The Smiley Smile Message Board
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
If you like this message board, please help with the hosting costs!
680740
Posts in
27613
Topics by
4068
Members - Latest Member:
Dae Lims
April 18, 2024, 08:42:16 AM
The Smiley Smile Message Board
|
Smiley Smile Stuff
|
General On Topic Discussions
|
50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.
« previous
next »
Pages:
1
[
2
]
3
Author
Topic: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?) (Read 12914 times)
Shady
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 6483
I had to fix a lot of things this morning
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #25 on:
October 03, 2012, 11:46:44 AM »
Quote from: Aegir on October 02, 2012, 01:51:08 AM
oh god Wild Honey is AMAZING WHY DON'T THEY RELEASE THE WHOLE DAMN ALBUM!!!!!!!!!?
??
It's a mystery
Logged
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on October 24, 2011, 11:14:41 PM
According to someone who would know.
Quote from: AvanTodd on January 17, 2015, 07:48:15 PM
Seriously, there was a Beach Boys Love You condom?! Amazing.
Cabinessenceking
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 2164
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #26 on:
October 03, 2012, 01:14:13 PM »
Quote from: Slim Shady on October 03, 2012, 11:46:44 AM
Quote from: Aegir on October 02, 2012, 01:51:08 AM
oh god Wild Honey is AMAZING WHY DON'T THEY RELEASE THE WHOLE DAMN ALBUM!!!!!!!!!?
??
It's a mystery
they will, but there is no point dumping 10 albums on the market at one time. because these albums are not only reissues, but stereo mixes, they want people to pick up everything. For example, WH would compete with Smiley Smile, many would perhaps not buy both, but give it a year or so, then perhaps one can get more cash from both of them (whih is the ultimate goal). If this is not the case, then capitol might consider WH so worthless than no one would buy a stereo issue anyway. who knows?
Logged
Heysaboda
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 1054
Son, don't wait till the break of day....
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #27 on:
October 03, 2012, 01:42:27 PM »
Quote from: Slim Shady on October 03, 2012, 11:46:44 AM
Quote from: Aegir on October 02, 2012, 01:51:08 AM
oh god Wild Honey is AMAZING WHY DON'T THEY RELEASE THE WHOLE DAMN ALBUM!!!!!!!!!?
??
It's a mystery
wrapped in a riddle
Logged
Son, don't wait till the break of day 'cause you know how time fades away......
Freddie French-Pounce
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 1571
A.K.A. mrmoustachioto
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #28 on:
October 04, 2012, 11:43:39 AM »
incase anyones wondering, a selection of the remasters got taken down, so i took the rest down to save my youtube channel. Sorry 'bout that, but I like me channel as it is.
Logged
Check out the Mono/Stereo Mix Breakdown podcast Mixology here:
https://mixology.podbean.com/
Cabinessenceking
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 2164
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #29 on:
October 04, 2012, 12:40:15 PM »
I am
shocked
disgusted, that there is no single version of California, R'nR Music, It's OK and Here Comes The Night (1979) on 50BO.
Logged
Pretty Funky
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 5861
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #30 on:
October 04, 2012, 03:13:55 PM »
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on October 01, 2012, 11:24:44 AM
Quote from: Menace Wilson on October 01, 2012, 10:52:16 AM
Sorry if this has been discussed already. I just found this stereo remix of "Darlin" from the 50 Big Ones Greatest Hits set, and was blown away!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeXHu5-Y_cY
Does anybody have more info on this thing? Are there other new stereo remixes? Or anything else new, period?
Uh... try reading the liner notes ?
Those in the US are looking forward to doing so......Oct 9
Logged
Al Jardine: Pick Up Artist
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 298
I am an asexual walrus
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #31 on:
October 04, 2012, 05:01:22 PM »
Hmmm.
Is PLMW from the 2012 mix of Today!? It sounds a lot worse than the one released a few years ago.
Or I'm going insane, and it's the same one.
Logged
Quote from: Bubba Ho-Tep on March 09, 2013, 04:59:49 PM
Which song: Inappropriate relationship with sister-in-law
Which song: Gonna straight up bang you with "the wood".
Which song: Weather conditions make me horny
Which song: Lack of proper shoes leads to potential blood poisoning and death.
Which song: Who needs church? Let's do it on the couch.
Quote from: Don Malcolm on May 30, 2013, 07:35:10 PM
Dennis: "Holy sh*t, Al, you're finally showing signs of developing facial hair!!!"
grillo
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 725
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #32 on:
October 04, 2012, 07:46:10 PM »
Quote from: Cactus on October 04, 2012, 05:01:22 PM
Hmmm.
Is PLMW from the 2012 mix of Today!? It sounds a lot worse than the one released a few years ago.
Or I'm going insane, and it's the same one.
I don't know, but I've always thought the stereo mix of PLMW sounded kinda out of sync, definitely too mid-rangy and the organ bass is almost inaudible. For some reason those mono mixes from 64-67 sound so fuckin full I think all the stereo mixes (except Pet Sounds) are way lacking.
Logged
“You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
― Richard Buckminster Fuller
Freddie French-Pounce
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 1571
A.K.A. mrmoustachioto
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #33 on:
October 04, 2012, 10:49:56 PM »
Quote from: grillo on October 04, 2012, 07:46:10 PM
Quote from: Cactus on October 04, 2012, 05:01:22 PM
Hmmm.
Is PLMW from the 2012 mix of Today!? It sounds a lot worse than the one released a few years ago.
Or I'm going insane, and it's the same one.
I don't know, but I've always thought the stereo mix of PLMW sounded kinda out of sync, definitely too mid-rangy and the organ bass is almost inaudible. For some reason those mono mixes from 64-67 sound so f***in full I think all the stereo mixes (except Pet Sounds) are way lacking.
They've re mixed the mono mix too - it sounds like a mono stereo mix (if that makes sense)
Logged
Check out the Mono/Stereo Mix Breakdown podcast Mixology here:
https://mixology.podbean.com/
Cabinessenceking
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 2164
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #34 on:
October 25, 2012, 04:39:58 PM »
The new mixes for WH and Darlin' are slightly disappointing for me in terms of stereo release. I just feel they are hardly stereo at all when I hear them next to the new stereo Smiley material. They sound more conservative, as if longing to be refreshed mono mixes rather than fullblown stereo like on Smiley. The sound is MUCH cleaner and buried instruments (most notably the trumpet on the second verse in Darlin') and harmonies pop out better which is ofc great in any respect, but there is little stereo seperation which makes me wonder why they mixed them in such a conservative fashion?
Logged
drbeachboy
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 5214
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #35 on:
October 25, 2012, 04:49:40 PM »
I think Darlin' sounds terrific. Geez, the opening vocals jump right out at you. It is the rare stereo mix that actually sounds punchier than its mono counterpart. The fact the horns can he heard in the second verse says the stereo really separates the instrumentation. With Wild Honey, I really enjoy hearing those clear, crisp background vocals. They are near buried in the mono mix. I am quite happy with the way both turned out. Cheers to Mark Linett!
«
Last Edit: October 25, 2012, 06:40:02 PM by drbeachboy
»
Logged
The Brianista Prayer
Oh Brian
Thou Art In Hawthorne,
Harmonied Be Thy name
Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
Amen. ---hypehat
runnersdialzero
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 5143
I WILL NEVER GO TO SCHOOL
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #36 on:
October 25, 2012, 06:18:57 PM »
Quote from: Cabinessenceking on October 04, 2012, 12:40:15 PM
I am
shocked
disgusted, that there is no single version of California, R'nR Music, It's OK and Here Comes The Night (1979) on 50BO.
"Californa" single mix is said to be in poor shape, R'nR music fair enough, It's OK isn't so much a remix as it is very slightly sped up (thus why bother?), and HCTN79, ehhhh.
Logged
Tell me it's okay.
Tell me you still love me.
People make mistakes.
People make mistakes.
♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇
Pissing off drunks since 1978
Global Moderator
Offline
Posts: 11846
🍦🍦 Pet Demon for Sale - $5 or best offer ☮☮
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #37 on:
October 25, 2012, 06:27:30 PM »
I don't understand why they were used on the Best of the Brother Years comp, then.
Logged
Need your song mixed/mastered? Contact me at
fear2stop@yahoo.com
. Serious inquiries only, please!
runnersdialzero
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 5143
I WILL NEVER GO TO SCHOOL
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #38 on:
October 25, 2012, 06:58:18 PM »
Quote from: mrmoustachioto on October 04, 2012, 10:49:56 PM
They've re mixed the mono mix too - it sounds like a mono stereo mix (if that makes sense)
I think it's just remastered, not remixed. It'd be noted in the insert if it were.
Quote from: The Amazing World of Billy Castillo on October 25, 2012, 06:27:30 PM
I don't understand why they were used on the Best of the Brother Years comp, then.
"California" sounds like dicks on there, though, and it's not due to being a poor mix. "It's OK" is okay as a completist, but just sounds odd in comparison to the original. Feels unnecessary - the songs really should just be presented in their best form.
«
Last Edit: October 25, 2012, 07:14:09 PM by runnersdialzero!
»
Logged
Tell me it's okay.
Tell me you still love me.
People make mistakes.
People make mistakes.
Runaways
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 2008
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #39 on:
October 25, 2012, 07:57:24 PM »
some of the stereo mixes/remasters are pretty narrow for stereo. Like Linett was going for a stereo mix circa 1965. PLMW on Summer Love Songs was a lot wider I thought.
Logged
♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇
Pissing off drunks since 1978
Global Moderator
Offline
Posts: 11846
🍦🍦 Pet Demon for Sale - $5 or best offer ☮☮
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #40 on:
October 25, 2012, 08:15:11 PM »
Quote from: runnersdialzero! on October 25, 2012, 06:58:18 PM
Quote from: mrmoustachioto on October 04, 2012, 10:49:56 PM
They've re mixed the mono mix too - it sounds like a mono stereo mix (if that makes sense)
I think it's just remastered, not remixed. It'd be noted in the insert if it were.
Quote from: The Amazing World of Billy Castillo on October 25, 2012, 06:27:30 PM
I don't understand why they were used on the Best of the Brother Years comp, then.
"California" sounds like dicks on there, though, and it's not due to being a poor mix. "It's OK" is okay as a completist, but just sounds odd in comparison to the original. Feels unnecessary - the songs really should just be presented in their best form.
I never noticed an issue with 'California' or 'Rock and Roll Music' on that comp, but I hate the single mix of 'It's Ok'. The speed change just sounds
off
to me
Logged
Need your song mixed/mastered? Contact me at
fear2stop@yahoo.com
. Serious inquiries only, please!
EgoHanger1966
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 2891
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #41 on:
October 25, 2012, 08:22:31 PM »
Quote from: Runaways on October 25, 2012, 07:57:24 PM
some of the stereo mixes/remasters are pretty narrow for stereo. Like Linett was going for a stereo mix circa 1965. PLMW on Summer Love Songs was a lot wider I thought.
That's the thing - 60s stereo mixes were wide! To have them be narrow may make 'em sound more like the mono mix, but a traditional hard left/right/vocal center thing is really a more accurate (and 'honest', to my ears) route.
Logged
Hal Blaine:"You're gonna get a tomata all over yer puss!"
Brian: "Don't say puss."
Freddie French-Pounce
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 1571
A.K.A. mrmoustachioto
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #42 on:
October 25, 2012, 11:54:40 PM »
Quote from: The Amazing World of Billy Castillo on October 25, 2012, 08:15:11 PM
Quote from: runnersdialzero! on October 25, 2012, 06:58:18 PM
Quote from: mrmoustachioto on October 04, 2012, 10:49:56 PM
They've re mixed the mono mix too - it sounds like a mono stereo mix (if that makes sense)
I think it's just remastered, not remixed. It'd be noted in the insert if it were.
Quote from: The Amazing World of Billy Castillo on October 25, 2012, 06:27:30 PM
I don't understand why they were used on the Best of the Brother Years comp, then.
"California" sounds like dicks on there, though, and it's not due to being a poor mix. "It's OK" is okay as a completist, but just sounds odd in comparison to the original. Feels unnecessary - the songs really should just be presented in their best form.
I never noticed an issue with 'California' or 'Rock and Roll Music' on that comp, but I hate the single mix of 'It's Ok'. The speed change just sounds
off
to me
my 45's of the above (UK copies) doesn't feature the single mix of California, but does for R&RMusic. It's O.K. is unsure to me, it has alot more punch in the Bass kicks, but it sounds the same speed to me - or is my turntable too slow (45 can be questionable sometimes).
Which makes me ask the other question, does the "California Saga (California): Sail On, Sailor/Marcella: I'm The Pied Piper" EP thing have the single mix or not?
Logged
Check out the Mono/Stereo Mix Breakdown podcast Mixology here:
https://mixology.podbean.com/
Cabinessenceking
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 2164
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #43 on:
October 26, 2012, 07:04:20 AM »
Quote from: runnersdialzero! on October 25, 2012, 06:18:57 PM
Quote from: Cabinessenceking on October 04, 2012, 12:40:15 PM
I am
shocked
disgusted, that there is no single version of California, R'nR Music, It's OK and Here Comes The Night (1979) on 50BO.
"Californa" single mix is said to be in poor shape, R'nR music fair enough, It's OK isn't so much a remix as it is very slightly sped up (thus why bother?), and HCTN79, ehhhh.
I was joking about the last one
tbh none of this made very much difference other than California and RnR!
Logged
lance
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 1018
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #44 on:
October 26, 2012, 07:11:00 AM »
Personally I don't agree that Linnett should be doing ultra-wide 'sixties style' mixes.
Logged
GuyOnTheBeach
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 288
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #45 on:
October 26, 2012, 09:09:54 AM »
I always wondered, in cases when the master is f*cked, such as the master for the single mix of "California" (IIRC the title track for The Beatles' Sgt. Pepper album is beyond playable too and every remaster from the 80's C.D onwards are sourced from a dub), why they don't just go back to the multis and make an identical mix.
Logged
SloopJohnB52
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 58
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #46 on:
October 26, 2012, 09:21:53 AM »
For recordings made in the sixties, I feel it's only appropriate that they should be mixed the same way as was done at the time: W-I-D-E STEREO! The new stereo mixes on the album reissues and compilations are so narrow, they shouldn't have even bothered. If SMiLE ever comes out in stereo, I'm afraid it will be narrow as well. (I'm currently working on a super-wide "Wonderful" mix that hopefully will be faithful to that style).
Logged
drbeachboy
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 5214
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #47 on:
October 26, 2012, 09:45:57 AM »
Quote from: GuyOnTheBeach on October 26, 2012, 09:09:54 AM
I always wondered, in cases when the master is f*cked, such as the master for the single mix of "California" (IIRC the title track for The Beatles' Sgt. Pepper album is beyond playable too and every remaster from the 80's C.D onwards are sourced from a dub), why they don't just go back to the multis and make an identical mix.
All those tunes on the Brother Years are digital. Adding them to 50 Big Ones would have been no problem. Except for futzing, they would sound the same as on the 2000 CD. To me there is no excuse not to include them, except that they didn't want to use those single versions.
Logged
The Brianista Prayer
Oh Brian
Thou Art In Hawthorne,
Harmonied Be Thy name
Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
Amen. ---hypehat
lance
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 1018
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #48 on:
October 26, 2012, 10:24:44 AM »
Quote from: SloopJohnB52 on October 26, 2012, 09:21:53 AM
For recordings made in the sixties, I feel it's only appropriate that they should be mixed the same way as was done at the time: W-I-D-E STEREO! The new stereo mixes on the album reissues and compilations are so narrow, they shouldn't have even bothered. If SMiLE ever comes out in stereo, I'm afraid it will be narrow as well. (I'm currently working on a super-wide "Wonderful" mix that hopefully will be faithful to that style).
Yeah see, I don't agree with that or follow the logic. Why? so we can fantasize we're actually listening in 1965 to a contemporary stereo mix that in reality never existed?
I'm not looking to start a fight, I just don't see the problem, personally. I like most of Linnett's mixes, though I haven't heard the latest ones yet. A few of the Today mixes I've heard were not that great but otherwise, I like them. I think the point of the (new) stereo mixes is to hear the music in a way we haven't heard before, to get more details and such; so that's why I am not bothered if they are 'wide' or 'narrow'. But, to each their own, I'm not an audiophile to nearly the extent that some of y'all are, so...
If they were going for authenticity they'd probably have the backing track in mono and the double tracked vocals on either side of the stereo, Chuck Britz style. Chuck Britz's mixes sound like crap to me.
«
Last Edit: October 26, 2012, 10:30:49 AM by lance
»
Logged
Rocker
Smiley Smile Associate
Online
Gender:
Posts: 10628
"Too dumb for New York City, too ugly for L.A."
Re: 50 Big Ones (Remixes?)
«
Reply #49 on:
October 26, 2012, 11:54:49 AM »
Was this already posted? "Remixing GV to stereo"-report
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyk9GKFasjY
Logged
a diseased bunch of mo'fos if there ever was one… their beauty is so awesome that listening to them at their best is like being in some vast dream cathedral decorated with a thousand gleaming American pop culture icons.
- Lester Bangs on The Beach Boys
PRO SHOT BEACH BOYS CONCERTS - LIST
To sum it up, they blew it, they blew it consistently, they continue to blow it, it is tragic and this pathological problem caused The Beach Boys' greatest music to be so underrated by the general public.
- Jack Rieley
Pages:
1
[
2
]
3
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
Smiley Smile Stuff
-----------------------------
=> BRIAN WILSON Q & A
=> Welcome to the Smiley Smile board
=> General On Topic Discussions
===> Ask The Honored Guests
===> Smiley Smile Reference Threads
=> Smile Sessions Box Set (2011)
=> The Beach Boys Media
=> Concert Reviews
=> Album, Book and Video Reviews And Discussions
===> 1960's Beach Boys Albums
===> 1970's Beach Boys Albums
===> 1980's Beach Boys Albums
===> 1990's Beach Boys Albums
===> 21st Century Beach Boys Albums
===> Brian Wilson Solo Albums
===> Other Solo Albums
===> Produced by or otherwise related to
===> Tribute Albums
===> DVDs and Videos
===> Book Reviews
===> 'Rank the Tracks'
===> Polls
-----------------------------
Non Smiley Smile Stuff
-----------------------------
=> General Music Discussion
=> General Entertainment Thread
=> Smiley Smilers Who Make Music
=> The Sandbox
Powered by SMF 1.1.21
|
SMF © 2015, Simple Machines
Page created in 3.703 seconds with 22 queries.
Helios Multi
design by
Bloc
Loading...