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Topic: ISN'T IT TIME SINGLE VERSION (BBC Radio 2) LISTEN NOW (Read 47830 times)
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Re: ISN'T IT TIME SINGLE VERSION (BBC Radio 2) LISTEN NOW
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Quote from: sweetdudejim on September 11, 2012, 06:32:31 PM
Quote from: Ron on September 11, 2012, 12:06:14 AM
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Your smugness makes me wanna puke. I'd cheer the f*** up if you disappeared from the board.
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Re: ISN'T IT TIME SINGLE VERSION (BBC Radio 2) LISTEN NOW
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Quote from: sweetdudejim on September 11, 2012, 06:32:31 PM
Quote from: Ron on September 11, 2012, 12:06:14 AM
Ohhhh, you live in negative bullsh*t land. You should have clued me in on that to begin with.
Personally, I live in "I like happy things" land. When I hear songs on the radio, I don't cry about it and remember how my dad beat me once and my puppy that ran away when I was 8. O.K., maybe I do. But still, I generally listen to the radio to ENJOY IT.
This constant "Well... at 3:14 in the song, one guy farts in the background. The fart sounds synthesized, I want more real farting" that all you nerds do everytime something AWESOME happens is below you. You're better than that.
So in closing, I'd like to say: Cheer the f*** up.
Your smugness makes me wanna puke. I'd cheer the f*** up if you disappeared from the board. We don't have to like every single thing the band does.
By the way, I like the new version of "Isn't It Time". I don't know if I prefer it to the album version but whatever.
I guess when one finally realizes that this board in not a fan board, then what you say is correct. I think people forget what "fan" is short for. Ron fits the definition of "fan" more so than a lot of what I see here. I mean dumping on a song that is sourced from internet radio drives me crazy, especially after what we went through for weeks when TWGMTR was released on internet radio. The song sounded no where near as bad once it was released on CD. I am amazed that we have to criticize them before the recording is actually released.
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The Brianista Prayer
Oh Brian
Thou Art In Hawthorne,
Harmonied Be Thy name
Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
Amen. ---hypehat
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Re: ISN'T IT TIME SINGLE VERSION (BBC Radio 2) LISTEN NOW
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Reply #227 on:
September 11, 2012, 10:12:15 PM »
Quote from: drbeachboy on September 11, 2012, 07:57:55 PM
Quote from: sweetdudejim on September 11, 2012, 06:32:31 PM
Quote from: Ron on September 11, 2012, 12:06:14 AM
Ohhhh, you live in negative bullsh*t land. You should have clued me in on that to begin with.
Personally, I live in "I like happy things" land. When I hear songs on the radio, I don't cry about it and remember how my dad beat me once and my puppy that ran away when I was 8. O.K., maybe I do. But still, I generally listen to the radio to ENJOY IT.
This constant "Well... at 3:14 in the song, one guy farts in the background. The fart sounds synthesized, I want more real farting" that all you nerds do everytime something AWESOME happens is below you. You're better than that.
So in closing, I'd like to say: Cheer the f*** up.
Your smugness makes me wanna puke. I'd cheer the f*** up if you disappeared from the board. We don't have to like every single thing the band does.
By the way, I like the new version of "Isn't It Time". I don't know if I prefer it to the album version but whatever.
I guess when one finally realizes that this board in not a fan board, then what you say is correct. I think people forget what "fan" is short for. Ron fits the definition of "fan" more so than a lot of what I see here. I mean dumping on a song that is sourced from internet radio drives me crazy, especially after what we went through for weeks when TWGMTR was released on internet radio. The song sounded no where near as bad once it was released on CD. I am amazed that we have to criticize them before the recording is actually released.
I have no problem with people liking stuff. For pete's sake, I
like
the new version of "Isn't It Time". My problem is Ron always coming into threads like "gee, you guys just don't get it, you're too busy trying to be cool", instead of understanding that hey, maybe a few people just don't like "Kokomo", regardless of it's pop culture status, or they don't like Mike Love, or John Stamos, or whatever. And once again, let me clarify, I like "Kokomo" and Mike Love, but he seems to paint those with a more "artsy" view as being somehow less honest with themselves. Too "serious" to have good ol' Amurrrican fun. I however don't think these people are being dishonest with themselves, I just think they were voicing their opinion. And I'm pretty sure everybody on this board is a fan. It is possible that their favorite stuff from the group is from like 45 years ago, but whatever. We are all fans and to questions one's "fanaticism" I think is lame.
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Re: ISN'T IT TIME SINGLE VERSION (BBC Radio 2) LISTEN NOW
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Quote from: FatherOfTheMan on September 11, 2012, 01:18:07 PM
Omg Brian Wilson's twitter/facebook Linked to the video of the currently unreleased song
Does this make my link official fodder?
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Re: ISN'T IT TIME SINGLE VERSION (BBC Radio 2) LISTEN NOW
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Reply #229 on:
September 12, 2012, 02:11:30 AM »
Quote from: sweetdudejim on September 11, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
Quote from: drbeachboy on September 11, 2012, 07:57:55 PM
Quote from: sweetdudejim on September 11, 2012, 06:32:31 PM
Quote from: Ron on September 11, 2012, 12:06:14 AM
Ohhhh, you live in negative bullsh*t land. You should have clued me in on that to begin with.
Personally, I live in "I like happy things" land. When I hear songs on the radio, I don't cry about it and remember how my dad beat me once and my puppy that ran away when I was 8. O.K., maybe I do. But still, I generally listen to the radio to ENJOY IT.
This constant "Well... at 3:14 in the song, one guy farts in the background. The fart sounds synthesized, I want more real farting" that all you nerds do everytime something AWESOME happens is below you. You're better than that.
So in closing, I'd like to say: Cheer the f*** up.
Your smugness makes me wanna puke. I'd cheer the f*** up if you disappeared from the board. We don't have to like every single thing the band does.
By the way, I like the new version of "Isn't It Time". I don't know if I prefer it to the album version but whatever.
I guess when one finally realizes that this board in not a fan board, then what you say is correct. I think people forget what "fan" is short for. Ron fits the definition of "fan" more so than a lot of what I see here. I mean dumping on a song that is sourced from internet radio drives me crazy, especially after what we went through for weeks when TWGMTR was released on internet radio. The song sounded no where near as bad once it was released on CD. I am amazed that we have to criticize them before the recording is actually released.
I have no problem with people liking stuff. For pete's sake, I
like
the new version of "Isn't It Time". My problem is Ron always coming into threads like "gee, you guys just don't get it, you're too busy trying to be cool", instead of understanding that hey, maybe a few people just don't like "Kokomo", regardless of it's pop culture status, or they don't like Mike Love, or John Stamos, or whatever. And once again, let me clarify, I like "Kokomo" and Mike Love, but he seems to paint those with a more "artsy" view as being somehow less honest with themselves. Too "serious" to have good ol' Amurrrican fun. I however don't think these people are being dishonest with themselves, I just think they were voicing their opinion. And I'm pretty sure everybody on this board is a fan. It is possible that their favorite stuff from the group is from like 45 years ago, but whatever. We are all fans and to questions one's "fanaticism" I think is lame.
I agree, Jim. If everyone liked everything by the Beach Boys, that wouldn't open up for much fruitful discussion. Personally, I don't really like most of Brian's solo work post 'Imagination', I definitely don't like Carl's solo albums, and I don't really think TWGMTR is all that, but does that make me a lesser fan than someone who unfiltered takes anything produced by Brian Wilson, or anything that has a connotation to the Beach Boys?
Of course not. Being someone who has studied sound and music, I have my way of interpreting their music, my way of analyzing their works, comparing, critiquing, etc. I don't expect everyone else to listen for the same things as I do, or having the same perception, but I do expect to NOT be questioned whether I'm a true fan or not. And I do think that having about 350 Beach Boys/Wilson/related CDs should speak for something.
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Re: ISN'T IT TIME SINGLE VERSION (BBC Radio 2) LISTEN NOW
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Reply #230 on:
September 12, 2012, 04:19:27 AM »
Quote from: sweetdudejim on September 11, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
Quote from: drbeachboy on September 11, 2012, 07:57:55 PM
Quote from: sweetdudejim on September 11, 2012, 06:32:31 PM
Quote from: Ron on September 11, 2012, 12:06:14 AM
Ohhhh, you live in negative bullsh*t land. You should have clued me in on that to begin with.
Personally, I live in "I like happy things" land. When I hear songs on the radio, I don't cry about it and remember how my dad beat me once and my puppy that ran away when I was 8. O.K., maybe I do. But still, I generally listen to the radio to ENJOY IT.
This constant "Well... at 3:14 in the song, one guy farts in the background. The fart sounds synthesized, I want more real farting" that all you nerds do everytime something AWESOME happens is below you. You're better than that.
So in closing, I'd like to say: Cheer the f*** up.
Your smugness makes me wanna puke. I'd cheer the f*** up if you disappeared from the board. We don't have to like every single thing the band does.
By the way, I like the new version of "Isn't It Time". I don't know if I prefer it to the album version but whatever.
I guess when one finally realizes that this board in not a fan board, then what you say is correct. I think people forget what "fan" is short for. Ron fits the definition of "fan" more so than a lot of what I see here. I mean dumping on a song that is sourced from internet radio drives me crazy, especially after what we went through for weeks when TWGMTR was released on internet radio. The song sounded no where near as bad once it was released on CD. I am amazed that we have to criticize them before the recording is actually released.
I have no problem with people liking stuff. For pete's sake, I
like
the new version of "Isn't It Time". My problem is Ron always coming into threads like "gee, you guys just don't get it, you're too busy trying to be cool", instead of understanding that hey, maybe a few people just don't like "Kokomo", regardless of it's pop culture status, or they don't like Mike Love, or John Stamos, or whatever. And once again, let me clarify, I like "Kokomo" and Mike Love, but he seems to paint those with a more "artsy" view as being somehow less honest with themselves. Too "serious" to have good ol' Amurrrican fun. I however don't think these people are being dishonest with themselves, I just think they were voicing their opinion. And I'm pretty sure everybody on this board is a fan. It is possible that their favorite stuff from the group is from like 45 years ago, but whatever. We are all fans and to questions one's "fanaticism" I think is lame.
I think critiqing the sound of a song with dubious origins is lame, as well. We all know how crappy streaming can be, so to make judgments that it is really how it will sound is really unfair to the artist and a waste of time.
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The Brianista Prayer
Oh Brian
Thou Art In Hawthorne,
Harmonied Be Thy name
Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
Amen. ---hypehat
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Re: ISN'T IT TIME SINGLE VERSION (BBC Radio 2) LISTEN NOW
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Reply #231 on:
September 12, 2012, 04:34:41 AM »
Quote from: drbeachboy on September 12, 2012, 04:19:27 AM
Quote from: sweetdudejim on September 11, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
Quote from: drbeachboy on September 11, 2012, 07:57:55 PM
Quote from: sweetdudejim on September 11, 2012, 06:32:31 PM
Quote from: Ron on September 11, 2012, 12:06:14 AM
Ohhhh, you live in negative bullsh*t land. You should have clued me in on that to begin with.
Personally, I live in "I like happy things" land. When I hear songs on the radio, I don't cry about it and remember how my dad beat me once and my puppy that ran away when I was 8. O.K., maybe I do. But still, I generally listen to the radio to ENJOY IT.
This constant "Well... at 3:14 in the song, one guy farts in the background. The fart sounds synthesized, I want more real farting" that all you nerds do everytime something AWESOME happens is below you. You're better than that.
So in closing, I'd like to say: Cheer the f*** up.
Your smugness makes me wanna puke. I'd cheer the f*** up if you disappeared from the board. We don't have to like every single thing the band does.
By the way, I like the new version of "Isn't It Time". I don't know if I prefer it to the album version but whatever.
I guess when one finally realizes that this board in not a fan board, then what you say is correct. I think people forget what "fan" is short for. Ron fits the definition of "fan" more so than a lot of what I see here. I mean dumping on a song that is sourced from internet radio drives me crazy, especially after what we went through for weeks when TWGMTR was released on internet radio. The song sounded no where near as bad once it was released on CD. I am amazed that we have to criticize them before the recording is actually released.
I have no problem with people liking stuff. For pete's sake, I
like
the new version of "Isn't It Time". My problem is Ron always coming into threads like "gee, you guys just don't get it, you're too busy trying to be cool", instead of understanding that hey, maybe a few people just don't like "Kokomo", regardless of it's pop culture status, or they don't like Mike Love, or John Stamos, or whatever. And once again, let me clarify, I like "Kokomo" and Mike Love, but he seems to paint those with a more "artsy" view as being somehow less honest with themselves. Too "serious" to have good ol' Amurrrican fun. I however don't think these people are being dishonest with themselves, I just think they were voicing their opinion. And I'm pretty sure everybody on this board is a fan. It is possible that their favorite stuff from the group is from like 45 years ago, but whatever. We are all fans and to questions one's "fanaticism" I think is lame.
I think critiqing the sound of a song with dubious origins is lame, as well. We all know how crappy streaming can be, so to make judgments that it is really how it will sound is really unfair to the artist and a waste of time.
I don't think anyone is critiquing the actual
sound quality
of the song (e.g. "it's crap because it's encoded to 128kbps" or "the stream only has a sample rate of 22,050 Hz, so the version sucks"), but rather the unnecessary use of auto-tune, reverb and other sound effects. Not to mention new vocal takes, missing falsettos, etc. These are all fair attributes to analyze and critique, regardless of sound quality.
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Re: ISN'T IT TIME SINGLE VERSION (BBC Radio 2) LISTEN NOW
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Reply #232 on:
September 12, 2012, 05:36:33 AM »
Quote from: sweetdudejim on September 11, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
Quote from: drbeachboy on September 11, 2012, 07:57:55 PM
Quote from: sweetdudejim on September 11, 2012, 06:32:31 PM
Quote from: Ron on September 11, 2012, 12:06:14 AM
Ohhhh, you live in negative bullsh*t land. You should have clued me in on that to begin with.
Personally, I live in "I like happy things" land. When I hear songs on the radio, I don't cry about it and remember how my dad beat me once and my puppy that ran away when I was 8. O.K., maybe I do. But still, I generally listen to the radio to ENJOY IT.
This constant "Well... at 3:14 in the song, one guy farts in the background. The fart sounds synthesized, I want more real farting" that all you nerds do everytime something AWESOME happens is below you. You're better than that...
So in closing, I'd like to say: Cheer the f*** up.
Your smugness makes me wanna puke. I'd cheer the f*** up if you disappeared from the board. We don't have to like every single thing the band does.
By the way, I like the new version of "Isn't It Time". I don't know if I prefer it to the album version but whatever.
I guess when one finally realizes that this board in not a fan board, then what you say is correct. I think people forget what "fan" is short for. Ron fits the definition of "fan" more so than a lot of what I see here. I mean dumping on a song that is sourced from internet radio drives me crazy, especially after what we went through for weeks when TWGMTR was released on internet radio. The song sounded no where near as bad once it was released on CD. I am amazed that we have to criticize them before the recording is actually released.
I have no problem with people liking stuff. For pete's sake, I
like
the new version of "Isn't It Time". My problem is Ron always coming into threads like "gee, you guys just don't get it, you're too busy trying to be cool", instead of understanding that hey, maybe a few people just don't like "Kokomo", regardless of it's pop culture status, or they don't like Mike Love, or John Stamos, or whatever. And once again, let me clarify, I like "Kokomo" and Mike Love, but he seems to paint those with a more "artsy" view as being somehow less honest with themselves. Too "serious" to have good ol' Amurrrican fun. I however don't think these people are being dishonest with themselves, I just think they were voicing their opinion. And I'm pretty sure everybody on this board is a fan. It is possible that their favorite stuff from the group is from like 45 years ago, but whatever. We are all fans and to questions one's "fanaticism" I think is lame.
People often forget that Kokomo was a movie soundtrack hit, coming out of nowhere, with Tom Cruise's box office appeal and perhaps, like everything else that takes off, a matter of timing. Right movie, and a "sound" in perfect sync. Post the Iran Contra hearings. So serious and enlightening and intense. The States, were ready for a break, some fun, a vacation.
It does not seem to me unlike the post Vietnam era resurgence in BB interest.
People were ready for TWGMTR. As technology progressed at warp speed, it was lovely to look in the rear view mirror and see where it all began and pay rightful tribute. One of the coolest things that has emerged as it were from this reunion as I see it, is that a lot of fans who came aboard the BB ship, via Brian's individual work, have seen the BAND, meld onstage, and get a visual of the collective love of the music, despite whatever circumstances. It has brought people together under the same banner. Now each faction, as it were, sees the other's point of view, and can better appreciate their ability to get onstage with all three bands and see them as the pros that they are. It was one of the coolest things for me to see Cowsill and Bragg, Von Mertens do his thing during Rhonda, Bennett and Gregory rock out behind the lines, dancin' Darian, Micky slide into the kit, and really have a blast! (They got into a different groove; the Beach Boys groove!) And hear booming Foskett, intro BRI - AN Wilson!
Never mind the arty stuff. Dave Marks, who was not part of Pet Sounds, stepped into his zone, and led the charge for the Pet Sounds instrumental, as the guitar virtuoso that he grew into. They all crosssed the bridge into each other's "zone" as it were and appeared to thoroughly enjoy it! So, the "factionization" lines seem to be blurred, and I think it is a great thing. They each have had a taste of the other's wine. I think the video wall spoke volumes of their shared vision and history, despite whatever hardships, mistakes (that we all make) and ultimate survival. We're surprised. They are surprised. But the glue of the old toiling in the studio and family and neighborhood/school bond was unbroken. When they took the stage, the synergy was still there. And many of us, who saw the the three bands, under whatever banner, just to hear the music, lived to witness that day. People can just relax and enjoy.
But, to say one likes "everything" shows a basic lack of discrimination. One might find something "redeeming" in a work. Doesn't mean you have to like it or make it a steady diet. Being fussy and discriminating is a good thing. There are enough sheep in the world.
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Re: ISN'T IT TIME SINGLE VERSION (BBC Radio 2) LISTEN NOW
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The only thing that really struck me as bad on the original was Brian's opening, and I know a lot of people agreed with me, so they rework it and leave in the same poor sounding vocals. They changed things that were fine and left Brian's gruff vocals in.......why? Had they done a retake on Brian's opening and added some voices WITH Jeff's part then it would have been really good IMO. Instead, there are now 2 versions of a potentially great song that are not so great.
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Re: ISN'T IT TIME SINGLE VERSION (BBC Radio 2) LISTEN NOW
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September 12, 2012, 07:18:04 AM »
Quote from: tansen on September 12, 2012, 04:34:41 AM
Quote from: drbeachboy on September 12, 2012, 04:19:27 AM
Quote from: sweetdudejim on September 11, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
Quote from: drbeachboy on September 11, 2012, 07:57:55 PM
Quote from: sweetdudejim on September 11, 2012, 06:32:31 PM
Quote from: Ron on September 11, 2012, 12:06:14 AM
Ohhhh, you live in negative bullsh*t land. You should have clued me in on that to begin with.
Personally, I live in "I like happy things" land. When I hear songs on the radio, I don't cry about it and remember how my dad beat me once and my puppy that ran away when I was 8. O.K., maybe I do. But still, I generally listen to the radio to ENJOY IT.
This constant "Well... at 3:14 in the song, one guy farts in the background. The fart sounds synthesized, I want more real farting" that all you nerds do everytime something AWESOME happens is below you. You're better than that.
So in closing, I'd like to say: Cheer the f*** up.
Your smugness makes me wanna puke. I'd cheer the f*** up if you disappeared from the board. We don't have to like every single thing the band does.
By the way, I like the new version of "Isn't It Time". I don't know if I prefer it to the album version but whatever.
I guess when one finally realizes that this board in not a fan board, then what you say is correct. I think people forget what "fan" is short for. Ron fits the definition of "fan" more so than a lot of what I see here. I mean dumping on a song that is sourced from internet radio drives me crazy, especially after what we went through for weeks when TWGMTR was released on internet radio. The song sounded no where near as bad once it was released on CD. I am amazed that we have to criticize them before the recording is actually released.
I have no problem with people liking stuff. For pete's sake, I
like
the new version of "Isn't It Time". My problem is Ron always coming into threads like "gee, you guys just don't get it, you're too busy trying to be cool", instead of understanding that hey, maybe a few people just don't like "Kokomo", regardless of it's pop culture status, or they don't like Mike Love, or John Stamos, or whatever. And once again, let me clarify, I like "Kokomo" and Mike Love, but he seems to paint those with a more "artsy" view as being somehow less honest with themselves. Too "serious" to have good ol' Amurrrican fun. I however don't think these people are being dishonest with themselves, I just think they were voicing their opinion. And I'm pretty sure everybody on this board is a fan. It is possible that their favorite stuff from the group is from like 45 years ago, but whatever. We are all fans and to questions one's "fanaticism" I think is lame.
I think critiqing the sound of a song with dubious origins is lame, as well. We all know how crappy streaming can be, so to make judgments that it is really how it will sound is really unfair to the artist and a waste of time.
I don't think anyone is critiquing the actual
sound quality
of the song (e.g. "it's crap because it's encoded to 128kbps" or "the stream only has a sample rate of 22,050 Hz, so the version sucks"), but rather the unnecessary use of auto-tune, reverb and other sound effects. Not to mention new vocal takes, missing falsettos, etc. These are all fair attributes to analyze and critique, regardless of sound quality.
Yeah, and the autotune, reverb, etc. turned out to not be as bad as what was streaming on the Internet. Like here in this thread, we went on pages upon pages blasting the sound, only to find out what we were listening to was not what was eventually released. Sure, to debate new lyrics, missing falsettos is all fine and good, but much of what's been posted has been about sound quality. Then after release we'll have another ten pages of mia culpa's saying it wasn't as bad as first thought. Oh well....
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The Brianista Prayer
Oh Brian
Thou Art In Hawthorne,
Harmonied Be Thy name
Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
Amen. ---hypehat
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Re: ISN'T IT TIME SINGLE VERSION (BBC Radio 2) LISTEN NOW
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September 12, 2012, 01:46:53 PM »
^^ I don't know about that. The Auto-Tune became
more
apparent to me when i actually heard the record compared to the snippet previews online. One can make the argument that the clarity of the album's full sound reveals what's already there and might have been obscured some by streaming quality. I don't think that much of what's been posted about the new single has been about
sound quality
. By the way, i say this as someone who thinks the new single isn't bad other than the Auto-Tune.
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Re: ISN'T IT TIME SINGLE VERSION (BBC Radio 2) LISTEN NOW
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September 12, 2012, 02:40:20 PM »
Quote from: monicker on September 12, 2012, 01:46:53 PM
^^ I don't know about that. The Auto-Tune became
more
apparent to me when i actually heard the record compared to the snippet previews online. One can make the argument that the clarity of the album's full sound reveals what's already there and might have been obscured some by streaming quality. I don't think that much of what's been posted about the new single has been about
sound quality
. By the way, i say this as someone who thinks the new single isn't bad other than the Auto-Tune.
Yep. Exactly. The critique has not been about the quality of the sound. In fact, reverb, auto-tune, phasers, flangers, chorus, delays, etc, etc, do not have anything to do with sound quality - which again make them valid things to point out and review and give opinions on.
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Quote from: monicker on September 12, 2012, 01:46:53 PM
^^ I don't know about that. The Auto-Tune became
more
apparent to me when i actually heard the record compared to the snippet previews online. One can make the argument that the clarity of the album's full sound reveals what's already there and might have been obscured some by streaming quality. I don't think that much of what's been posted about the new single has been about
sound quality
. By the way, i say this as someone who thinks the new single isn't bad other than the Auto-Tune.
This^
The conversation is starting to remind me of the time an ebay seller became incredibly furious with me when I suggested his vivid description of the stereo effects on a UK stereo copy of Beach Boys Party was a bit rum given that it was reprocessed stereo. He actually claimed that the only way to get enough quality from the record to be able to tell one way or the other was by hearing a copy that had been played less than three times, and he estimated there to be three copies known to exist in that state, in the world.
He also claimed it was true stereo, with all kinds of psychy panning etc
You can tell all you need to know from that clip. They've made the arrangement less good, the lyrics less good, and autotuned the piss out of the vocals to the point where it actually sounds like a joke. The original version had it's flaws, but this is just a total ruination
It's a shame- imagine if this song had the same sort of delirious, swinging looseness as 'our team' or something. I actually think they WOULD be in with a chance of a hit in that situation. This sounds dated already, in the way a relatively straight recording of people singing and playing instruments will never sound, regardless of the era/gear it was recorded on.
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Quote from: monicker on September 12, 2012, 01:46:53 PM
^^ I don't know about that. The Auto-Tune became
more
apparent to me when i actually heard the record compared to the snippet previews online. One can make the argument that the clarity of the album's full sound reveals what's already there and might have been obscured some by streaming quality. I don't think that much of what's been posted about the new single has been about
sound quality
. By the way, i say this as someone who thinks the new single isn't bad other than the Auto-Tune.
F
ucking ass-liar, everyone knows poor quality recordings create autotune. I encoded "A Day In The Life Of A Tree" at 32kbps mono and Jack sounded like f
ucking Freddie Mercury on speed in his precision with the vocal. Like Michael Jackson after injecting 30000IU caffeine into his testicles or Gene Simmons injecting money into his scrotum. It is the best vocal you've ever heard.
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Quote from: stamosluvr69 on September 12, 2012, 05:00:29 PM
Quote from: monicker on September 12, 2012, 01:46:53 PM
^^ I don't know about that. The Auto-Tune became
more
apparent to me when i actually heard the record compared to the snippet previews online. One can make the argument that the clarity of the album's full sound reveals what's already there and might have been obscured some by streaming quality. I don't think that much of what's been posted about the new single has been about
sound quality
. By the way, i say this as someone who thinks the new single isn't bad other than the Auto-Tune.
F
ucking ass-liar, everyone knows poor quality recordings create autotune. I encoded "A Day In The Life Of A Tree" at 32kbps mono and Jack sounded like f
ucking Freddie Mercury on speed in his precision with the vocal. Like Michael Jackson after injecting 30000IU caffeine into his testicles or Gene Simmons injecting money into his scrotum. It is the best vocal you've ever heard.
omg runners thats lyke rly rly wierd!!!!!1 i couldve sworn that a day in the tree of a life was sung by ringo and not jack lennon lyke ur claming! im gnna have 2 listen to abby raod again 2 here it now that i no. u learn smt new hear everyday with all the rly smart ppl in this msgbrd lol
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Nieng vlord bnaif conna foopy "day in the life of a tree" remdemtrag
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So has there been a release date set for this yet?, I thought that we were to expect a September release date, well, we are half way through September and as far as I'm aware there hasn't been any date set. Also has there been any more radio airplay other than the Radio 2 broadcast?
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Quote from: GuyOnTheBeach on September 14, 2012, 02:34:25 PM
So has there been a release date set for this yet?, I thought that we were to expect a September release date, well, we are half way through September and as far as I'm aware there hasn't been any date set. Also has there been any more radio airplay other than the Radio 2 broadcast?
A few DJ promo cd's have shown up on Ebay.
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Quote from: EgoHanger1966 on September 14, 2012, 03:09:23 PM
Quote from: GuyOnTheBeach on September 14, 2012, 02:34:25 PM
So has there been a release date set for this yet?, I thought that we were to expect a September release date, well, we are half way through September and as far as I'm aware there hasn't been any date set. Also has there been any more radio airplay other than the Radio 2 broadcast?
A few DJ promo cd's have shown up on Ebay.
I don't want to sound all doom and gloom but Capitol haven't put as much behind this as they could have done really, have they?
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Seconds singles are basically
never
given much of a push anymore unless you're One Direction or something. It always comes out months upon months later than it really should, always after a couple other songs are said to be the second single (see "Spring Vacation" being named and seeing a small amount of airplay a couple months ago), thus creating confusion. I guess they don't see much reason in putting forth the effort anymore unless, again, it's a huge mainstream pop act that's popular right this minute and is a guaranteed hit because of tits/zomg he's so hot/black and yellow black and yellow black and yellow/party party party/etc.
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Quote from: runnersdialzero on September 15, 2012, 02:08:29 PM
Seconds singles are basically
never
given much of a push anymore unless you're One Direction or something. It always comes out months upon months later than it really should, always after a couple other songs are said to be the second single (see "Spring Vacation" being named and seeing a small amount of airplay a couple months ago), thus creating confusion. I guess they don't see much reason in putting forth the effort anymore unless, again, it's a huge mainstream pop act that's popular right this minute and is a guaranteed hit because of tits/zomg he's so hot/black and yellow black and yellow black and yellow/party party party/etc.
Fair point.. maybe they'd have sold more copies if they had Taylor on board
coupled with the surviving guys sending up the video to One Direction's god-awful "What Makes You Beautiful" as the video for Isn't it Time.. guaranteed hit..
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Quote from: runnersdialzero on September 15, 2012, 02:08:29 PM
Seconds singles are basically
never
given much of a push anymore unless you're One Direction or something. It always comes out months upon months later than it really should, always after a couple other songs are said to be the second single (see "Spring Vacation" being named and seeing a small amount of airplay a couple months ago), thus creating confusion. I guess they don't see much reason in putting forth the effort anymore unless, again, it's a huge mainstream pop act that's popular right this minute and is a guaranteed hit because of tits/zomg he's so hot/black and yellow black and yellow black and yellow/party party party/etc.
lulz One Direction was horrendous! almost all hit music these days is just that!
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Quote from: GuyOnTheBeach on September 15, 2012, 01:30:57 PM
Quote from: EgoHanger1966 on September 14, 2012, 03:09:23 PM
Quote from: GuyOnTheBeach on September 14, 2012, 02:34:25 PM
So has there been a release date set for this yet?, I thought that we were to expect a September release date, well, we are half way through September and as far as I'm aware there hasn't been any date set. Also has there been any more radio airplay other than the Radio 2 broadcast?
A few DJ promo cd's have shown up on Ebay.
I don't want to sound all doom and gloom but Capitol haven't put as much behind this as they could have done really, have they?
The album the single is on is not out for nearly a month. Brian has just had a back procedure.
Give them some credit.
Come later this month / early next, the band will be out doing promo for this.
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Listening now
Sounds better on the CD!
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Quote from: 18thofMay on September 20, 2012, 09:07:55 PM
Listening now
Sounds better on the CD!
Any further detailed analysis? anyone else have it from down under? Looking forward to a full review of the production of the single. We have to wait 2 more plus weeks fer for 50 big ones.
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