Official thread for Brian & Al's Official Response to Mike/Bruce Band Tour in the LA Times

[filledeplage]

It Ain't Necessrily So.

Both bands played Hampton Beach Casino only weeks apart in 2008.  And play size-comparable venues.  Older theatres.  It is where rock music has taken up residence.  I find it lovely.  Lots of like-minded folks!  And, now we can get a beer! Unlike the 60's!

Sorry because you mentioned Brian`s tickets being the same price I presumed that you must have been talking about the reunion touring band.

In my experience the tickets to Brian`s shows have been much, much more expensive than the tickets to M&B`s shows. That may well not be true for all venues though.

Nah!  Depends on where you sit. Not C50. 

Also depends if you use the resellers to get a better seat, or a credit card promotional presale.  Lots of variables. 

[Jonathan Blum]

Again -- Brian hasn't been preventing "Beach Boys' reunions" by not touring with them, any more than he was doing so in 1965.

A Beach Boys reunion with Mike, Al, David, and Bruce would still interest me a heckuva lot more than just Mike and Bruce.  And we could have had that at any time between 1999 and now -- even if only for short stints because Dave and/or Al don't want to be on the road endlessly.  It's not Brian who was preventing that.

Yes, he HAS been preventing a Beach Boys' reunion for several years. And, yes, the last several years have been different from the time frame 1965 - 1998. From 1965, when Brian stopped touring, until 1983, there was Mike, Al, Bruce, Dennis and Carl in the group, thus, no reason for a reunion.

Yep -- and the touring Beach Boys was usually a damn good group even without Brian.  Which is why a reunion of that group, with David in place of Carl, would still attract me to their shows.

Heck, that band would still be only one member different from the group that did that Number 1 hit which nobody here likes to talk about...

Then, Carl passed and Al left, thus depleting the ranks, and, just by those two leaving, created the potential for a reunion. There were, in effect, just two practicing Beach Boys.

Nah, there were four even before you got to Brian, once Dave came back into the fold.  And I'd much rather have been seeing a Mike-Al-David-Bruce lineup than a Mike-Bruce one for all these years -- that's a reunion we could have had at any point after 1999, if they'd wanted to.

With just Mike and Bruce, I highly doubt they could've gotten a recording contract.

So?  The Beach Boys recording, and the Beach Boys as a band -- guys actually playing music right in front of you -- have been very different games for a long time now.  I agree, the recording side would have depended on Brian...  but I'd still think having the rest of the touring band reunited would have been a much better situation than we got from 1999-2011.

Seriously, picture it.  A touring Beach Boys with the Cowsill/Totten/Kirsch/Bonhomme backline, and the four guys up front, would probably be the best Brianless performing Beach Boys we've seen since Dennis died.  Think about it:  no Baker or Kowalski to let the side down; Dave playing kick-ass guitar better than back in the day; the voice of "Help Me Rhonda" and "Cottonfields" back up front nailing his leads.  Only the lack of Carl would make it less than sublime.  I mean, I loved Mike and Bruce when they played the Opera House with that group, but that's the only one of the many times they played Sydney that I saw them...  adding Al and Dave would have elevated the band from optional to must-see for me.

And they could have put that together at any point, even without Brian.

Doing that now wouldn't be the big 50th, but it would still be a better Beach Boys.

Cheers,
Jon Blum

[Nicko1234]

And they could have put that together at any point, even without Brian.

Why would they have though?

As mentioned previously, seeing Mike, Al, Bruce and David might interest you but it wouldn`t have that much more appeal than the M&B show to the general public. Why would Mike fire his son and hire Al if it were going to be a bad business decision? Especially when he had been trying to kick Al out of the band for many years.

[Heysaboda]

I won't be happy until LA Times prints an official response from Andrew's Fern!

[Jonathan Blum]

Why would they have though?

For the same reason why they brought Carl back into the group in '82, or Bruce in '79:  cause you have a better Beach Boys with them than without them.

Cheers,
Jon Blum

[Nicko1234]

For the same reason why they brought Carl back into the group in '82, or Bruce in '79:  cause you have a better Beach Boys with them than without them.

Cheers,
Jon Blum

It`s a completely different scenario though isn`t it. In the 70s and 80s The Beach Boys were still trying to be a proper band. Still trying to record hit singles and albums. From 1998 until the reunion they were purely a funtime touring band.

[hypehat]

...until they decided to be a proper band again, recording singles and albums, in 2012?

Duh, you said that in your post. I need this coffee.

[Jonathan Blum]

For the same reason why they brought Carl back into the group in '82, or Bruce in '79:  cause you have a better Beach Boys with them than without them.

It`s a completely different scenario though isn`t it. In the 70s and 80s The Beach Boys were still trying to be a proper band. Still trying to record hit singles and albums. From 1998 until the reunion they were purely a funtime touring band.

Except, no.  When Carl came back they had no new album on the horizon (and interestingly, he'd left in part because they weren't planning to work on one).  They were a touring band.  They were no more and no less a touring band in 1997-98, before Al got the boot, when the Beach Boys on the road together were Mike, Bruce, Dave, and Al.

Of course, if they're keeping the door open for doing a new album, and Brian's staying home to work on it...  that's exactly the scenario they've had many times before.   And Mike/Bruce/Dave/Al works as a damn good road band in much the same way Mike/Bruce/Carl/Al/Dennis did...

Cheers,
Jon Blum

[filledeplage]

Again -- Brian hasn't been preventing "Beach Boys' reunions" by not touring with them, any more than he was doing so in 1965.

A Beach Boys reunion with Mike, Al, David, and Bruce would still interest me a heckuva lot more than just Mike and Bruce.  And we could have had that at any time between 1999 and now -- even if only for short stints because Dave and/or Al don't want to be on the road endlessly.  It's not Brian who was preventing that.

Yes, he HAS been preventing a Beach Boys' reunion for several years. And, yes, the last several years have been different from the time frame 1965 - 1998. From 1965, when Brian stopped touring, until 1983, there was Mike, Al, Bruce, Dennis and Carl in the group, thus, no reason for a reunion.

Yep -- and the touring Beach Boys was usually a damn good group even without Brian.  Which is why a reunion of that group, with David in place of Carl, would still attract me to their shows.

Heck, that band would still be only one member different from the group that did that Number 1 hit which nobody here likes to talk about...

Then, Carl passed and Al left, thus depleting the ranks, and, just by those two leaving, created the potential for a reunion. There were, in effect, just two practicing Beach Boys.

Nah, there were four even before you got to Brian, once Dave came back into the fold.  And I'd much rather have been seeing a Mike-Al-David-Bruce lineup than a Mike-Bruce one for all these years -- that's a reunion we could have had at any point after 1999, if they'd wanted to.

With just Mike and Bruce, I highly doubt they could've gotten a recording contract.

So?  The Beach Boys recording, and the Beach Boys as a band -- guys actually playing music right in front of you -- have been very different games for a long time now.  I agree, the recording side would have depended on Brian...  but I'd still think having the rest of the touring band reunited would have been a much better situation than we got from 1999-2011.

Seriously, picture it.  A touring Beach Boys with the Cowsill/Totten/Kirsch/Bonhomme backline, and the four guys up front, would probably be the best Brianless performing Beach Boys we've seen since Dennis died.  Think about it:  no Baker or Kowalski to let the side down; Dave playing kick-ass guitar better than back in the day; the voice of "Help Me Rhonda" and "Cottonfields" back up front nailing his leads.  Only the lack of Carl would make it less than sublime.  I mean, I loved Mike and Bruce when they played the Opera House with that group, but that's the only one of the many times they played Sydney that I saw them...  adding Al and Dave would have elevated the band from optional to must-see for me.

And they could have put that together at any point, even without Brian.

Doing that now wouldn't be the big 50th, but it would still be a better Beach Boys.

Cheers,
Jon Blum

Interesting that you mention the Touring Band lineup as a going-forward concept.  And, the voice of Carl.  For a lot of the more "sublime" work, Christian is remarkably reminiscent of Carl.  Not everything, range-wise, but where it matters.  Good Vibrations.  Family vocal cords.  Wow. 

People talk about too over-the-top.  Maybe with production, but, not so much with the musicians, who almost replicated, the fullness of the studio.  It was that percussion, sax, xylophone, woodwind and brass, that provided that "wall of sound."

Somehow, Chicago [of Beachago  ] is able to get more musician power and on smaller venue stages.  And they can connect better with their fans, and seem much more laid-back and relaxed, somehow in a great give-and-take with the audience. 

And, Brian seems to like the road better.  He look radiant in those RAH photos.  Those pictures are worth a thousand words.

[Shady]

I'm surprised this ended with Brian and Al's statement.

When is David sending his into the LA Times?

[Ted]

I'm surprised this ended with Brian and Al's statement.

When is David sending his into the LA Times?

He's waiting to see what Jeff has to say.

[KittyKat]

Al didn't have an official response. It was Brian or his publicists reporting second hand that Al wanted to continue to tour. The statement said David wanted to continue as well, so that should count as David's POV if it counts as Al's.

BTW, Al has now disavowed being in favor of the fan petition for the tour to continue. He released a statement that a fan put that link up on his Facebook page. Considering it was also on his Twitter page and fans aren't allowed to post links there, it does seem he had something to do with endorsing it, but now he's backing away.

[Rocky Raccoon]

Al didn't have an official response. It was Brian or his publicists reporting second hand that Al wanted to continue to tour. The statement said David wanted to continue as well, so that should count as David's POV if it counts as Al's.

BTW, Al has now disavowed being in favor of the fan petition for the tour to continue. He released a statement that a fan put that link up on his Facebook page. Considering it was also on his Twitter page and fans aren't allowed to post links there, it does seem he had something to do with endorsing it, but now he's backing away.

Always keeping it clean.

[ontor pertawst]

Damn Al Jardine fans, always guessing his passwords...

[Nicko1234]

Except, no.  When Carl came back they had no new album on the horizon (and interestingly, he'd left in part because they weren't planning to work on one).  They were a touring band.  They were no more and no less a touring band in 1997-98, before Al got the boot, when the Beach Boys on the road together were Mike, Bruce, Dave, and Al.

Of course, if they're keeping the door open for doing a new album, and Brian's staying home to work on it...  that's exactly the scenario they've had many times before.   And Mike/Bruce/Dave/Al works as a damn good road band in much the same way Mike/Bruce/Carl/Al/Dennis did...

Cheers,
Jon Blum

In 2012/3 would that fourpiece work as a business though? That`s the question isn`t it. If Mike were to kick his son out of the band and bring Al in then it would have to make business sense.

And Mike and Carl obviously obviously never had wuite the problems that Mike and Al had.

[Magic Transistor Radio]

Let's look on the positive side. Another reunion is happening. John Stamos with Mike and Bruce!

[Dave in KC]

For the same reason why they brought Carl back into the group in '82, or Bruce in '79:  cause you have a better Beach Boys with them than without them.

It`s a completely different scenario though isn`t it. In the 70s and 80s The Beach Boys were still trying to be a proper band. Still trying to record hit singles and albums. From 1998 until the reunion they were purely a funtime touring band.

Except, no.  When Carl came back they had no new album on the horizon (and interestingly, he'd left in part because they weren't planning to work on one).  They were a touring band.  They were no more and no less a touring band in 1997-98, before Al got the boot, when the Beach Boys on the road together were Mike, Bruce, Dave, and Al.
Beautiful Dreamer

Of course, if they're keeping the door open for doing a new album, and Brian's staying home to work on it...  that's exactly the scenario they've had many times before.   And Mike/Bruce/Dave/Al works as a damn good road band in much the same way Mike/Bruce/Carl/Al/Dennis did...

Cheers,
Jon Blum

[Rocker]

I didn't want to post in this thread as I said all I had to say, but I stumbled across these two articles.


Mike Showing Some Love To The Beach Boys
http://www.cashboxcanada.ca/3317/mike-showing-some-love-beach-boys


Memories of Michael Love!
http://www.cashboxcanada.ca/3325/memories-michael-love

[ontor pertawst]

Memories of Michael Love!
http://www.cashboxcanada.ca/3325/memories-michael-love

As the conversation with David Spero and Mike Love continued, the hotel called to tell us that hundreds of female fans laid siege to the hotel lobby. To keep it all safe, Mike decided not to leave the station and stayed on the air.

Verily, it is written.



Fig. 1242. Mike Love, keeping it all safe.

[hypehat]

"Er, Michael, there appear to be hordes of women storming the station. What will you do?"

Michael looks at the intern, the glare piercing his very soul. His motion of opening a tattered pack of unfiltered Camel cigarettes, striking a match on the desk and inhaling wearily all seem mechanical, yet his eyes do not lose their power. The intern gulps as Michael Love finally breaks the gaze to look up at the stairway of smoke his cigarette created, and then exhales, obliterating the wisping column in one breath. So it goes, Mike's look appears to say, a wry smile breaking on his lips. The intern thinks better of mentioning the no-smoking ban.

"We Unleash The Love." He replies.





The DJ sighs, and cues up Kokomo.

[SMiLE Brian]

  Hypehat, You should write a novel about Mike Love.

[Letsgoawayforawhile]

"Er, Michael, there appear to be hordes of women storming the station. What will you do?"

Michael looks at the intern, the glare piercing his very soul. His motion of opening a tattered pack of unfiltered Camel cigarettes, striking a match on the desk and inhaling wearily all seem mechanical, yet his eyes do not lose their power. The intern gulps as Michael Love finally breaks the gaze to look up at the stairway of smoke his cigarette created, and then exhales, obliterating the wisping column in one breath. So it goes, Mike's look appears to say, a wry smile breaking on his lips. The intern thinks better of mentioning the no-smoking ban.

"We Unleash The Love." He replies.





The DJ sighs, and cues up Kokomo.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
So perfect.

[hypehat]

Hypehat, You should write a novel about Mike Love.

With Nanowrimo coming up, I could use a subject....

[seltaeb1012002]

"Er, Michael, there appear to be hordes of women storming the station. What will you do?"

Michael looks at the intern, the glare piercing his very soul. His motion of opening a tattered pack of unfiltered Camel cigarettes, striking a match on the desk and inhaling wearily all seem mechanical, yet his eyes do not lose their power. The intern gulps as Michael Love finally breaks the gaze to look up at the stairway of smoke his cigarette created, and then exhales, obliterating the wisping column in one breath. So it goes, Mike's look appears to say, a wry smile breaking on his lips. The intern thinks better of mentioning the no-smoking ban.

"We Unleash The Love." He replies.





The DJ sighs, and cues up Kokomo.

  LOL'd at the ending.

[SMiLE Brian]

Hypehat, You should write a novel about Mike Love.

With Nanowrimo coming up, I could use a subject....

Historical Fiction novel about Mike's adventures making Country Love or SIP.