"Made in California" Box Set

[MarcellaHasDirtyFeet]

I would guess that, IF Mike is the one changing the track order (note the big "if") it is because he wants less of his own unreleased material. Or less of Dennis' stuff.

Surely Mike must be over the whole Dennis thing by now? The poor guy's been dead three decades. POB sold really well didn't it? I just don't see the justification in Mike pulling Denny tracks. I really hope it doesn't turn out to be true.

I'd like to believe that as well. But I get the impression that Dennis' own bad behavior overshadows his artistic accomplishments... At least in Mike's mind.

[The Shift]

We need to stop speculating - folks are just getting wound up - and either start searching for facts, or simply await the box before judging its contents.

[Cabinessenceking]

Well, I don't give too much about the Mike Love-rumour. Somebody posted a few weeks ago that Mark London told him someone f*cked up the tracklist but that doesn't sound like Mike wanted it to be changed to me.
Besides, what unreleased Mike material could replace Brian's? There's not enough interesting material even in his released stuff that could fill a disc. Mike knows that a Beach Boys release with Brian Wilson's name on it will sell like crazy.
He's not very keen on releasing archive material but I don't think he would do what is claimed he did.

Perhaps Myke had a problem with what Brian's singing on 'Drip Drop' would do to the bands (and his) image 

[Aegir]

well, I don't need to hear that song in any better quality at the expensive of a song I haven't heard at all.

[Yorick]

So what's the status on the Mike Love nixing tracks from the box story? On stevehoffman.tv the thread were some supposed insider told about how Mike nixed various amazing 70s demos from the box has been closed. Where there's smoke there's fire?

[hypehat]

So what's the status on the Mike Love nixing tracks from the box story? On stevehoffman.tv the thread were some supposed insider told about how Mike nixed various amazing 70s demos from the box has been closed. Where there's smoke there's fire?

Simply put, one of the sources for that story is a person who was banned here for being fucking crazy and I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him, and the other is an unknown quantity.

As it's another story of how Mike Love is being a twat, in the current climate, I'd say it wasn't the fire we're looking for.

[Mr. Cohen]

If Mike doesn't want something on the box, there's a darn good reason behind it and we should respect his wishes. Mike has spent his entire career protecting the BBs legacy. He only has the band's best interests in mind, and you'd be a fool to doubt. Maybe you think Brian losing it in the studio and recording "Teardrops on my Bed" makes for good listening, but forgive Mike for wanting to protect Brian from harsh scrutiny of the broader public!  

[hypehat]

If Mike doesn't want something on the box, there's a darn good reason behind it and we should respect his wishes. Mike has spent his entire career protecting the BBs legacy. He only has the band's best interests in mind, and you'd be a fool to doubt. Maybe you think Brian losing it in the studio and recording "Teardrops on my Bed" makes for good listening, but forgive Mike for wanting to protect Brian from harsh scrutiny of the broader public! 

I don't know where to start with this.

First off - are you joking?

[Aegir]

clearly trolling, he's posted similar things in a few different threads now.

[Aegir]

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[hypehat]

clearing trolling, he's posted similar things in a few different threads now.

yeah, this was just the first one I read and I'm bored in the office. An argument about Mike Love is a guaranteed time killer, I find. 

[Nicko]

I'd like to believe that as well. But I get the impression that Dennis' own bad behavior overshadows his artistic accomplishments... At least in Mike's mind.

The evidence doesn't back that up though does it.

Dennis 's songs were included on the previous box set, Hawthorne, Endless Harmony, Summer Love Songs etc. without a problem. No reason there should be one now.

[MarcellaHasDirtyFeet]

I'd like to believe that as well. But I get the impression that Dennis' own bad behavior overshadows his artistic accomplishments... At least in Mike's mind.

The evidence doesn't back that up though does it.

Dennis 's songs were included on the previous box set, Hawthorne, Endless Harmony, Summer Love Songs etc. without a problem. No reason there should be one now.

Annnnd that's a good point. I suppose I was thinking about Mike's attitude toward DW in interviews. But yah, the songs do seem to trickle out.

[MBE]

Mike in the early seventies was vocal about liking songs like Cuddle Up and I've Got A Friend even calling the latter a favorite song of his period. The problems Dennis had in the last six years of his life probably do color some of what Mike feels, but to be fair I think he has more recently been more apt to  bring up some good qualites in Dennis. I don't agree that Dennis' work is subjective as Mike once put it, personal yes, but unlike some of Lennon's post Beatles work for instance I feel Dennis touched on universal feelings most of the time.

[Nicko]

It would be slightly surprising if Mike did have issues with the tracklisting as many songs that he has a writing credit on ought to be certs for the set. Obviously the classic songs with Brian but also rarish tracks like It's a Beautiful Day, Rock n Roll to the Rescue, Somewhere Near Japan (45 mix), Summer in Paradise( UK version) etc that weren't included on the previous box. As he allowed the first box to be released then there shouldn't be an issue now.

[runnersdialzero]

It would be slightly surprising if Mike did have issues with the tracklisting as many songs that he has a writing credit on ought to be certs for the set. Obviously the classic songs with Brian but also rarish tracks like It's a Beautiful Day, Rock n Roll to the Rescue, Somewhere Near Japan (45 mix), Summer in Paradise( UK version) etc that weren't included on the previous box. As he allowed the first box to be released then there shouldn't be an issue now.

There really should be two box sets: One containing already released rarities and out of print stuff such as "It's A Beautiful Day", "Sea Cruise", all the twofer tracks, all the single edits and mixes, the erroneous '76 "Come And Go With Me", etc. etc. etc. etc. (there's a lot of this sh*t) and then a second containing new unreleased tracks and, if you must, the hits (it's happening regardless of if you like it or not, sadly).

Unfortunately, we'll likely see a combination of both, and I'm expecting a lot or possibly even all the previously release twofer tracks comprising most of it.

[Andrew G. Doe]

It would be slightly surprising if Mike did have issues with the tracklisting as many songs that he has a writing credit on ought to be certs for the set. Obviously the classic songs with Brian but also rarish tracks like It's a Beautiful Day, Rock n Roll to the Rescue, Somewhere Near Japan (45 mix), Summer in Paradise( UK version) etc that weren't included on the previous box. As he allowed the first box to be released then there shouldn't be an issue now.

There really should be two box sets: One containing already released rarities and out of print stuff such as "It's A Beautiful Day", "Sea Cruise", all the twofer tracks, all the single edits and mixes, the erroneous '76 "Come And Go With Me", etc. etc. etc. etc. (there's a lot of this sh*t) and then a second containing new unreleased tracks and, if you must, the hits (it's happening regardless of if you like it or not, sadly).

Unfortunately, we'll likely see a combination of both, and I'm expecting a lot or possibly even all the previously release twofer tracks comprising most of it.

You've been hanging out with the Cohen of Silence for too long. Chill.

[Mike's Beard]

There should be plenty of room on the new box - 2 more disks than the GV set and half a disk will not be taken up with Smile material.

[pixletwin]

I wish they would just release the track list already. 

[runnersdialzero]

It would be slightly surprising if Mike did have issues with the tracklisting as many songs that he has a writing credit on ought to be certs for the set. Obviously the classic songs with Brian but also rarish tracks like It's a Beautiful Day, Rock n Roll to the Rescue, Somewhere Near Japan (45 mix), Summer in Paradise( UK version) etc that weren't included on the previous box. As he allowed the first box to be released then there shouldn't be an issue now.

There really should be two box sets: One containing already released rarities and out of print stuff such as "It's A Beautiful Day", "Sea Cruise", all the twofer tracks, all the single edits and mixes, the erroneous '76 "Come And Go With Me", etc. etc. etc. etc. (there's a lot of this sh*t) and then a second containing new unreleased tracks and, if you must, the hits (it's happening regardless of if you like it or not, sadly).

Unfortunately, we'll likely see a combination of both, and I'm expecting a lot or possibly even all the previously release twofer tracks comprising most of it.

You've been hanging out with the Cohen of Silence for too long. Chill.

lawl, I knew someone would accuse me of being Cohenesque in that post. Really, though, I want to see those tracks (as well as the stuff from the now out of print 1993 box set) remain in circulation somehow, thus I'd have mixed feelings if they all appeared on this box set.

Still. I'll take your word for it.

[drbeachboy]

Andrew, I'm not sure that you know or are at liberty to say, but has the track list changes all been addressed now?

[Menace Wilson]

To those in the know (and I know there are a lot of you on this board):

What are the odds that "You're Still A Mystery" could make it onto this box?  To me, it's one of if not THE very best unreleased tunes the BBs ever recorded.

[Andrew G. Doe]

I'd be very dubious: it's originally a BW solo track, and I think the ownership of the BB version is still unclear.

Andrew, I'm not sure that you know or are at liberty to say, but has the track list changes all been addressed now?

Correct.

[Menace Wilson]

 

Thanks AGD.

[JohnMill]

To those in the know (and I know there are a lot of you on this board):

What are the odds that "You're Still A Mystery" could make it onto this box?  To me, it's one of if not THE very best unreleased tunes the BBs ever recorded.

I hope it makes the cut, although what AGD noted is correct.  I love that song though and personally I can't see how a BW remake of it could sound any better than the BB version.  Release The BB VERSION