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« Reply #75 on: May 23, 2013, 08:19:47 AM »

Paul has written many a good lyric in his day.  "Somedays" off "Flaming Pie" and "Distractions" off "Flowers In The Dirt" immediately come to mind and that is just off the top of my head.

Yeah, when the feeling strikes he can do good work - Memory Almost Full struck me as quite lyrically strong, although I haven't listened to it in a while - but the guy also has songs called 'Mumbo' 'Bip Bop' 'Bap' etc. And lots of his most acclaimed work is gibberish, such as Jet, Uncle Albert, Coming Up (hell, all of McCartney II) or Band On The Run.

It's not a criticism, just how it is - the dude throws all his energy into his music as opposed to lyrics, unlike John or George. Late Beatles sorta typifies this, like The White Album features John exhuming dormant feelings about his mother/takes on the protest movement/the very concept of The Beatles themselves and Paul sings about his dog and that it's your birthday today - not that John doesn't have his 'dumb' moments on The White Album lyrically but as a contrast Macca doesn't step up his lyrical game to that level, just writing parody (Back In The USSR) or genre exercise (Helter Skelter, Honey Pie, Ob La Di). And they're great, well maybe not Ob La Di, but that's just how he writes.

Of course, late Beatles also shows John sliding lyrically into gibberish too - what the sh*t is Dig A Pony or Come Together 'about', etc) and Paul stretching that genre formalism to breaking point - 'comedy' like Maxwell, writing The Great Love Song with Long & Winding Road, folky ditties like Teddy Boy, 50's sh*t like Oh Darling, gospel rock with Let It Be, etc.

Rambling a bit, but it's a slow day at the office.
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« Reply #76 on: March 31, 2014, 09:37:41 PM »

John: Plastic Ono Band, Imagine, Sometime In New York City, Double Fantasy
Paul (Solo): McCartney, McCartney II, Tug Of War, Pipes Of Peace
Paul (Wings): Band On The Run, Venus And Mars
George: All Things Must Pass, Living In The Material World, Cloud Nine
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« Reply #77 on: March 31, 2014, 11:19:29 PM »

John: Plastic Ono Band, Imagine, Sometime In New York City, Double Fantasy
Paul (Solo): McCartney, McCartney II, Tug Of War, Pipes Of Peace
Paul (Wings): Band On The Run, Venus And Mars
George: All Things Must Pass, Living In The Material World, Cloud Nine
  Wow, someone actually likes Sometime in New York City. And Pipes of Peace (an unfairly maligned album IMHO).
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« Reply #78 on: March 31, 2014, 11:38:14 PM »

John: Plastic Ono Band, Imagine, Sometime In New York City, Double Fantasy
Paul (Solo): McCartney, McCartney II, Tug Of War, Pipes Of Peace
Paul (Wings): Band On The Run, Venus And Mars
George: All Things Must Pass, Living In The Material World, Cloud Nine
  Wow, someone actually likes Sometime in New York City. And Pipes of Peace (an unfairly maligned album IMHO).

I suppose I quite like Pipes Of Peace, after all it's got Say Say Say. Though I have to admit I don't care for a large percentage of solo McCartney.
And I love Sometime In New York City. Still say it's his fourth-best solo album (behind the other 3 I mentioned). Other than it being very political, I don't see why it's so disliked, it's a great album IMO.
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« Reply #79 on: April 01, 2014, 01:54:40 AM »

1. Paul McCartney - Venus and Mars
2. Paul McCartney - Ram
3. George Harrison - All Things Must Pass
4. Paul McCartney - Back To The Egg
5. Paul McCartney - Chaos and Creation In The Backyard

6. Paul McCartney - Band on the Run
7. John Lennon - John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band
8. John Lennon - Imagine
9. Paul McCartney - Tug Of War
10. John Lenonn - Double Fantasy
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« Reply #80 on: April 01, 2014, 03:20:22 AM »

The original unreleased version of McCartney II
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« Reply #81 on: April 01, 2014, 06:46:45 AM »

RINGO'S ROTOGRAVURE
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« Reply #82 on: April 01, 2014, 10:31:02 AM »

RINGO'S ROTOGRAVURE
That's actually not a bad album. Not as good as "Ringo" from '73, but I'd say equal to Goodnight Vienna.
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« Reply #83 on: April 01, 2014, 11:47:03 AM »

I agree, I really like the song 'Cookin'!
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« Reply #84 on: April 01, 2014, 03:40:30 PM »

The original unreleased version of McCartney II

What is this? McCartney II is the only McCartney album I like so this intrigues me!
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« Reply #85 on: April 01, 2014, 06:10:42 PM »

The original unreleased version of McCartney II

What is this? McCartney II is the only McCartney album I like so this intrigues me!

It's like the released version, but even weirder. I believe his record company refused to put it out or something like that.
So you can guess that most of McCartney's fans actively dislike it.

http://www.collectorsmusicreviews.com/mccartney-paul/paul-mccartney-the-lost-mccartney-album-strange-apple-sar-010/




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« Reply #86 on: April 01, 2014, 10:06:23 PM »

The original unreleased version of McCartney II

What is this? McCartney II is the only McCartney album I like so this intrigues me!

It's like the released version, but even weirder. I believe his record company refused to put it out or something like that.
So you can guess that most of McCartney's fans actively dislike it.

http://www.collectorsmusicreviews.com/mccartney-paul/paul-mccartney-the-lost-mccartney-album-strange-apple-sar-010/

Unless the mixes are different still, these previously-unreleased songs and alternate, longer mixes of album tracks are all included on the 2011 Archive Collection release of McCartney II.
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« Reply #87 on: April 07, 2014, 01:43:55 AM »

As a casual Beatles fan only, i can only think of six that I know and like (here in chronological order per Beatle):

George Harrison----All Things Must Pass

John Lennon----John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band, Imagine, Walls and Bridges

Paul McCartney----McCartney, Band on the Run
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« Reply #88 on: April 07, 2014, 07:13:04 PM »

1. Band on the Run
2. All Things must pass
3. Imagine
4. Venus & Mars
5. Ringo
6. Flaming Pie
7. Cloud Nine
8. Mind Games
9. George Harrison
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« Reply #89 on: April 08, 2014, 07:35:15 PM »

McCartney's first solo album, easily.

Not sure after that.
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« Reply #90 on: April 08, 2014, 07:45:30 PM »

I haven't really dug that deeply into Beatles solo records.

Of Paul, I've listened to Ram, McCartney, and Chaos and Creation in the Backyard - all of which I've enjoyed and are quite good.
I have all of John's albums due to a nifty box set, but haven't listened to them all. His debut is alright (although seemingly forgettable) and Imagine is only worth a mention for how much I love "Crippled Inside." Maybe John just ain't for me.
Of George, I wouldn't hesitate to say All Things Must Pass is a fantastic record, despite not listening to the damn thing yet. I've heard "My Sweet Lord," "Isn't It a Pity," "What Is Life," and "Ballad of Sir Frankie Crisp (Let It Roll)," which are all outstanding songs. 
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« Reply #91 on: April 09, 2014, 06:41:27 PM »

Like you Bubbly, I can't say I've delved too deeply into Beatles solo-country.  The few that I have, didn't have me craving for more.  But I'm not a Beatle-lover.

But this one was like a 3-ton megatron bomb -- the second I heard it.



I'm fairly confident in saying this is the one.  I mean sh-t... George Harrison had been living under the shadow of one of music's biggest songwriting duos.... and being no slouch of a songwriter himself, Harrison just f-cking unloaded.

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« Reply #92 on: April 09, 2014, 10:56:52 PM »

The only negative thing I can say about ATMP is that is was so incredibly great, George was never able to come up with another album that matched it - although I like almost everything he did, even critically derided albums like Dark Horse, Extra Texture, and Gone Troppo.
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« Reply #93 on: April 11, 2014, 04:57:51 AM »

Like you Bubbly, I can't say I've delved too deeply into Beatles solo-country.  The few that I have, didn't have me craving for more.  But I'm not a Beatle-lover.

But this one was like a 3-ton megatron bomb -- the second I heard it.



I'm fairly confident in saying this is the one.  I mean sh-t... George Harrison had been living under the shadow of one of music's biggest songwriting duos.... and being no slouch of a songwriter himself, Harrison just f-cking unloaded.

Love the gnomes too.   3D

Don't forget the Spector touch, he took a song such as Wah Wah with it's basic guitar riff and nothing lyrics and turned it into a wall of sound hard rock epic.
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« Reply #94 on: May 07, 2014, 06:53:36 AM »

I haven't really dug that deeply into Beatles solo records.

Of Paul, I've listened to Ram, McCartney, and Chaos and Creation in the Backyard - all of which I've enjoyed and are quite good.
Imagine is only worth a mention for how much I love "Crippled Inside." Maybe John just ain't for me.
Of George, I wouldn't hesitate to say All Things Must Pass is a fantastic record, despite not listening to the damn thing yet. I've heard "My Sweet Lord," "Isn't It a Pity," "What Is Life," and "Ballad of Sir Frankie Crisp (Let It Roll)," which are all outstanding songs.  
Mr. Waves, we don't usually agree on anything (e.g. I think Harry Nilsson is a terrible singer), but this time you summed up my own thoughts. For starters, I absolutely love "Crippled Inside", the intro with George is so beautiful & kind, dig the off-kilter positive vibe of the song. Cool to know someone besides me likes it. But as you've said, not a big John fan as well.
"Chaos & Creation..." is possibly my favorite McCartney solo record. "English Tea" & "Jenny Wren" are esp. amazing.
On George, I agree with your picks, except "Isn't It a Pity?", I would also add the title track with its ravishing Hawaiian sonic imagery.

Now, what about Ringo? This chum gets often forgotten. What you heard & what you liked?
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« Reply #95 on: May 07, 2014, 07:26:18 AM »

To be honest, not much. I once had that compilation of Songs They Gave Away, which had "I'm the Greatest." It was a fine song, but that's pretty much the extent of my Ringo listening.
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« Reply #96 on: May 18, 2014, 09:51:06 PM »

Just out of interest & because it's interesting to compare, you should seek out Ringo's stuff (CD/vinyl/watever you like & found in mint condition coupled with low cost) & give it thoroughful listen. Even though he's not an accomplished songwriter, there are still some gems out there. And frankly, "I'm the Greatest" isn't like the best of his songs, so don't judge him by that one which btw was written by John Lennon & handed to Ringo because he thought the latter would sing the title in a less arrogant way. I'll for one advise you to check out either "Y Not" of the latest (co-credit with Van Dyke, by the by) or "Vertical Man".
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« Reply #97 on: May 18, 2014, 11:41:26 PM »

Just out of interest & because it's interesting to compare, you should seek out Ringo's stuff (CD/vinyl/watever you like & found in mint condition coupled with low cost) & give it thoroughful listen. Even though he's not an accomplished songwriter, there are still some gems out there. And frankly, "I'm the Greatest" isn't like the best of his songs, so don't judge him by that one which btw was written by John Lennon & handed to Ringo because he thought the latter would sing the title in a less arrogant way. I'll for one advise you to check out either "Y Not" of the latest (co-credit with Van Dyke, by the by) or "Vertical Man".
To tell you the truth, I never understood all the fuss about I'm the Greatest". The song itself is not the greatest, I think it's just the idea of John writing it for Ringo, and the fact that John, George and Ringo are reunited on the song. I really like "Vertical Man" a lot, I think Ringo and Mark Hudson made a good team. They also did one of the better rock and roll Christmas albums, "I Wanna Be Santa Claus".
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« Reply #98 on: May 20, 2014, 10:39:06 PM »

To tell you the truth, I never understood all the fuss about I'm the Greatest". The song itself is not the greatest, I think it's just the idea of John writing it for Ringo, and the fact that John, George and Ringo are reunited on the song. I really like "Vertical Man" a lot, I think Ringo and Mark Hudson made a good team. They also did one of the better rock and roll Christmas albums, "I Wanna Be Santa Claus".
Wow, don't know how it fell off my radar, esp. considering I'm a huge fan of Christmas music. What's in your opinion the best tracks of the album? I'm asking because I want to compare my own picks (as I find out later) with your favorites; it's a fun thing to compare tastes, you know. Thanks in advance. And thanks for recommending sth. new to my playlist. Hope Ringo's stuff is as good as Macca's "Wonderful Christmastime".
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« Reply #99 on: May 20, 2014, 11:36:59 PM »

To tell you the truth, I never understood all the fuss about I'm the Greatest". The song itself is not the greatest, I think it's just the idea of John writing it for Ringo, and the fact that John, George and Ringo are reunited on the song. I really like "Vertical Man" a lot, I think Ringo and Mark Hudson made a good team. They also did one of the better rock and roll Christmas albums, "I Wanna Be Santa Claus".
Wow, don't know how it fell off my radar, esp. considering I'm a huge fan of Christmas music. What's in your opinion the best tracks of the album? I'm asking because I want to compare my own picks (as I find out later) with your favorites; it's a fun thing to compare tastes, you know. Thanks in advance. And thanks for recommending sth. new to my playlist. Hope Ringo's stuff is as good as Macca's "Wonderful Christmastime".
Nobody bought Ringo's Xmas album, sadly, cause I love it. My favorites are the title track and "The Christmas Dance", which is kind of a skiffle track. Some great drumming on the opening track, too, "Come on Christmas".
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