"Made in California" Box Set

[The Heartical Don]

This sad thread has made me sad. 

That is only logical. Sad threads usually don't make people happy.

Apart from Phil Cohen, that is.

but that made me happy

 

[Shady]

It's a day til November, how do we STILL not have any real info on this thing?

Uh... this is The Beach Boys - take an inspired guess.

Good advice. Being historically informed by the proceedings re: TSS, I will stalk mr. Al Sardine intensely in the upcoming weeks. Google Streetview, hidden mics, and a couple of drones will follow him everywhere, and I will inform you lot here of his every utterance, CDRs played normally and in reverse. The Don has ways to find out.

"A couples of drones will follow him everywhere"

Funniest thing I've ever heard 

[The Heartical Don]

It's a day til November, how do we STILL not have any real info on this thing?

Uh... this is The Beach Boys - take an inspired guess.

Good advice. Being historically informed by the proceedings re: TSS, I will stalk mr. Al Sardine intensely in the upcoming weeks. Google Streetview, hidden mics, and a couple of drones will follow him everywhere, and I will inform you lot here of his every utterance, CDRs played normally and in reverse. The Don has ways to find out.

"A couples of drones will follow him everywhere"

Funniest thing I've ever heard 

*blushes*

thanks for the compliment!

[Junebug]

There's not really any chance of this coming out in 2012 is there ?
We would have had firm details by now. 

[Andrew G. Doe]

There's not really any chance of this coming out in 2012 is there ?
We would have had firm details by now. 

I'd guess not, so that makes it the first ever album in the history of recorded music that's not been released on the date initially announced - according to our resident Eeyore with OCD. Ever ever ever ever ever ever.

[Jim V.]

Wow. Andrew is not very hopeful. Not good.

I don't wanna sound Cohen-esque, but if we don't hear anything in November, I'd assume that it ain't comin' out in January either. I wonder if the delay has anything to do with Mike not wanting to continue to work with Brian and Al. I can't imagine why it would, but this is The Beach Boys.

[lee]

Shame they couldn't get it together in time for the holiday season but such is life. I hope they do make an announcement before the new year.

[Freddie French-Pounce]

I hate to also sound Cohen-esque, but I am feeling genuine worry here. However, I just remind myself that the promo video for The Smile Sessions came out of nowhere when we got it, so anything could appear at any time.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Wow. Andrew is not very hopeful. Not good.

I don't wanna sound Cohen-esque, but if we don't hear anything in November, I'd assume that it ain't comin' out in January either. I wonder if the delay has anything to do with Mike not wanting to continue to work with Brian and Al. I can't imagine why it would, but this is The Beach Boys.

Didn't say it wasn't coming out, just that November was beginning to look unlikely.

[bgas]

Wow. Andrew is not very hopeful. Not good.

I don't wanna sound Cohen-esque, but if we don't hear anything in November, I'd assume that it ain't comin' out in January either. I wonder if the delay has anything to do with Mike not wanting to continue to work with Brian and Al. I can't imagine why it would, but this is The Beach Boys.

Didn't say it wasn't coming out, just that November was beginning to look unlikely.

December 4th!

[The Shift]

Wow. Andrew is not very hopeful. Not good.

I don't wanna sound Cohen-esque, but if we don't hear anything in November, I'd assume that it ain't comin' out in January either. I wonder if the delay has anything to do with Mike not wanting to continue to work with Brian and Al. I can't imagine why it would, but this is The Beach Boys.

Don't be taken in by that crap about Mike not wanting to work with Brian… that was just the media peddling merde. Mike'd sell his wife to get new songs out with a Wilson/Love credit.

Reckon it's more likely to be admin or production realities that are causing delays. We'll get this box in good time or my name's not Phil Cohen.

[bgas]

Wow. Andrew is not very hopeful. Not good.

I don't wanna sound Cohen-esque, but if we don't hear anything in November, I'd assume that it ain't comin' out in January either. I wonder if the delay has anything to do with Mike not wanting to continue to work with Brian and Al. I can't imagine why it would, but this is The Beach Boys.

Don't be taken in by that crap about Mike not wanting to work with Brian… that was just the media peddling merde. Mike'd sell his wife to get new songs out with a Wilson/Love credit.

Reckon it's more likely to be admin or production realities that are causing delays. We'll get this box in good time or my name's not Phil Cohen.

Now THAT's a Revelation!

[Jim V.]

Wow. Andrew is not very hopeful. Not good.

I don't wanna sound Cohen-esque, but if we don't hear anything in November, I'd assume that it ain't comin' out in January either. I wonder if the delay has anything to do with Mike not wanting to continue to work with Brian and Al. I can't imagine why it would, but this is The Beach Boys.

Don't be taken in by that crap about Mike not wanting to work with Brian… that was just the media peddling merde. Mike'd sell his wife to get new songs out with a Wilson/Love credit.

Reckon it's more likely to be admin or production realities that are causing delays. We'll get this box in good time or my name's not Phil Cohen.

I don't wanna take this off topic, but I don't think an album needs to be filled with Wilson/Love credits for Mike to work with Brian. He should feel lucky enough to work with his cousin who he loves so much and be happy with a few writing credits.

But yeah, I'm still pretty confident the box will come soon enough. I don't think they would ever announce it unless they were pretty well sure that they'd be able to release it.

[Shady]

It would have made a lot of sense to release a career retrospective during the actual anniversary..

But then again, this is The Beach Boys

[runnersdialzero]

It would have made a lot of sense to release a career retrospective during the actual anniversary..

But then again, this is The Beach Boys

[Shady]

It would have made a lot of sense to release a career retrospective during the actual anniversary..

But then again, this is The Beach Boys

 I know that, but a greatest hits is an easy sell..

Something like an expensive box set could have used the hype from the 50th anniversary tour

[The Heartical Don]

At the moment, I am quite hopeful for a Jan (or maybe Feb) release. IMHO the greatest problem in the matter is how to format such a project, to make it attractive to as much folks as possible (which is normal). There may have been a concept (with Nov 2012 in mind) that was ultimately not deemed effective enough, and those involved may have started to re-formatting whilst we were waiting for it. I guess a mere update of the 1993 set would potentially have bombed in several ways - but what should replace that (fantastic) retrospective?

Some folks hinted at the inclusion of video material. I think they made good, educated guesses. Almost all current deluxe box sets have a couple of DVDs/Blurays included - and hey, 50 years have produced an immense filmed archive of our band.

Also think about the chance that reformatting sets new problems to overcome. Think of the inclusion of demos, tracks, live cuts, video stuff, promos, all of which require getting proper licensing, new contracts maybe, re-negotiations, what have you.

And there is the problem of oversaturating the market. So much happened in the past 12 months... starting with the TSS bonanza, the studio remasters, the tours, the new album... there is a psychological point where people, even if they're well-heeled (and thus invested probably more than $ 1,000 in BBs related events in the past year), hear an inner voice saying: I've had enough for awhile.

Creating a bit of new longing and hunger is not a bad thing (for the market just a tad below that of us, the certified patients). And we're not exactly starved either.

[Billgoodman]

Hate to say this again:

According to my distribution system Made In Califonria is still released in January

BUT

There's also a Beach Boys 50 Live dvd and blu-ray that's coming november 16. I believe that was the original release date for the boxset. So there's still some stocking filler this year

[Shady]

If we don't hear anything in November at least we can be sure it's not coming January

[The Heartical Don]

If we don't hear anything in November at least we can be sure it's not coming January

Sounds logical.

My bet: we will hear something in November.

Watch out for unexpected Al Jardine interviews the coming weeks.

[Andrew G. Doe]

I wouldn't expect anything much in the way of video footage in the box, for one overbearing reason: licensing. The beach Boys own very little of the footage of their classic-era/70s TV appearances. Malcolm Leo said as far back as 1984 that getting all the clips was a logistical and financial nightmare. I wouldn't expect it's gotten any easier in the intervening three decades.

On a less Cohen-like note, the box will happen.

[rab2591]

If we don't hear anything in November at least we can be sure it's not coming January

Sounds logical.

My bet: we will hear something in November.

Watch out for unexpected Al Jardine interviews the coming weeks.

No way. If this thing were coming out in January we would've heard Al spill the beans back in July

[The Shift]

I wouldn't expect anything much in the way of video footage in the box, for one overbearing reason: licensing. The beach Boys own very little of the footage of their classic-era/70s TV appearances. Malcolm Leo said as far back as 1984 that getting all the clips was a logistical and financial nightmare. I wouldn't expect it's gotten any easier in the intervening three decades.

On a less Cohen-like note, the box will happen.

Take on board what you're saying Andrew. Just seems such a shame given the stuff that's surfaced in the last couple of years. One day perhaps…

That said, I'll be happy with the box's contents whatever, especially the outtakes of Mike playing Murry Wilson compositions on a Stylophone. Never knew they existed before…

[bgas]

I wouldn't expect anything much in the way of video footage in the box, for one overbearing reason: licensing. The beach Boys own very little of the footage of their classic-era/70s TV appearances. Malcolm Leo said as far back as 1984 that getting all the clips was a logistical and financial nightmare. I wouldn't expect it's gotten any easier in the intervening three decades.

On a less Cohen-like note, the box will happen.

well, sure. I imagine you've had your promo copy for abpout a month now. Not that you'll let on...

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

If we don't hear anything in November at least we can be sure it's not coming January

Sounds logical.

My bet: we will hear something in November.

Watch out for unexpected Al Jardine interviews the coming weeks.

No way. If this thing were coming out in January we would've heard Al spill the beans back in July

But... He did.