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« Reply #300 on: February 21, 2015, 01:05:23 PM »



It's actually unfortunate, as the wording of some of the blurbs have implied you can't just buy the single track on its own. They obviously want lots of album pre-orders, but some idiots like me will buy the one download right now and then still buy the whole album on CD as well.

Don't quite see how that makes you an idiot, purchasing both.  Bill Maher was on last night with Aloe Blacc talking about composers making essentially no money these days, thanks to Spotify, etc.  Maher spoke to value for money and how he is STILL listening to music he bought 40 years ago, so he got real value for money there - sorry for the paraphrase, but that's the essence of what he said.  How many of your 40 year old purchases are still valuable to you?  We're still obsessing over Pet Sounds, Smile, Love You, etc...

I guess that's why I get on here sometimes annoyed with all the whining about money or nit-picking the work Brian has put his heart into.  HE'S the artist...and while you have a "right to your opinion," you don't get to vote on what he produces, other than whether you buy it or not.  It's that simple.  The autographed official surfboard is too expensive?  Don't buy it - just get the music.  Some other collector will buy it and love it.  

Brian has put his heart and soul into his work.  I can't tell you how many times in my brief time with him that I saw people running up to Brian thanking him for "saving my life," "getting me through a bad time," etc.  He's STILL giving us his heart with this new work.  Can't we just say thanks once in awhile?


Debbie; you have some solid points here; and Bill Maher is right on the mark.  I bought my original copy of Pet Sounds , day of release , at a store called Great Eastern Mills in Elmont, L.I. , NY.  I paid , if I recall correctly , $2.79.   I still have that copy, what 49 years later ? 17,800 days comes out to $0.00015 per day ? Pretty damn good value for a record I still play religiously.

I have been fortunate enough to have spent all sorts of time at Ocean Way and several other studio's with Brian.  Sometimes I would hear something I thought could be different or he could make better , in my mind , but I have an internal governor that always says to me: " he has sold 150 million records; I have sold exactly zero...shut the f..k up"  . Works like a charm for me.

$0.00015/day.  That's probably fair, I think..
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« Reply #301 on: February 21, 2015, 01:09:15 PM »



It's actually unfortunate, as the wording of some of the blurbs have implied you can't just buy the single track on its own. They obviously want lots of album pre-orders, but some idiots like me will buy the one download right now and then still buy the whole album on CD as well.

Don't quite see how that makes you an idiot, purchasing both.  Bill Maher was on last night with Aloe Blacc talking about composers making essentially no money these days, thanks to Spotify, etc.  Maher spoke to value for money and how he is STILL listening to music he bought 40 years ago, so he got real value for money there - sorry for the paraphrase, but that's the essence of what he said.  How many of your 40 year old purchases are still valuable to you?  We're still obsessing over Pet Sounds, Smile, Love You, etc...

I guess that's why I get on here sometimes annoyed with all the whining about money or nit-picking the work Brian has put his heart into.  HE'S the artist...and while you have a "right to your opinion," you don't get to vote on what he produces, other than whether you buy it or not.  It's that simple.  The autographed official surfboard is too expensive?  Don't buy it - just get the music.  Some other collector will buy it and love it.  

Brian has put his heart and soul into his work.  I can't tell you how many times in my brief time with him that I saw people running up to Brian thanking him for "saving my life," "getting me through a bad time," etc.  He's STILL giving us his heart with this new work.  Can't we just say thanks once in awhile?


Debbie; you have some solid points here; and Bill Maher is right on the mark.  I bought my original copy of Pet Sounds , day of release , at a store called Great Eastern Mills in Elmont, L.I. , NY.  I paid , if I recall correctly , $2.79.   I still have that copy, what 49 years later ? 17,800 days comes out to $0.00015 per day ? Pretty damn good value for a record I still play religiously.

I have been fortunate enough to have spent all sorts of time at Ocean Way and several other studio's with Brian.  Sometimes I would hear something I thought could be different or he could make better , in my mind , but I have an internal governor that always says to me: " he has sold 150 million records; I have sold exactly zero...shut the f..k up"  . Works like a charm for me.

$0.00015/day.  That's probably fair, I think..

Does that include the tax?
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« Reply #302 on: February 21, 2015, 01:11:51 PM »



It's actually unfortunate, as the wording of some of the blurbs have implied you can't just buy the single track on its own. They obviously want lots of album pre-orders, but some idiots like me will buy the one download right now and then still buy the whole album on CD as well.

Don't quite see how that makes you an idiot, purchasing both.  Bill Maher was on last night with Aloe Blacc talking about composers making essentially no money these days, thanks to Spotify, etc.  Maher spoke to value for money and how he is STILL listening to music he bought 40 years ago, so he got real value for money there - sorry for the paraphrase, but that's the essence of what he said.  How many of your 40 year old purchases are still valuable to you?  We're still obsessing over Pet Sounds, Smile, Love You, etc...

I guess that's why I get on here sometimes annoyed with all the whining about money or nit-picking the work Brian has put his heart into.  HE'S the artist...and while you have a "right to your opinion," you don't get to vote on what he produces, other than whether you buy it or not.  It's that simple.  The autographed official surfboard is too expensive?  Don't buy it - just get the music.  Some other collector will buy it and love it.  

Brian has put his heart and soul into his work.  I can't tell you how many times in my brief time with him that I saw people running up to Brian thanking him for "saving my life," "getting me through a bad time," etc.  He's STILL giving us his heart with this new work.  Can't we just say thanks once in awhile?


Debbie; you have some solid points here; and Bill Maher is right on the mark.  I bought my original copy of Pet Sounds , day of release , at a store called Great Eastern Mills in Elmont, L.I. , NY.  I paid , if I recall correctly , $2.79.   I still have that copy, what 49 years later ? 17,800 days comes out to $0.00015 per day ? Pretty damn good value for a record I still play religiously.

I have been fortunate enough to have spent all sorts of time at Ocean Way and several other studio's with Brian.  Sometimes I would hear something I thought could be different or he could make better , in my mind , but I have an internal governor that always says to me: " he has sold 150 million records; I have sold exactly zero...shut the f..k up"  . Works like a charm for me.

$0.00015/day.  That's probably fair, I think..

Does that include the tax?

Wow, another factor I hadn't considered.  ;-) 
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« Reply #303 on: February 21, 2015, 04:20:54 PM »

No Pier Pressure will be the first cd I've purchased in 3 years. I'm as excited as a 14 year old watching Porky's. Cool

I'm beyond excited for this album. I listend to the samples on good earphones and the songs sound even better.

By the way, on earphones "Runaway dancer" really jumps, I never imagined a 72 year old Brian Wilson getting funky. I love it  Grin
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« Reply #304 on: February 21, 2015, 06:01:21 PM »

Did Dave also play those licks in the solo section,

Ya know, it’s entirely possible. He did multiple takes with different effects and those parts could have been mixed in and out in any number of ways. The solo section doesn’t jump out at me as sounding overly “David” like the outro does. However, he was playing a little more inside the box on this session than he usually does and David playing a tame (for him) solo could easily slip past my ear’s radar. I wish I could say for sure. 
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« Reply #305 on: February 21, 2015, 07:32:32 PM »

Anyone who thinks this song is disappointing, I suggest they imagine it as a closing track for 'Today!' in place of 'Bull Session', realize it's 50 years later and reappraise.
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« Reply #306 on: February 23, 2015, 01:17:36 AM »

I have been fortunate enough to have spent all sorts of time at Ocean Way and several other studio's with Brian.  Sometimes I would hear something I thought could be different or he could make better , in my mind , but I have an internal governor that always says to me: " he has sold 150 million records; I have sold exactly zero...shut the f..k up"  . Works like a charm for me.

Mr. Lawlor, that internal governor's argument would be only valid if you had spent about as much time making records as Brian has - and if then you had sold zero records, the governor's argument would stand. I say it's ok to make an suggestion once in a while, even to a genius. Smiley
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« Reply #307 on: February 23, 2015, 08:40:16 AM »

Thank you Carrie. The more Dave the better, as I see it. I find his playing here akin to his work on Summer's Gone and Strange World (strangely un-credited on liner notes). It also sounds much like Dave's solo work, jazzy adaptation of surf themes in an artful, contemplative style--the mark of maturation and sophistication one would expect from a classic surf player, then academically trained, working with BW.

All in all, it's a major artistic accomplishment, and I hope the 3 boys get some love for it.

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Did Dave also play those licks in the solo section,

Ya know, it’s entirely possible. He did multiple takes with different effects and those parts could have been mixed in and out in any number of ways. The solo section doesn’t jump out at me as sounding overly “David” like the outro does. However, he was playing a little more inside the box on this session than he usually does and David playing a tame (for him) solo could easily slip past my ear’s radar. I wish I could say for sure. 
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« Reply #308 on: February 23, 2015, 01:48:48 PM »

I have been fortunate enough to have spent all sorts of time at Ocean Way and several other studio's with Brian.  Sometimes I would hear something I thought could be different or he could make better , in my mind , but I have an internal governor that always says to me: " he has sold 150 million records; I have sold exactly zero...shut the f..k up"  . Works like a charm for me.

Mr. Lawlor, that internal governor's argument would be only valid if you had spent about as much time making records as Brian has - and if then you had sold zero records, the governor's argument would stand. I say it's ok to make an suggestion once in a while, even to a genius. Smiley

Why do you call him Mr. Lawlor?
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« Reply #309 on: February 23, 2015, 01:52:20 PM »

I have been fortunate enough to have spent all sorts of time at Ocean Way and several other studio's with Brian.  Sometimes I would hear something I thought could be different or he could make better , in my mind , but I have an internal governor that always says to me: " he has sold 150 million records; I have sold exactly zero...shut the f..k up"  . Works like a charm for me.

Mr. Lawlor, that internal governor's argument would be only valid if you had spent about as much time making records as Brian has - and if then you had sold zero records, the governor's argument would stand. I say it's ok to make an suggestion once in a while, even to a genius. Smiley

Why do you call him Mr. Lawlor?

They haven't been formally/personally introduced?
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« Reply #310 on: February 23, 2015, 09:39:59 PM »

I have been fortunate enough to have spent all sorts of time at Ocean Way and several other studio's with Brian.  Sometimes I would hear something I thought could be different or he could make better , in my mind , but I have an internal governor that always says to me: " he has sold 150 million records; I have sold exactly zero...shut the f..k up"  . Works like a charm for me.

Mr. Lawlor, that internal governor's argument would be only valid if you had spent about as much time making records as Brian has - and if then you had sold zero records, the governor's argument would stand. I say it's ok to make an suggestion once in a while, even to a genius. Smiley

Why do you call him Mr. Lawlor?

Kind of out of respect - he's a close friend to Brian's so... you think it's inappropriate?
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« Reply #311 on: February 23, 2015, 10:28:04 PM »

I have been fortunate enough to have spent all sorts of time at Ocean Way and several other studio's with Brian.  Sometimes I would hear something I thought could be different or he could make better , in my mind , but I have an internal governor that always says to me: " he has sold 150 million records; I have sold exactly zero...shut the f..k up"  . Works like a charm for me.

Mr. Lawlor, that internal governor's argument would be only valid if you had spent about as much time making records as Brian has - and if then you had sold zero records, the governor's argument would stand. I say it's ok to make an suggestion once in a while, even to a genius. Smiley

Why do you call him Mr. Lawlor?

Kind of out of respect - he's a close friend to Brian's so... you think it's inappropriate?

No, not at all.   I've seen it before on here.  I find it.. odd. 
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« Reply #312 on: February 23, 2015, 10:38:52 PM »

It's not that odd, Ms Honey  Grin
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« Reply #313 on: February 23, 2015, 10:56:06 PM »

Why do you call him Mr. Lawlor?

Kind of out of respect - he's a close friend to Brian's so... you think it's inappropriate?

That's Mr Wilson to you!

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« Reply #314 on: February 23, 2015, 11:18:44 PM »

It's not that odd, Ms Honey  Grin

Well it could be MRS Honey? Wink   
Why do you call him Mr. Lawlor?

Kind of out of respect - he's a close friend to Brian's so... you think it's inappropriate?

That's Mr Wilson to you!

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Yes, that's what I mean I suppose Smiley   I don't feel the need to call anyone Mr, Miss, Ms or Mrs on here.  Doesn't mean I don't respect them.   Anyway, enough derailment from me  Razz
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« Reply #315 on: February 23, 2015, 11:53:28 PM »

It's not that odd, Ms Honey  Grin

Well it could be MRS Honey? Wink  

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« Reply #316 on: February 24, 2015, 01:02:56 PM »

Why do you call him Mr. Lawlor?

Kind of out of respect - he's a close friend to Brian's so... you think it's inappropriate?

That's Mr Wilson to you!

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I think that's what I would call him if I met him in person. OK, I'm odd. Smiley
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« Reply #317 on: February 24, 2015, 07:00:11 PM »

let's get this back on track, please: I want to hear more about the song, it's art, its reception, its production, its fate, etc. I see 37000 listens on the youtube video. Is that a good start?
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« Reply #318 on: February 24, 2015, 07:41:32 PM »

let's get this back on track, please: I want to hear more about the song, it's art, its reception, its production, its fate, etc. I see 37000 listens on the youtube video. Is that a good start?
Over 56,000 if you count the trailer. Cool
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« Reply #319 on: February 24, 2015, 09:09:53 PM »

Actually, I think that's either Ms. or Mrs. "Wild-Honey," based on the actual screen name, n'est-ce pas??  3D

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« Reply #320 on: February 24, 2015, 10:44:15 PM »

Why do you call him Mr. Lawlor?

Kind of out of respect - he's a close friend to Brian's so... you think it's inappropriate?

That's Mr Wilson to you!

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I think that's what I would call him if I met him in person. OK, I'm odd. Smiley

Might be a cultural thing, as calling someone by their first name is a different thing for us Germans than it is for Americans.
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« Reply #321 on: February 25, 2015, 06:27:18 PM »

In the south it's considered a sign of respect you show someone until you know them personally, or they provide you a reason not to show them anymore respect Smiley
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