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Question: Which Do You Prefer?
Keepin' The Summer Alive - 57 (50%)
The Beach Boys - 57 (50%)
Total Voters: 109

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Author Topic: Twofer polls #11: Keepin' The Summer Alive vs. The Beach Boys (85)  (Read 13323 times)
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« Reply #75 on: October 19, 2012, 02:33:31 AM »

What's the deal with "totally rad"? Not a native speaker here so I've always wondered why this particular phrase seems to annoy so many hardcore fans.

`Rad` (short for radical) was the sort of word that you would have expected teenage boys, girls and turtles to use at that time. Hearing Al, in his forties at that point, using it just feels like a middle-aged man trying to sound cool and is faintly embarrassing.
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« Reply #76 on: October 19, 2012, 02:44:47 AM »

What's the deal with "totally rad"? Not a native speaker here so I've always wondered why this particular phrase seems to annoy so many hardcore fans.

`Rad` (short for radical) was the sort of word that you would have expected teenage boys, girls and turtles to use at that time. Hearing Al, in his forties at that point, using it just feels like a middle-aged man trying to sound cool and is faintly embarrassing.

Thank you, makes perfect sense to me! I always feel it's way easier for non-native speakers to look past the sometimes embarrassing nature of the group's post-Holland lyrical output.
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« Reply #77 on: October 19, 2012, 09:57:07 PM »


  This one won't let me vote........ I would have gone for KTSA
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« Reply #78 on: October 19, 2012, 10:35:59 PM »

In conclusion, I love both of these albums because of my insane, irrational fandom.  I tend to say BB85 is better because it is simply a far more consistent album.  It stems from a real effort to reinvent the group...for better or worse.  Yes, mostly worse.  But a real effort nonetheless.  It's unique and the song quality (which is dated and not really Beach Boy-esque) is far better in strict "quality" terms.  And I can appreciate it.  It took a lot to appreciate it ...but it is a better "album."  And I like it.


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« Reply #79 on: October 20, 2012, 12:08:27 AM »

What's the deal with "totally rad"? Not a native speaker here so I've always wondered why this particular phrase seems to annoy so many hardcore fans.

`Rad` (short for radical) was the sort of word that you would have expected teenage boys, girls and turtles to use at that time. Hearing Al, in his forties at that point, using it just feels like a middle-aged man trying to sound cool and is faintly embarrassing.
Thanks for explanation, Nicko1234! I wasn't aware of it myself.

It's perhaps the single most embaressing moment in the entire BB catalogue, which is saying something! To get it into perspective, imagine if on one of the TWGMTR songs Al had sung '...and then i started to LOL'.
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« Reply #80 on: October 23, 2012, 11:19:19 AM »

I feel like KTSA could be made into a great mix, like the way we (some Smilers) like to put Smiley-WH-Friends-20/20 together as a perfect mix of awesomeness!

But with KTSA, I think we could make a great mix of songs from MIU/Adult Child/Outtakes from that era/L.A./KTSA, if I wasn't in a hurry, I'd be able to crank out a double LP that would be listenable.
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« Reply #81 on: October 23, 2012, 11:22:44 AM »

I haven't seen: Is "Sunshine" pretty much hated around these parts, or do people like it?

I actually really like the song. It's very up and very Brian to my ears. I like all the songs on side 2 of KTSA for what it's worth, but side 1 is a real let down.
Big fan of Sunshine!
I'm guessing Brian didn't realize there was a song titled this or maybe we woulda got a different track name on the Imagination album. You'd think with Joe Thomas carrying the weight (I thought he was a big fan of the BB) he woulda said, "hey, you prolly don't remember way back to 1980, but you wrote a song with that title already."

But then again, you could say the same about his naming the suite on BW88 Rio Grande, as it was already a title by Al and Gary W. (I think but I could be wrong), but then again, that song was never released, so it's all good.
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« Reply #82 on: October 24, 2012, 09:48:46 AM »

KTSA by a mile. Some good songs notwithstanding (getcha back, sbila, igl, and male ego), 85 is horrible. Their worst effort.
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« Reply #83 on: October 24, 2012, 10:16:14 AM »

it's tied....what will be the tie breaker,who will win???
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« Reply #84 on: October 24, 2012, 10:44:56 AM »

Beach Boys 85 has to win. The idea that Keepin' The Summer Alive is the better album is lunacy i tell you, lunacy!!!!!
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« Reply #85 on: October 24, 2012, 10:59:01 AM »

I feel I must reiterate how strange it is to me that so many people like BB85, I could've sworn before this thread that I was one of the only people who liked it. The only time people posted about this album was to make fun of "Crack at Your Love" for being about butts or something.
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« Reply #86 on: October 24, 2012, 11:09:10 AM »

I'm surprised there are 78 people in the world who care enough about either album to place a vote.
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« Reply #87 on: October 24, 2012, 11:15:00 AM »

I feel I must reiterate how strange it is to me that so many people like BB85, I could've sworn before this thread that I was one of the only people who liked it. The only time people posted about this album was to make fun of "Crack at Your Love" for being about butts or something.

I did once call it the worst album the group made with Brian on this board but I listened to it again with an open mind when this thread came up and realized that it's actually pretty decent.  It's odd and doesn't fit in with the rest of the Beach Boys catalogue but I think in retrospect, that gives it a certain charm.  It's still far from a great album but some of the songs are really good and it's a pleasant album to listen to I think.
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« Reply #88 on: October 24, 2012, 11:21:51 AM »

I feel I must reiterate how strange it is to me that so many people like BB85, I could've sworn before this thread that I was one of the only people who liked it. The only time people posted about this album was to make fun of "Crack at Your Love" for being about butts or something.

I don't know about much of this poll is about liking. More like tolerating.
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« Reply #89 on: October 24, 2012, 12:09:45 PM »

I feel I must reiterate how strange it is to me that so many people like BB85, I could've sworn before this thread that I was one of the only people who liked it. The only time people posted about this album was to make fun of "Crack at Your Love" for being about butts or something.

I don't know about much of this poll is about liking. More like tolerating.

I genuinely really like a comfortable half of Beach Boys '85.
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« Reply #90 on: October 24, 2012, 12:12:44 PM »

I like or love every song on BB'85.
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« Reply #91 on: October 24, 2012, 12:30:48 PM »

I like or love every song on BB'85.

With the exception of It's Just A Matter of Time, me too.
Some albums go well with repeated playings, I think this is one of them.
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« Reply #92 on: October 24, 2012, 01:39:55 PM »

I don't think of myself as an 80's music lover - prefer the 60's and 70's - but I grew up in the 80's, so there is a lingering fondness for much of what I heard on the radio back then. Maybe that's why BB85 doesn't bother me like it does some fans. I'd prefer less synths, but the guys still sound good, some good songs, Carl at his best....also, BW88 is full of synths, and I love that album.
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« Reply #93 on: October 25, 2012, 07:07:22 AM »

BB85. If I've said it once I've said it a thousand times, It's certainly not their best album but it is what it is, a nice pop album from a difficult point in time for older musicians, especially The Beach Boys. Then again, I'm a big fan on the Fairlight, it fascinates me, so that may be a big contributor to why I like that album so much.
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« Reply #94 on: October 25, 2012, 07:37:18 AM »

How about this for a hypothetical BB85 alternative:

1] Chasin' The Sky [Always thought this was album worthy]
2] Getcha Back [Obviously has to be here]
3] It's Gettin' Late
4] Crack At Your Love
5] Maybe I Don't Know [I don't care, I love this one  Tongue]
6] She Believes in Love Again
7] Oh, Lord [If Brian had finished the 1984 recording of it]
8] And I Always Will [I don't know what state of completion the 1985 recording of this is in, but I'm sure it could have been done]
9] Where I Belong
10] California Dreamin'
11] Are You Real [Yeah, the Dennis song, I think this could have been either remixed and tidied up by the boys, similar to how George Harrison remixed "That's The Way It Goes" for the 12" of "When We Was Fab", or re-recorded as a tribute to Dennis]

The remaining six tracks could be spread across B-Sides and version exclusive releases.
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« Reply #95 on: October 25, 2012, 12:56:13 PM »

How about this for a hypothetical BB85 alternative:

1] Chasin' The Sky [Always thought this was album worthy]
2] Getcha Back [Obviously has to be here]
3] It's Gettin' Late
4] Crack At Your Love
5] Maybe I Don't Know [I don't care, I love this one  Tongue]
6] She Believes in Love Again
7] Oh, Lord [If Brian had finished the 1984 recording of it]
8] And I Always Will [I don't know what state of completion the 1985 recording of this is in, but I'm sure it could have been done]
9] Where I Belong
10] California Dreamin'
11] Are You Real [Yeah, the Dennis song, I think this could have been either remixed and tidied up by the boys, similar to how George Harrison remixed "That's The Way It Goes" for the 12" of "When We Was Fab", or re-recorded as a tribute to Dennis]

The remaining six tracks could be spread across B-Sides and version exclusive releases.
I was just about to post something like this!
Add It's a Beautiful Day!
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« Reply #96 on: October 25, 2012, 06:53:58 PM »


I was just about to post something like this!
Add It's a Beautiful Day!
I didn't really consider that one, but I think with a little bit of a remix it would have been one of the best tracks on there.
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« Reply #97 on: October 26, 2012, 08:24:45 AM »

I wonder if on a Chicago message board somewhere, they are doing a Chicago 18 vs. Chicago 19 poll.
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« Reply #98 on: December 18, 2012, 02:11:19 PM »

Ooh, I just voted for BB85, which once again tipped the polls towards... a perfect tie!  Smiley

And yeah, I find BB85 pretty groovy.  Like, a B- kinda groovy.

And I find KTSA less groovy, like a.. C.

I'm being pretty generous...
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« Reply #99 on: December 18, 2012, 09:17:47 PM »

I'd have to go with '85.... despite some decent songs, KTSA has just the most uninspired production  Huh
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