Where is that %^&$@#&* MIC Box Set @#$%^&*(!!!

[the professor]

I must have missed something: why is there an old anthology called "Made in California" on Amazon? Or, rather, why is the boxed set taking that name?

[Disney Boy (1985)]

I want the 2012 version of "rollin up to heaven" that BBs made to warm up for TWGMTR.

I'd rather have the '74 original!

[Jim V.]

I must have missed something: why is there an old anthology called "Made in California" on Amazon? Or, rather, why is the boxed set taking that name?

Probably cuz it's a good name for a Beach Boys box set?

[TimmyC]

So is there any hope that Made in California is still going to happen?

[GoodToMyBaby]

It is happening.

[The Shift]

Who cares? Have moved on – there's a new One Direction album coming out!

[Andrew G. Doe]

So is there any hope that Made in California is still going to happen?

Yes, it is.

[Jim V.]

So is there any hope that Made in California is still going to happen?

Yes, it is.

Probably no time in the near future. It is kinda ridiculous that they haven't really given us any real info on it since it was announced like 15 months ago. Unlike Phil Cohen, I don't feel they owe me anything, but I gotta say I've gotten to the point where I'm not even expecting it to come out. When details finally get released, then it'll happen. Whatever.

[AndrewHickey]

So is there any hope that Made in California is still going to happen?

Yes, it is.

Probably no time in the near future. It is kinda ridiculous that they haven't really given us any real info on it since it was announced like 15 months ago. Unlike Phil Cohen, I don't feel they owe me anything, but I gotta say I've gotten to the point where I'm not even expecting it to come out. When details finally get released, then it'll happen. Whatever.

Given that when the tracklist for the live DVD came out people immediately flooded to Amazon and gave it one-star reviews without having seen it, just based on the tracklist, I'd imagine that keeping the information from fans until the very last minute would make sense from a commercial point-of-view. The second a tracklist is released, there'll be thousands of one-star reviews saying "It's full of stuff we've already got!" "Where's Surf's Up Part Two?" "Where's California Feeling 74?" "Why are there songs on this that aren't Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again, which everyone knows is the only unreleased Beach Boys song worth hearing even though I've not heard it?" "Why is there non-Smile material on here? Everyone knows the only worthwhile Beach Boys music is from 1966!" "This tracklist must have been put together by Mike Love! Mike Love sucks!" and so on.

[JohnMill]

So is there any hope that Made in California is still going to happen?

Yes, it is.

Probably no time in the near future. It is kinda ridiculous that they haven't really given us any real info on it since it was announced like 15 months ago. Unlike Phil Cohen, I don't feel they owe me anything, but I gotta say I've gotten to the point where I'm not even expecting it to come out. When details finally get released, then it'll happen. Whatever.

Given that when the tracklist for the live DVD came out people immediately flooded to Amazon and gave it one-star reviews without having seen it, just based on the tracklist, I'd imagine that keeping the information from fans until the very last minute would make sense from a commercial point-of-view. The second a tracklist is released, there'll be thousands of one-star reviews saying "It's full of stuff we've already got!" "Where's Surf's Up Part Two?" "Where's California Feeling 74?" "Why are there songs on this that aren't Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again, which everyone knows is the only unreleased Beach Boys song worth hearing even though I've not heard it?" "Why is there non-Smile material on here? Everyone knows the only worthwhile Beach Boys music is from 1966!" "This tracklist must have been put together by Mike Love! Mike Love sucks!" and so on.

I don't think there is anything wrong with that personally if the box set isn't up to snuff.  Box sets usually skew towards the hardcore fanbase anyhow.  That being said The Beach Boys have at least in my opinion been way above the mendoza line when it comes to delivering for their fans as I can't think of an archival release they've put out yet that I haven't liked.  All these years later, HAWTHORNE CA still gets a couple of spins a year in the old car stereo. 

My feeling is anything before 4th quarter is to be considered optimistic.  They are going to want to capitalize on a Christmas cash-in, as they should.

[Shady]

I can't reveal my source but the word is MIC is being delayed because Bruce is still working on his re-recorded version of "She believes in love again".

[Generation42]

Will they use "Surf's Up" '71? Will we get the "Child Is Father Of The Man" mix that Brian made (possibly with the chorus vocals grafted on)? Have they found anything new?

Good questions.  I like your CIFOTM notion, there, but specifically regarding "Surf's Up," I'd really like to see the TSS version get the slightest of remixes which addresses the vocal drag on the chorus.  I personally feel this version has all of the qualities to make it the definitive rendition of the song, but that lag just dosn't sit well with me (and even after this long, it still gets me every time).

I know other fans made note of it when the set was first released, but has there ever been any official remarks as to the reasoning behind choosing to put it out that way?  We know when Brian sang the number live, he sang it strictly on the beat, so I have to wonder why a change was made.  I can't imagine it could have been an error that got past QC, could it?

Anyway, my point is, I'd love to see a nice mono remix of TSS' "Surf's Up" with that 'fix' feature on Made in California.

[Mikie]

I'd love to see a nice mono remix of TSS' "Surf's Up" with that 'fix' feature on Made in California.

Huh??

[Generation42]

Huh??

I'd like to hear an official remix of the TSS version of "Surf's Up" which addresses the vocal lag during the chorus and I think Made in California would be as good a place as any to get it to us.

With everything digitized, it would literally take only minutes to adjust the vocal so that it's in sync with the cadence we've always heard for the chrous.  In the end, I'll admit that it's not that big of a deal, but if the song is going to be represented in this career retrospective (and we're not given, say, a killer early 70s live version, instead), I think it's not asking too much to fix the vocal 'lag' first. 

[Wirestone]

So is there any hope that Made in California is still going to happen?

Yes, it is.

Probably no time in the near future. It is kinda ridiculous that they haven't really given us any real info on it since it was announced like 15 months ago. Unlike Phil Cohen, I don't feel they owe me anything, but I gotta say I've gotten to the point where I'm not even expecting it to come out. When details finally get released, then it'll happen. Whatever.

In total agreement. It really seems like the BBs had a master plan that lasted precisely until the last show in England. At that point, everything else -- personal relationships, works in progress, you name it -- promptly went to sh*t.

[Andrew G. Doe]

It really seems like the BBs had a master plan that lasted precisely until the last show in England. At that point, everything else -- personal relationships, works in progress, you name it -- promptly went to sh*t.

Interesting theory. Not one I subscribe to, however (based on the available evidence).

[Disney Boy (1985)]

So is there any hope that Made in California is still going to happen?

Yes, it is.

Probably no time in the near future. It is kinda ridiculous that they haven't really given us any real info on it since it was announced like 15 months ago. Unlike Phil Cohen, I don't feel they owe me anything, but I gotta say I've gotten to the point where I'm not even expecting it to come out. When details finally get released, then it'll happen. Whatever.

Given that when the tracklist for the live DVD came out people immediately flooded to Amazon and gave it one-star reviews without having seen it, just based on the tracklist, I'd imagine that keeping the information from fans until the very last minute would make sense from a commercial point-of-view. The second a tracklist is released, there'll be thousands of one-star reviews saying "It's full of stuff we've already got!" "Where's Surf's Up Part Two?" "Where's California Feeling 74?" "Why are there songs on this that aren't Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again, which everyone knows is the only unreleased Beach Boys song worth hearing even though I've not heard it?" "Why is there non-Smile material on here? Everyone knows the only worthwhile Beach Boys music is from 1966!" "This tracklist must have been put together by Mike Love! Mike Love sucks!" and so on.

Quite frankly, if Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again wasn't on the box i think the compilers would deserve precisely such criticism.

[Micha]

Huh??

I'd like to hear an official remix of the TSS version of "Surf's Up" which addresses the vocal lag during the chorus and I think Made in California would be as good a place as any to get it to us.

With everything digitized, it would literally take only minutes to adjust the vocal so that it's in sync with the cadence we've always heard for the chrous.  In the end, I'll admit that it's not that big of a deal, but if the song is going to be represented in this career retrospective (and we're not given, say, a killer early 70s live version, instead), I think it's not asking too much to fix the vocal 'lag' first. 

Guess I'm dumb, but I still don't know what you mean with "chorus lag". Surf's Up doesn't have a chorus. Can you tell me the time in the track where this lag appears?

Speaking of Surf's Up, if I had a wish for MIC that would be fulfilled, I'd want a version of the early 1970s live version they did with an orchestra, mixed for stereo with the orchestra in one channel and everything else in the other. I could then "overdub" the orchestra onto the TSS version, that would be pretty near my dream version of Surf's Up. I'm realistic enough to realize that this is a pretty unrealistic wish...

[chris.metcalfe]

Will we get the "Child Is Father Of The Man" mix that Brian made

Sorry, I haven't been following the Smile threads for the past 3 years.

Can someone briefly explain why this wasn't on the TSS box?

[Cabinessenceking]

Huh??

I'd like to hear an official remix of the TSS version of "Surf's Up" which addresses the vocal lag during the chorus and I think Made in California would be as good a place as any to get it to us.

With everything digitized, it would literally take only minutes to adjust the vocal so that it's in sync with the cadence we've always heard for the chrous.  In the end, I'll admit that it's not that big of a deal, but if the song is going to be represented in this career retrospective (and we're not given, say, a killer early 70s live version, instead), I think it's not asking too much to fix the vocal 'lag' first. 

Guess I'm dumb, but I still don't know what you mean with "chorus lag". Surf's Up doesn't have a chorus. Can you tell me the time in the track where this lag appears?

Speaking of Surf's Up, if I had a wish for MIC that would be fulfilled, I'd want a version of the early 1970s live version they did with an orchestra, mixed for stereo with the orchestra in one channel and everything else in the other. I could then "overdub" the orchestra onto the TSS version, that would be pretty near my dream version of Surf's Up. I'm realistic enough to realize that this is a pretty unrealistic wish...

we want more 'binaural' mixes now? 

[Micha]

we want more 'binaural' mixes now? 

Nope, it's only me, and I only want that one!

[The Shift]

we want more 'binaural' mixes now?  

Nope, it's only me, and I only want that one!

What a concept that brings to mind – individually tailored box sets!

How about they make, say, 500 tracks available (inc mixes, remixes, remasters, remixed remasters, remastered remixes, alt versions, unreleased remastered alt remixes, remixed released versions of unreleased remasters etc etc etc) and allow us to each to choose 300 to download for £100/$400.

So you can get the binaural stuff you want – the vox-only stuff, the unreleased Wouldn't It Be Nice to Surf Your California Feeling Again – and you can ignore the stuff you don't want (Kokomo sung in Urdu by Mike and Pope Francis; Deirdre Believes in Endless Tears in The Morning, etc)…

But you only get one shot and the tracks can't be shared.

[The Heartical Don]

I am happy that this little thread of mine, which more or less started as some oddity, an info-free gag (see my first post) gradually evolved into what it is now... including some cameo appearances by none other than the legendary Phil Cohen.

Please continue, girls and boys!

 

[Cabinessenceking]

Will we get the "Child Is Father Of The Man" mix that Brian made

Sorry, I haven't been following the Smile threads for the past 3 years.

Can someone briefly explain why this wasn't on the TSS box?

to make room for the fantastic 'Teeter Totter Love' ofc?

[Shady]

So is there any hope that Made in California is still going to happen?

Yes, it is.

Probably no time in the near future. It is kinda ridiculous that they haven't really given us any real info on it since it was announced like 15 months ago. Unlike Phil Cohen, I don't feel they owe me anything, but I gotta say I've gotten to the point where I'm not even expecting it to come out. When details finally get released, then it'll happen. Whatever.

In total agreement. It really seems like the BBs had a master plan that lasted precisely until the last show in England. At that point, everything else -- personal relationships, works in progress, you name it -- promptly went to sh*t.

When has a plan by the beach boys ever not gone to sh*t. Even the C50 tour went to sh*t.