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Author Topic: Official thread for Brian & Al's Official Response to Mike/Bruce Band Tour in the LA Times  (Read 96834 times)
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« on: October 09, 2012, 07:56:22 AM »

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-brian-wilson-al-jardine-respond-to-mike-love-on-beach-boys-flap-20121008,0,6270223.story?track=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=95857

Great read.
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2012, 07:56:41 AM »

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-brian-wilson-al-jardine-respond-to-mike-love-on-beach-boys-flap-20121008,0,6270223.story?page=1


headline says it all
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2012, 07:57:02 AM »

damn you beat me
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2012, 07:57:23 AM »

nevermind
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2012, 07:58:46 AM »

Aw yeah, now we're talking.

Grab the popcorn and put your cursor on Refresh, kids. This thread's gonna be fun.
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« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2012, 07:59:35 AM »

This whole ordeal is a huge bummer.
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« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2012, 08:00:53 AM »

This whole ordeal is a huge bummer.
I just hope it's a an extremely clever marketing stunt...
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« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2012, 08:09:31 AM »

This whole ordeal is a huge bummer.
I just hope it's a an extremely clever marketing stunt...

Suspect it is.

Brian's line:
Quote from: Brian Wilson
That's it in a nutshell, all these conversations need to be between the shareholders, and I welcome Mike to call me.

… speaks volumes – since when weren't Brian and Mike able to call each other any time they liked? No need for an invitation via the LA Times.

Playing games with the fan base, nothing more.

And possibly a strong hint about a NY BB50 concert!
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« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2012, 08:10:00 AM »

Oh you have got to be sh*tting me. This will culminate in either a) Al & Brian challenging Mike & Bruce to a duel on the red carpet at The Grammys next year or b) The Beach Boys 51st Anniversary Reunion Tour. Or possibly both.

It is fun to read and try and spot where the facade of writing in Brian's voice slips, such as in that line you quoted, John.
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« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2012, 08:21:25 AM »

An utterly ludicrous situation.  Smiley

The comments about Brian`s attorney suggesting a press release should be made and then Brian being blindsided by it and disappointed that Mike should say that it was Brian`s representative`s idea are bizarre...
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« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2012, 08:23:46 AM »

My goodness, it's going on and on. Brian (okay, he seldomly seems like he knows what's going on) and Al (okay, he's crazy) should know, after being in the business for over 50 years that Mike can't just break the contracts he had signed before the reunion tour. As someone else mentioned in another thread, brian, Al and David certainly won't play those shows without being paid.
I'm really happy to see how happy Brian was/is about being a Beach Boy again. But he (they) should definitely get better attorneys or for a change just talk personally with his bandmate/cousin, of course the same goes for Mike.

Great to see what kind of offers they got (Madison Square Garden? Wow) but what should Mike do? Cancel the shows he and Bruce booked before the Beach Boys tour for playing the Hollywood Bowl instead and leaving the people who bought tickets for the smaller Mike&Bruce show standing in the rain without getting a replacement?

I'm really not a fan of Mike but this time Brian and Al did the wrong thing imo. Of course both of them have every right to play in the Beach Boys and Brian imo is still the boss of the band. But you gotta be realistic in this case. If you want to go out again just talk about it in private and see when the next chance is.
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2012, 08:27:08 AM »

I am with Brian & Al on this one. If they have offers to play Madison Sq. Garden, Hollywood Bowl, etc. Then that blows Mike's argument out of the water.

I should modify my statement and say, getting back together after the New Year.
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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2012, 08:28:49 AM »

Rocker, I'm going to get the controversy rolling and state that if Mike & Bruce booked their own shows during the reunion celebration, that would in fact make them the asshole. Oh, Mike of little faith?
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« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2012, 08:28:56 AM »

And here we go...

Sounds the Boys are getting offers to play some HUGE venues but we know how Mike feels about playing venues the require more that a van to play in.

Let's be honest, Mike really f***ed this up. Common sense should have prevailed on his part, he knew how things were going and the fact he booked shows while the tour was going on is so slimy.

I actually believe Brian and Al, they must be upset.
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« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2012, 08:31:07 AM »

Besides the Benefit show and the New Year's Eve show, which shows were booked during the Reunion Tour?
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And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2012, 08:32:20 AM »

Besides the Benefit show and the New Year's Eve show, which shows were booked during the Reunion Tour?

Anything that's already been announced - the tour only finished two weeks ago! And isn't there one on the cards for 2013?

Besides, even if they only booked one show it would still be the asshole move.
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« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2012, 08:34:55 AM »

Besides the Benefit show and the New Year's Eve show, which shows were booked during the Reunion Tour?

Anything that's already been announced - the tour only finished two weeks ago! And isn't there one on the cards for 2013?

Besides, even if they only booked one show it would still be the asshole move.
You are right, but there were shows booked prior to announcing the Reunion Tour, as well.
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And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
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« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2012, 08:35:14 AM »

Look, Mike has been proving for five decades now that he's a prick. All the attempted revisionism by Mike, his publicist and members here can't change that. Mike's actions always speak louder than his words.
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« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2012, 08:35:42 AM »

Hmmm....Y'think Melinda actually wrote that?
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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2012, 08:38:28 AM »

This is crazy but now it is simple. Things are now clear cut:

1. I wanted proof that Brian wanted to continue touring as a Beach Boy and now I got it. No more speculating. We don't know to what extent, but he has now made his wishes known to SOME extent.

2. After the current Mike & Bruce shows are completed, shows that were booked months ago, it is up to the guys to meet, discuss, and VOTE as to the future of the group. Their respective votes will be PROOF as to their positions.

3. This goes for all of them....These issues should not have been aired in public. After living for 70 years, and being in the business for 51 years, they have learned nothing. Nothing.
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« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2012, 08:39:28 AM »

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/posts/la-et-ms-brian-wilson-al-jardine-respond-to-mike-love-on-beach-boys-flap-20121008,0,6270223.story?page=1&utm_medium=twitter&dlvrit=95857&utm_source=dlvr.it&track=rss

Something that confuses me...

"After Mike booked a couple of shows with Bruce, Al and I were, of course, disappointed. Then there was confusion in some markets when photos of me, Al and David and the 50th reunion band appeared on websites advertising his shows.

At that point my attorney merely suggested to Mike's attorney that a possible press release in those markets might be appropriate to stop the confusion, which was in no one's best interest. That's it, plain and simple, and a strategy was open for discussion, which never happened.
That’s why I was completely blindsided by his press release. I had no idea that it was coming out, since it was crafted by Mike's personal PR firm without my knowledge or approval. No one in my camp would have approved it or the timing."

OK, so far so good. But...

"I'm disappointed that Mike would now say that the release was done at the request of my representative"

Errr... but it was, as stated just a few lines earlier. Brian's attorney made a suggestion and Mike's people acted upon it, slightly more so than was possibly expected (shades of Becket)... but fact is, according to what "Brian" has said, Mike issued his statement at the request/suggestion of Brian's representative.

BTW, according to Rolling Stone, Brian was aware of the October M&B shows back in late June, so I'm struggling to see exactly how that constitutes being "blindsided".

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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2012, 08:39:57 AM »

Hmmm....Y'think Melinda actually wrote that?

Probably the mysterious Jean Siever
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« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2012, 08:43:37 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2012, 08:44:06 AM »

Besides the Benefit show and the New Year's Eve show, which shows were booked during the Reunion Tour?

Anything that's already been announced - the tour only finished two weeks ago! And isn't there one on the cards for 2013?

Besides, even if they only booked one show it would still be the asshole move.
You are right, but there were shows booked prior to announcing the Reunion Tour, as well.

They had no compulsion about cancelling some shows with a symphony because of the reunion. So what?

If that piece is to be believed, Mike turned down more shows. Big shows. New Years Eve shows. Massive events. And for what?
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« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2012, 08:44:26 AM »

Pre-Holiday publicity to get people talking about the Beach Boys. IMO of course.
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