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« Reply #175 on: August 25, 2013, 05:55:09 AM »

No. Pet Sounds is the greatest hands down. forever.
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« Reply #176 on: August 25, 2013, 07:56:52 AM »

The Beach Boys - Landlocked (1971)

SIDE A

01. Don't Go Near the Water
02. Long Promised Road
03. Take A Load Off Your Feet
04. Sound of Free
05. Disney Girls (1957)
06. Student Demonstration Time
07. Feel Flows

SIDE B

08. Fallin' In Love (Lady)
09. Lookin' At Tomorrow (A Welfare Song)
10. A Day In the Life Of a Tree
11. 4th of July
12. 'Til I Die
13. (Wouldn't It Be Nice) To Live Again
 
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« Reply #177 on: August 25, 2013, 08:03:20 AM »

I will want to compile my own version with the new song available, but not sure where I would place it compared to other albums.  I will say that the following songs would definitely make it (in no particular order):

Disney Girls
Long Promised Road
Feel Flows
4th of July
Wouldn't It Be Nice (To Live Again) -> assuming it reaches even half the level of the cover version
A Day in the Life of a Tree
'Til I Die
Surf's Up

And with regards to the lyrics complaint, it's not very convincing to someone who doesn't pay any attention to lyrics in the first place.
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« Reply #178 on: August 25, 2013, 04:37:01 PM »

Can someone elaborate on the root of the idea that Lady would have turned up on Surf's Up? Is there an interview or tape reel or some other bit of contemporaneous evidence? My recollection is that Sound of Free was never considered for Surf's Up, although it may have been for sunflower??? I can't remember...
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« Reply #179 on: August 26, 2013, 12:40:41 AM »

Can someone elaborate on the root of the idea that Lady would have turned up on Surf's Up? Is there an interview or tape reel or some other bit of contemporaneous evidence? My recollection is that Sound of Free was never considered for Surf's Up, although it may have been for sunflower??? I can't remember...

Well, Desper compiled that famous tape with finished songs as a first step to the next album. Lady was on there, but only TALOYF and Welfare song made it from there to the final lineup, and, if you will, Til I Die.
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« Reply #180 on: August 26, 2013, 06:31:27 AM »

I'd love an instrumental mix of that song for a new boxset. The track is incredibly dense.
Well, what you wished a year ago actually happened. Played that backing track recently & indeed it's great! One of the highlights of the set, for sure.
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« Reply #181 on: August 28, 2013, 09:00:25 PM »

My choice
Surf's Up :

Side A

Long Promised Road
Don't Go Near The Water
Lookin' At Tomorrow
Student Demonstration Time
(crossfading beep sound and next intro)
Fourth Of July
Disney Girls

SideB

Till I Die
Feel Flow
Take A Load Off Your Feet
A Day In The Life Of Tree
Live Again
Surf's Up

Don't go~and Feel are weak to me as the opener.
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« Reply #182 on: August 29, 2013, 07:13:55 AM »

Listening to a revamp tracklist of SU with WIBNTLA replacing Surf's Up and 4th of July replacing Take A Load Off Your Feet, the album now feels more complete as a statement of the dark side of post 60s hippie idealism. Sunflower was the light side of it all and now this is the flip side.

Yes, the mood is more depressing. No Sunflower-era outtake here to lighten up the mood a bit. Themes of ecology, race wars, Vietnam, unemployment, student protest, yearning for simpler times, etc. take the forefront. This is not the Beach Boys of the idealized American dream of ''fun in the sun. Surf's up, indeed. In that regard, IMHO, it now joins the rank of albums like What's Goin' On and There's A Riot Goin' On as a stark and soulful portrait of early 70s America.
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« Reply #183 on: September 18, 2013, 07:27:36 AM »

After listening to WIBNTLA for the millionth time, I took a stab at making my own Surf's Up tracklist:

1. Sound Of Free
2. Disney Girls
3. 4th of July
4. Don't Go Near The Water
5. Wouldn't It Be Nice To (Live Again)

6. Feel Flows
7. Fallin' In Love (2009 mix)
8. A Day In The Life Of A Tree
9. Til I Die (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS34TZR3SNY)
10. Surf's Up (TSS)

The album opens with a song about children being drawn to the sound of free - then the album closes with "a children's song". The harmonies at the end of Don't Go Near The Water segue perfectly into WIBNTLA - and that is a phenomenal side 1 closer.

I used The Smile Session's Surf's Up instead of the '71 version. Can't pass up having Brian's vocal on this fantasy mix.
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« Reply #184 on: September 18, 2013, 08:16:32 AM »

If I can remember to tear myself away from GTA V (and iO7 when it comes out later today!!!) I'm going to try these Landlocked tracklists.

Surf's Up never really made much sense to me.  To hodge podge.  But I've never tried to address it for some reason.  So I can't wait to try everyone's tracklists.  Gonna finally fix this album!!!!!!
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« Reply #185 on: September 18, 2013, 09:42:47 AM »

This tracklisting works for me right now:


1) Sound of free
2) Don't go near the water
3) 4th of july
4) Feel flows
5) Disney girls
6) Lady (Fallin in love)
7) Looking at tomorrow
8  Long promised road
9) A day in the life of a tree
10) Til I die
11) Wouldn't it be nice to live again

I tried to keep all smile-songs and fragments from later albums, so of course "Surf's up" had to go. Also no real rockers on the album since I eliminated SDT, but I like to overall mellow and darker feel of the new running order.
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« Reply #186 on: September 18, 2013, 10:27:48 AM »

After listening to WIBNTLA for the millionth time, I took a stab at making my own Surf's Up tracklist:

1. Sound Of Free
2. Disney Girls
3. 4th of July
4. Don't Go Near The Water
5. Wouldn't It Be Nice To (Live Again)

6. Feel Flows
7. Fallin' In Love (2009 mix)
8. A Day In The Life Of A Tree
9. Til I Die (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS34TZR3SNY)
10. Surf's Up (TSS)

The album opens with a song about children being drawn to the sound of free - then the album closes with "a children's song". The harmonies at the end of Don't Go Near The Water segue perfectly into WIBNTLA - and that is a phenomenal side 1 closer.

I used The Smile Session's Surf's Up instead of the '71 version. Can't pass up having Brian's vocal on this fantasy mix.

Interesting but far too Dennis heavy for me. This is the version I burned the night I got MIC.

Don't Go Near The Water
4th of July
Long Promised Road
Disney Girls
Student Demonstration Time
WIBNTLA
Feel Flows
Looking At Tomorrow
A Day in the Life of a Tree
'Till I Die
Surf's Up

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« Reply #187 on: September 18, 2013, 10:50:13 AM »

After listening to WIBNTLA for the millionth time, I took a stab at making my own Surf's Up tracklist:

1. Sound Of Free
2. Disney Girls
3. 4th of July
4. Don't Go Near The Water
5. Wouldn't It Be Nice To (Live Again)

6. Feel Flows
7. Fallin' In Love (2009 mix)
8. A Day In The Life Of A Tree
9. Til I Die (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS34TZR3SNY)
10. Surf's Up (TSS)

The album opens with a song about children being drawn to the sound of free - then the album closes with "a children's song". The harmonies at the end of Don't Go Near The Water segue perfectly into WIBNTLA - and that is a phenomenal side 1 closer.

I used The Smile Session's Surf's Up instead of the '71 version. Can't pass up having Brian's vocal on this fantasy mix.

That is simply one of the greatest albums of all time
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« Reply #188 on: September 18, 2013, 11:29:44 AM »

After trying a ga-zillion different sequences I have settled on:

Don't Go Near The Water
Long Promised Road
4th of July
Disney Girls (1957)
Student Demonstration Time

Feel Flows
Looking At Tomorrow
A Day in the Life of a Tree
'Til I Die
(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again (my own edit with longer intro and earlier fade out)
Surf's Up.

Bonus tracks at the end... Dennis' other two songs and Feet ending with Desper's remix of 'Til I Die.

Done. I aint fiddling with this anymore.  Evil
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« Reply #189 on: September 18, 2013, 05:38:31 PM »

Interesting but far too Dennis heavy for me. This is the version I burned the night I got MIC.

Don't Go Near The Water
4th of July
Long Promised Road
Disney Girls
Student Demonstration Time
WIBNTLA
Feel Flows
Looking At Tomorrow
A Day in the Life of a Tree
'Till I Die
Surf's Up


I wanted to add Long Promised Road to my list to even it out, but also wanted to keep it under 10 songs.
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I've been listening to Surf's Up era songs all day - can't believe how cohesive they all sound. All the Dennis material, Bruce's song, Brian's tunes, Al's song - they all have the same feel to them, yet they have their own distinct style. Pretty impressive.
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« Reply #190 on: September 19, 2013, 12:17:57 PM »

After trying a ga-zillion different sequences I have settled on:

Don't Go Near The Water
Long Promised Road
4th of July
Disney Girls (1957)
Student Demonstration Time

Feel Flows
Looking At Tomorrow
A Day in the Life of a Tree
'Til I Die
(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again (my own edit with longer intro and earlier fade out)
Surf's Up.

Bonus tracks at the end... Dennis' other two songs and Feet ending with Desper's remix of 'Til I Die.

Done. I aint fiddling with this anymore.  Evil

That's exactly the track listing I go with. It just works.
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« Reply #191 on: October 11, 2013, 05:05:07 PM »

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« Reply #192 on: January 17, 2014, 10:14:23 PM »

My final track-listing for Surf's Up:
1. Don't Go Near The Water
2. 4th Of July
3. Long Promised Road
4. Take A Load Off Your Feet
5. Disney Girls (1957)
6. Student Demonstration Time
7. Feel Flows
8. Lookin' At Tomorrow (A Welfare Song)
9. A Day In The Life Of A Tree
10. 'Til I Die
11. Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again
12. Surf's Up

Had Surf's Up been released with this track-listing, it would definitely have been considered one of the greatest albums ever, with Pet Sounds, The Smile Sessions, and Sunflower.

I was wrong. Here's the actual final tracklisting:

Side 1:
01. Don't Go Near The Water
02. Take A Load Off Your Feet
03. Disney Girls (1957)
04. Lookin' At Tommorow (A Welfare Song)
05. Lady (Fallin' In Love)
06. 4th Of July

Side 2:
01. Feel Flows
02. Long Promised Road
03. A Day In The Life Of A Tree
04. Surf's Up
05. Til' I Die
06. Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again
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« Reply #193 on: January 18, 2014, 12:25:44 AM »

I'm glad Dennis's songs didn't make Surf's Up. Too slow and boring.

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« Reply #194 on: January 18, 2014, 12:40:40 AM »

4th of July? More like 4th Nap Today.

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« Reply #195 on: January 18, 2014, 12:41:26 AM »

I'm glad Dennis's songs didn't make Surf's Up. Too slow and boring.



What about WIBNTLA?
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« Reply #196 on: January 18, 2014, 04:59:48 AM »

It's too boring. And also slow, apparently.

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« Reply #197 on: January 18, 2014, 06:13:00 AM »

I'm glad Dennis's songs didn't make Surf's Up. Too slow and boring.


  Honestly, I can see your point re "4th of July". It is good but not great. But to extend that opinion to "WIBNTLA" and "Lady" is a lapse in judgement and taste.

 The SURF'S UP album has fascinated me since I heard highlights included on TEN YEARS OF HARMONY in 1983. My custom version never loses  the original ten. Take ANY of those tracks away and SURF'S UP is no longer SURF'S UP. "Feet" never seems to get much respect but its goofy ambience would be in sync with either SMILEY SMILE or WILD HONEY. I do not have any serious issues with SDT either.

 One of the best album covers of all-time btw.
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« Reply #198 on: January 18, 2014, 06:17:25 AM »

I like Surf's Up just as it is and wouldn't change a thing. Denny's songs wouldn't have been an improvement in my mind.
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« Reply #199 on: January 18, 2014, 06:52:08 AM »

It's mostly the attempt at ecologically-conscious lyrics that turns me off. With maybe the exception of Tree, all the lyrics for those songs feel a bit strained and artificial. River Song feels totally genuine because Denny wrote and sung it like he really meant it, whereas DGNTW feels like a trashy attempt at getting in at what was hip more than anything. I spose Rieley could be the one to be blamed for this, but nyeh
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