.  Good thing that Mike and company demanded that Brian give this song to The Beach Boys, as their version blows Three Dog Night's away (unsurprisingly)
3.) Our Prayer-The essence of the Beach Boys' harmonic power, extracted and presented in all its haunting power.
4.) I Can Hear Music-Though Carl could never be Brian's equal as a songwriter, the abilities he displays as a producer here rival what Brian was doing in 1965.
5.) Do It Again-A nostalgia song that is actually better than many of the songs for which it is nostalgic.  The rhythm and group vocal effort make this rival their best Chuck Berry-inspired rock and roll songs of the early 1960s, but the sublime middle-eight pushes it over the top.
6.) The Nearest Faraway Place-I know a lot of people think this song is cheesy, but I think it's a great tribute to Brian's best work from the mid-60s, even though it obviously does not equal that work.
7.) All I Want to Do-Mike does a shockingly powerful lead vocal here on what is probably the hardest rocking Beach Boys song ever.  It works surprisingly well.
8.) Never Learn Not to Love-I hate to admit how much I like this song, but it has one of Dennis' best lead vocals.
9.) Be With Me-Another strong Dennis lead vocal, but not nearly as powerful a song.

I've never had any particular affection for Bluebirds Over the Mountain, Cottonfields, or I Went to Sleep, so I'm not sure how to rank them.
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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2013, 09:53:47 PM »

One of my favorite albums by the Boys (and one my opinions of which won't court controversy).  Sure it's a hodgepodge but so is the White Album, More Of the Monkees, and some of my other favorite Pop albums.

1. I Can Hear Music - Fantastic!!!  It should have been the follow up single to "Do It Again"!  It could have kept them relevant post-1966  Grin
2. Our Prayer - Tho I prefer it on Smile and without the additional overdubs!
3. Cabinessence - See above but WOW!  What a track!
4. Do It Again - Absolutely no need for the "Workshop" stuff on it tho.  Who knows what Brian was thinking...
5. Cotton Fields - I like Al's version better but would have never seen anything wrong with Brian's if the second one was never produced.
6. Time to Get Alone - Great!  My only problem is the different versions make me miss something from the others whenever I listen to any of them!
7. Never Learn Not to Love - MUCH better than that "other" version.  This is the track that really puts the album over for me.
8. Bluebirds Over the Mountain - Catchy and fair enough but I'll never see how people refer to this hoedown as one of the band's "rockier" tracks!
9. Be With Me - Unlike some of Dennis's later stuff, its still enough of a song to (barely in this case) balance the weight of the production
10. The Nearest Faraway Place - Not great but a nice showcase for Bruce.  I liked its inclusion in the Olympia video
11. I Went to Sleep - Decent.  It could have been even better with some outside lyrics.
11. All I Want to Do - OK (but barely).  It tries too hard (and fails for the most part) to take it seriously.  The Live In London version is slightly better but that one's rightfully right at home next to "Barbara Ann".
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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2013, 10:39:19 PM »

A fine album that really shows how diverse the group was for the first time. Even if Brian missed some sessions what he did do was great, and you can hear his brothers coming into their own. I like all the songs very much except for the Bruce cut.

Time To Get Alone
Do It Again
I Can Hear Music
Cabinessence
I Went To Sleep
Our Prayer
Never Learn Not To Love
All I Want To Do
Be With Me
Cotton Fields
Bluebirds
Nearest Faraway

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« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2013, 10:48:43 PM »

yeah i totally think *falls asleep*
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