"Made in California" Box Set

[Loaf]

i've looked into my crystal ball and i've foreseen that there will be enough rarities for the hardcore fans to buy it, but not enough to feel that they got value for money.

Record labels are run by accountants. The sales of the box set won't differ noticeably whether they put 1 hour's worth of unreleased material or 3 hours' worth on the box. But putting 3 hours' worth reduces the chances of future earnings.

[Jason]

We are all Phil Cohen.

Mr. Doe, tear down this wall (of secrecy).

Who are you, Ronnie Raygun?

I felt that a little Star Wars logic from Ronald, 1st Baron of Raygun with regards to our current box set predicament was necessary. Pretty logical for a guy of a hundred and three! If you have any other questions, fire away! Just like I said to the fleet today!

Sorry...had to go all Spitting Image there.

[Mikie]

Hey.  I gotcher spitting image right here...... 

[I. Spaceman]

I don't think the box set will fail, I think it'll be great.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

In fairness, at the time of the GV box, I personally knew casual fans who became serious fans on the basis of an impulse buy of that set. But it simply isn' that way any more, sadly. The era of the mass purchase of CD boxes is long over.

I was one of those fans

[Sheriff John Stone]

In fairness, at the time of the GV box, I personally knew casual fans who became serious fans on the basis of an impulse buy of that set. But it simply isn' that way any more, sadly. The era of the mass purchase of CD boxes is long over.

I was one of those fans

There's more than you think.

Obviously, Capitol will never do it, simply because of the sales. But, it would be nice to have it (a box of hits/album cuts) out there, just to have it available. There's holidays, spikes in the group's popularity, record company promotions, special boxed set sales, budget pricing, etc. It would be a steady grower.

But, most of all, it would allow the second box to concentrate fully on rarities. I want that separation of boxes, no compromising. And, again, after 52 years and dozens of albums (released and unreleased), they warrant two boxes.

[The Shift]

It's on Amazon UK:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Made-California-Limited-Beach-Boys/dp/B008XZKSRY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1PZ220A193YY4&coliid=I1Z8NYC2MTENT3

Don't know if it had been posted before.

Hmm..

We might be hearing some news soon

£116 pounds.... hm.

Think I've had this bookmarked for a month or more now.

[I. Spaceman]

In fairness, at the time of the GV box, I personally knew casual fans who became serious fans on the basis of an impulse buy of that set. But it simply isn' that way any more, sadly. The era of the mass purchase of CD boxes is long over.

I was one of those fans

There ya go.

[Awesoman]

Noticed this thread found its way off the first page of discussions. Thought I'd bump it up the list.

Soooo...when the hell are we going to get any news on this damn thing?

[runnersdialzero]

In fairness, at the time of the GV box, I personally knew casual fans who became serious fans on the basis of an impulse buy of that set. But it simply isn' that way any more, sadly. The era of the mass purchase of CD boxes is long over.

I was one of those fans

There ya go.

Who the hell buys a box set as an impulse buy? Did such things really happen that often without prior interest in the group? Doesn't seem like a wise move. I've only bought box sets when I loved the band prior as there was no way in hell I could afford to spend 50+ dollars on a gamble and only see about half of that back if I opted to sell it.

Also, what is it with you kids and your seemingly endless supply of money? "Box set? Well, I like a couple of their songs, let's go for it. Thirty dollar Japanese re-issues? I'm gonna buy 'em all at once." Not criticizin' at all, it just seems fairly common around here but not as much elsewhere on teh interwebz.

[Awesoman]

Well the economy was better back then...

Hell, I used to buy box sets to use as door stops!

[Andrew G. Doe]

Who the hell buys a box set as an impulse buy?

Me.

[runnersdialzero]

Who the hell buys a box set as an impulse buy?

Me.

You're drunk again!

[Shady]

So 16th of November is definitely not happening

Any clues on a new release date?

[guitarfool2002]

Can't leave out BMG Music club, either. At one point, while the set was still relatively current, they were offering the '93 box set for under 25 dollars, and i know people who bought it that way too, thinking it was better than any "Greatest Hits" you could find in stores for 12-14 dollars.

A factor too was Rolling Stone giving the set 5 stars, and raving about it in a way that I'm sure influenced such an impulse buy.

I have several box sets that I bought on an impulse buy kind of thing, some worked out which I love and others not as much. But if the price is right and the contents look interesting, people will buy them. Or at least that was the case some time ago, not sure about iTunes and the like.

The booklet and other packaging of certain box sets was a major plus for my decisions to buy, of course iTunes and reading on an iPad just don't cut it.

[Bean Bag]

Mark Linett said this on a Facebook thread I saw - regarding Wild Honey - the album - in stereo.

"WIld Honey the song is in stereo for the first time on 50 Big Ones as is "Darlin" , but some of the songs on the album would be impossible to do in true remixed stereo because only some of the lead vocals exist on the multi-track. On several songs the group recorded the vocals for the first verse , mixed that verse down and then recorded the next verse vocals over the first ones mixed that verse down and so on. I want to say maybe a third of the album has this problem"

This is not really new information, I mean, wasn't it in Preiss's book where Jim Lockert describes this mixing process?  The only question was for which tracks is this true.  The only problem would be if, as it seems might be the case, the powers-that-be cling to some desire for absolute uniformity in these releases.  You know, like, they all have to perfect mono then perfect stereo.  Oh no, you know, like, Bull Session with Big Daddy can't be remixed to stereo, cancel the Today! remix.

So here's what you do for the Wild Honey reissue:  put out a great mono remaster followed by a presentation of every song that it's possible to do a decent stereo remix of.  On the songs where it's not, do a stereo remix of the parts you can and either just let the track play out without vocals, or go back to mono.

I've never understood the selective perfectionism keeping these things from coming out.

Exactly.

They did the right thing on the PS Box.  They didn't try to fudge Mike's bridge vocals into WIBN.  They just presented what they had.  And to your point, never was the Stereo PS scrapped because they couldn't get it all perfect.

[Andrew G. Doe]

So 16th of November is definitely not happening

Most definitely is.

Just checked my diary and there it was, nestled between the 15th and the 17th.

[Freddie French-Pounce]

So 16th of November is definitely not happening

Most definitely is.

Just checked my diary and there it was, nestled between the 15th and the 17th.

 

[Shady]

So 16th of November is definitely not happening

Most definitely is.

Just checked my diary and there it was, nestled between the 15th and the 17th.

 

Very nice

[The Shift]

So 16th of November is definitely not happening

Most definitely is.

Just checked my diary and there it was, nestled between the 15th and the 17th.

 

Very nice

Reminds me of that Goodies episode in which the end of the world was predicted as being "nigh". It was doubted until someone looked in that week's Radio Times to find all the pages from Wednesday onwards were blanks!

[Micha]

So 16th of November is definitely not happening

Most definitely is.

Just checked my diary and there it was, nestled between the 15th and the 17th.

 

Very nice

Reminds me of that Goodies episode in which the end of the world was predicted as being "nigh". It was doubted until someone looked in that week's Radio Times to find all the pages from Wednesday onwards were blanks!

Goodie Goodie yum yum!

[smilethebeachboysloveyou]

So 16th of November is definitely not happening

Most definitely is.

Just checked my diary and there it was, nestled between the 15th and the 17th.

Are you really willing to assume that the apocalypse won't come on the 15th of November (or before)?  Or do you have any inside info on that?

[ontor pertawst]

Goodie Goodie yum yum!

Suddenly I can't stop thinking about Graeme Garden's sideburns.

[Catbirdman]

In fairness, at the time of the GV box, I personally knew casual fans who became serious fans on the basis of an impulse buy of that set. But it simply isn' that way any more, sadly. The era of the mass purchase of CD boxes is long over.

I was one of those fans

There ya go.

I was too. I checked it out of a public library and that's why I'm here today.

[runnersdialzero]

In fairness, at the time of the GV box, I personally knew casual fans who became serious fans on the basis of an impulse buy of that set. But it simply isn' that way any more, sadly. The era of the mass purchase of CD boxes is long over.

I was one of those fans

There ya go.

I was too. I checked it out of a public library and that's why I'm here today.

That's different, though.