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Question: Albums: 1962-65 or 1967-2012: Which would you choose?
1962-1965 - 16 (32.7%)
1967-2012 - 33 (67.3%)
Total Voters: 48

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Author Topic: Poll: If You Could Only Keep the pre-1966 or post-1966 albums...?  (Read 7269 times)
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« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2012, 10:07:00 AM »

Pre - chicks, cars, surf and rock-and-roll!

Exactly.
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« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2012, 10:09:24 AM »

Here's a tougher scenario: 1978-1987 or 1989-1998. That is to say pre-Kokomo or post-Kokomo.

1978-1987 includes: MIU, LA, KTSA, BB '85 and "Chasin' The Sky".

1989-1998 includes: Still Cruisin', SIP, Stars & Stripes Vol. 1 and Salute NASCAR.

Those lists are not complete by any means but you get the idea. I guess I would lean more toward the 1978-1987 myself.

78-87, but I would need Stars & Stripes to have come along several years earlier.
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« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2012, 01:14:45 PM »

Does Endless Summer count as a post-1966 album? Anyway, it's impossible to decide. I'd go with "post" because of Love You and stuff like Carl and the Passions, but I wouldn't want to do without Today! and Little Deuce Coupe either. Right now I'm heavily into some individual early tracks, like Surfin' USA, Warmth of the Sun, and Cherry Cherry Coupe, so for the moment that would probably speak for "pre".
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« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2012, 08:24:12 PM »

Couldn't chose but post Holland I could live without.
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« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2012, 08:46:21 PM »

I don't listen to much of anything beyond Love You whereas there's a lot more to enjoy, even in the filler, of their pre-1966 albums. And yet here I am, coming down on the side that wants to keep the post-'66 (including Pet Sounds?) albums!
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« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2012, 05:09:34 AM »

Post-66 for me. You could put all the *really* good pre-PS tracks onto a 2-CD compilation and I'd not miss any of the rest of them, while there's barely a track between Smiley and Love You that i'd want to miss (and then there are the solo albums on top of that).

As for 78-87 or 87-96... none of the above? Actually, 78-87, for LA.
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« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2012, 05:35:30 AM »

Post-66 definitely for me. No contest.

I love the pre-66 material but i rarely feel the need to listen to it. I listen to MIU much more than anything pre-66!
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« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2012, 06:25:42 AM »

Post-66 definitely. The So Tough-Holland era is my favourite.
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« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2012, 07:47:09 AM »

45-50 years later I still couldn't enjoy life nearly as much without the first ten albums.  Ask my wife of 40 1/2 years.
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« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2012, 10:02:11 AM »

Yes, this would be good as a poll, but we need to determine which side Pet Sounds is on (or if it goes both ways, which might make it more difficult to choose!)

So far, I have the count as 13 pre, 11 post,  and 3 folks who (quite correctly, I'd have to say) refuse to choose.

As an inveterate quantifier, I decided awhile back to average all of the album rankings that are here at the board just to see what that looked like:

Pet Sounds 4.89, Today 4.65, Sunflower 4.61, Friends 4.39, SD/SN 4.34;
All Summer Long 4.31, Wild Honey 4.21, Love You 4.21, Holland 4.21, Surf's Up 4.10;
Surfer Girl 4.04, 20/20 4.01, Smiley Smile 3.94, TWGMTR 3.91, Shut Down v2 3.68;
CATP 3.49; Surfin USA 3.47, Little Deuce Coupe 3.37, Stack o'Tracks 3.36, Party 3.35;
LA 3.12, Surfin Safari 2.80, MIU 2.80, BB85 2.51, 15 Big Ones 2.47;
Keepin' the Summer Alive 2.43, Still Cruisin' 2.32, Summer in Paradise 1.38 (!!)

Haven't found that ranking displayed here before, apologies if it's been done already...but it's an interesting list and it leads to another perspective for this thread.

If we average the scores of the pre-PS LPs and the scores of the post-PS LPs up to Holland (with PS left out of both groups), we get the following averages:

pre-PS (including Party): 3.78
post-PS (including Stack'o'Tracks): 4.04
[post-Holland: 2.79]

(Party and Stack'o'Tracks have virtually the same scores, so this just lowers the average a bit, and doesn't change the comp.)

So, by the voters here who ranked the LPs individually, the post-PS material is deemed to be better, but just by a little bit.
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« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2012, 04:37:29 AM »

Don, where's Still Cruisin' in your list? Suspect that one may affect the balance somewhat...
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« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2012, 05:06:51 AM »

I have inserted the poll. To clarify: 1966 is excluded, no Pet Sounds.
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« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2012, 07:21:08 AM »

Oops, sorry for the omission...I've dropped Still Cruisin' back into the list in the earlier post. It's another low scorer (just 2.32).

I had three categories (pre-PS, SS-Holland, post-Holland), which work out as shown up above (post-Holland dips a bit more with SC in the mix, from 2.85 to 2.79).

Breaking it out to match the poll (62-65, 67-present), however, produces different results:

62-65: 3.78; 67-present: 3.42.

After Holland, there are only three LPs rated over 3 out of 5: Love You, LA, and TWGMTR.

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« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2012, 06:53:00 PM »

The stuff after Pet Sounds is the main reason I am a huge Beach Boys fan! I love the oldies too, but this is a no brainer for me!
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« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2012, 07:04:47 PM »

They're all oldies.
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« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2012, 08:50:40 PM »

They're all oldies.

Just like some of us!
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« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2012, 09:01:57 PM »

They're all oldies.

Just like some of us!

That's durn right.
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« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2012, 09:57:04 PM »


But dadburn goodies
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« Reply #43 on: December 31, 2012, 06:39:20 PM »

They're all oldies.

Well, somewhere along the line there is a seperate genre between oldies and classic rock or prog rock. I consider Pet Sounds a departure. But, yeah, I see your point. Smiley
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« Reply #44 on: June 20, 2014, 01:16:38 AM »

This is easy. I pick the post-1966 albums. The pre-1966 albums simply can't compare.

Here's a tougher scenario: 1978-1987 or 1989-1998. That is to say pre-Kokomo or post-Kokomo.

1978-1987 includes: MIU, LA, KTSA, BB '85 and "Chasin' The Sky".

1989-1998 includes: Still Cruisin', SIP, Stars & Stripes Vol. 1 and Salute NASCAR.

Those lists are not complete by any means but you get the idea. I guess I would lean more toward the 1978-1987 myself.

In that case, 1978-1987. Again, easy because of LA, the 85 album, and Chasin' The Sky.
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« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2014, 11:47:34 PM »

Think I'll choose pre and post 1966 thanks.
damn strait, you CANT break it up like that it aint right/ Id take 63 thru 73, ie surfin usa thru holland, theyre ALL phenomenal!
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« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2014, 01:53:18 AM »

In that case, 1978-1987. Again, easy because of LA, the 85 album, and Chasin' The Sky.
Interesting that you like "Chasin' the Sky", considering it's worse than anything on SIP (yes, even remakes & "Summer of Love". At least they're funny). I'll take 1978-1987 because of M.I.U. & BB'85. Though post-Kokomo has good stuff too (if we also count TWGMTR).

Really, I love Chasin' The Sky. I honestly see no problems with it.

Post-Kokomo has (of decent value)

Still Cruisin'
Somewhere Near Japan
Make It Big
Soul Searchin'
You're Still A Mystery
At least half of the TWGMTR album
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« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2014, 04:16:11 AM »

The redeeming quality of kokomo is carls voice. Anything with carls voice period. THE greatest voice in rock history along with dion, bobby darin and ray stevens before he became a tool for the tea party... it cant be said enough how brilliant and underrated carl was, along with being one of the greatest guitarists. I mean his licks on the surfin usa album are just as good as dick dale, chuck berry and all the other guitar heroes.
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« Reply #48 on: June 25, 2014, 09:33:57 PM »

 Yeah but you gotta understand that a good guitarist is a solid one which he was. NO guitarist could play AND sing like carl ,
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« Reply #49 on: September 20, 2014, 10:27:51 AM »

Goddammit, why can't I have a mix of both? Excluding Pet Sounds (1966), it's gotta be Today, Summer Days, Wild Honey, Friends, Sunflower, Holland and Love You.


Okay. I choose '62-'65. Close, though. All those crappy albums from the later '70s onwards really hurts '67-'12.
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