Is it Me or is that people always talk more about Brian and Dennis than Carl??

[EthanJClarke93]

For some reason, i feel that people always talk more about Brian and Dennis than Carl. besides the usual stories, i've always wondered maybe there's stuff we never knew vice versa?

I had the change the name of the subject cause people were complaining, like 5 year old mentally challanged children -_- fml.

[Jim V.]

Are you familiar with.....



the fact that we are actually supposed to say what the thread is about in the subject line?

[EthanJClarke93]

Are you familiar with.....



the fact that we are actually supposed to say what the thread is about in the subject line?

-_________- Could we PLEASE NOT GO Off Subject Please?!

[Autotune]

Are you familiar with.....



the fact that we are actually supposed to say what the thread is about in the subject line?

-_________- Could we PLEASE NOT GO Off Subject Please?!

If by subject the title of this thread is understood, I think this thread could be about anything. This would render sweetdudejim's post perfectly on topic. And he's right, by the way.

[SMiLE Brian]

Ethan is a valued member with those great pictures he finds. To answer your question, I guess Brian and Dennis had more headlines about them because of their talents and problems, while Carl was quiet and kept the band together while giving a great song here and there.

[EthanJClarke93]

Ethan is a valued member with those great pictures he finds. To answer your question, I guess Brian and Dennis had more headlines about them because of their talents and problems, while Carl was quiet and kept the band together while giving a great song here and there.

Thank you for the nice complement 

[Autotune]

Ethan is a valued member with those great pictures he finds. To answer your question, I guess Brian and Dennis had more headlines about them because of their talents and problems, while Carl was quiet and kept the band together while giving a great song here and there.

And you're a valued member too. 

[grillo]

Wasn't there just a post by the Admins about NOT creating vague/meaningless post titles?
Also, I think this question belongs in the Various Insignificant questions thread.
Just Sayin...


Ahh, i see you (or someone) has changed the thread's title.
Well, I maintain my stance about insignificant questions...

[SMiLE Brian]

Ethan is a valued member with those great pictures he finds. To answer your question, I guess Brian and Dennis had more headlines about them because of their talents and problems, while Carl was quiet and kept the band together while giving a great song here and there.

And you're a valued member too. 

Same for you.

[Gertie J.]

I feel the same about Carl. He's hugely underrated as a guitarist and a singer and his kind modest soul is what makes him stand out among all the musicians. The guy was unique diamond.

[Jim V.]

For some reason, i feel that people always talk more about Brian and Dennis than Carl. besides the usual stories, i've always wondered maybe there's stuff we never knew vice versa?

I had the change the name of the subject cause people were complaining, like 5 year old mentally challanged children -_- fml.

No need to be a dick. It's called board etiquette. It's just annoying that people don't follow some easy to understand rules.

[EthanJClarke93]

For some reason, i feel that people always talk more about Brian and Dennis than Carl. besides the usual stories, i've always wondered maybe there's stuff we never knew vice versa?

I had the change the name of the subject cause people were complaining, like 5 year old mentally challanged children -_- fml.

No need to be a dick. It's called board etiquette. It's just annoying that people don't follow some easy to understand rules.

Oh well that so nice to say 

[Jim V.]

For some reason, i feel that people always talk more about Brian and Dennis than Carl. besides the usual stories, i've always wondered maybe there's stuff we never knew vice versa?

I had the change the name of the subject cause people were complaining, like 5 year old mentally challanged children -_- fml.

No need to be a dick. It's called board etiquette. It's just annoying that people don't follow some easy to understand rules.

Oh well that so nice to say 

??

[I. Spaceman]

For some reason, i feel that people always talk more about Brian and Dennis than Carl. besides the usual stories, i've always wondered maybe there's stuff we never knew vice versa?

I had the change the name of the subject cause people were complaining, like 5 year old mentally challanged children -_- fml.

No need to be a dick. It's called board etiquette. It's just annoying that people don't follow some easy to understand rules.

Oh well that so nice to say 

??

!!

[EthanJClarke93]

Well can we please stick on the subject please?

[Lonely Summer]

Is anyone here actually interested in discussing the subject? I do feel that Carl is very underrated by the BB's fans, I guess Brian and Dennis were more colorful with all their highly documented problems (although we seem to talk a lot about Carl's rather brief period of drug abuse in the late 70's). There's a lot to be said for being quiet and dependable (as Al has been), but it doesn't get the headlines.

[SMiLE Brian]

An interesting dynamic in the group was the divide that developed between Brian and Carl at some point.

[MBE]

Carl is an interesting guy in his own right, but Brian, Dennis, and Mike made more headlines. Musically and vocally I think Carl in his prime was something to behold, but as a songwriter he only showed flashes of brilliance compared to again Brian, Dennis, and yes Mike. I think that may have to do with him getting a little ignored. As a producer he did some great work from 1968-72. I wonder why he didn't produce any further after the Ricci Martin album. His own solo albums may have been a lot better, as well as the later Beach Boy albums, had he produced. The changes in Brian and Dennis after the death of Murry have been discussed, but Carl changed to. He never took charge in the same way again. I know there were a lot of power plays with the Love's etc. but I'm surprised he didn't stand firm on certain issues. Maybe the positive changes in Mike creatively on stage would have taken place years before. Maybe the box set tour was his last attempt? I think after that his health played a big role in things not running smooth in the mid nineties with Brian's new work etc. 

As for Brian and Carl, I know on Brian's part there was a little jealousy over how close Carl was to their mom. I always thought that maybe Carl never forgave Brian for not being at Murry's funeral. Audree talked about her having to talk with Carl over his anger at Brian. Dennis he didn't expect better from what I understand, but perhaps there was a rift there. I also think (despite his own problems at the time) that he was angry at Brian for some of his erratic behavior on stage. Carlin touched on that a bit in his book about how Carl didn't want Brian playing bass after a certain point. After all you can be understanding of someone's illness (which I think Carl was) and still get upset over some of their choices. I remember Brian in that Les Chan hotel tape from 1981 that Brian spoke out about someone going solo (ironic huh) and I felt Carl's absence played a part in his opinion at the time. So there were these points of contention over the years.

I think they did love each other very much, and I understand that they worked things out shortly before Carl died, but issues between them went back a while. I mean the use of Surf's Up was over Brian's objections and suddenly he wanted to work with Sandler and Spring more than the Beach Boys, so there could have been a problem there between them as well. Overall though I would say they got along pretty well until Murry died and there seems to have been a closeness before the second Landy term that never returned in the same way. One last thing is that I know Brian was glad in one way to have the Beach Boys be a democracy in the late sixties and early seventies, but in another way he also felt unwanted to some extent once Carl began to produce more. Some comments in a 1973 Record World interview indicate that strongly and Diane even tells Brian it wasn't true.  It was complicated!

[Mike's Beard]

It's always the controversial, outspoken and outlandish who gain people's attention more. As the quiet and dare I say it, most "normal" of the three brothers, the focus was always less on Carl. It's also why there are much more stories and fan focus on Mike than Al. The media naturally is going to be directed on the more larger than life characters in the band. It's worth noting that until a couple of very public slipups recently no one ever talked about Bruce.

[EthanJClarke93]

Pretty much i never even knew that Carl had a drug addiction, I'm guessing it wasn't as worse as Dennis nor Brian's, I'm friends with Carl's son Jonah btw  , well not friends like that, i've spoken with him a few times.

[Gertie J.]

Ethan I'm doing  right now but in a good way. How did you get acquainted with him?!

[EthanJClarke93]

Ethan I'm doing   right now but in a good way. How did you get acquainted with him?!

via facebook =p we've talked a few times before hand when i was trying to make a book on Carl, i didn't mean were friends like that

[I. Spaceman]

i was trying to make a book on Carl

Couldn't find a translator?

[EthanJClarke93]

i was trying to make a book on Carl

Couldn't find a translator?

-__- jesus christ fml

[ontor pertawst]

It's at moments like this when you should ask yourself... what would Al Jardine do?

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