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I read on wikipedia that the album and single mixes are different. I have the Holland version which is the album one and I think I have the single version from the Warmth of the Sun comp. I know Brian sings the open two lines, but I cannot hear him anywhere else. Is this version just the album version "fixed" or do I not have the single version still? If not, can someone pass me a youtube link? In any case, could someone tell me where else he sings? It says that he sings in the verse verse but Mike is singing by himself. Thanks for the help.
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He crops up elsewhere on the single mix, and the instrumentation and harmonies are a bit different on the single mix too - it has horns and more moog bass! It's on this compilation
http://open.spotify.com/album/1P6NxbYUZazQAAag2leAUh
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It's slightly sped up, and Brian has a few additional echoes of what he sings in the intro during the verse. It's barely audible on the album version but prominent on the single mix. Something like this, with Brian's lines italicized:
Have you ever been south of Monterey?
Barrancas carve the coast line
And the chaparral flows to the sea
'Neath waves of golden sunshine (
On my way
)
And have you ever been north of Morro Bay?
The south coast plows the sea
And the people there are of the breed
They don't need electricity (
On my way-ay
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I always liked Brian's part a lot and wondered why he didn't sing it during each chorus (obviously it was Al's call), so much so that I utilized the album mix and single mix into an edit that actually has him singing the "On my way to sunny Californ-i-a" part over the entire chorus while taking a few liberties with the end of the chorus. The echoed lines are also in the verses, obviously.
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Quote from: runnersdialzero on August 09, 2012, 04:20:25 PM
It's slightly sped up, and Brian has a few additional echoes of what he sings in the intro during the verse. It's barely audible on the album version but prominent on the single mix. Something like this, with Brian's lines italicized:
Have you ever been south of Monterey?
Barrancas carve the coast line
And the chaparral flows to the sea
'Neath waves of golden sunshine (
On my way
)
And have you ever been north of Morro Bay?
The south coast plows the sea
And the people there are of the breed
They don't need electricity (
On my way-ay
)
I always liked Brian's part a lot and wondered why he didn't sing it during each chorus (obviously it was Al's call), so much so that I utilized the album mix and single mix into an edit that actually has him singing the "On my way to sunny Californ-i-a" part over the entire chorus while taking a few liberties with the end of the chorus. The echoed lines are also in the verses, obviously.
Sped up in what sense? It seems like the same song but maybe the tape was sped up? I'm not sure.
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That's probably the case. Just in a very slightly higher key and very slightly faster. Think of the single mix of "It's OK" versus the album if you've heard it - same situation.
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before it burnt up i had an issue of billboard that had a line about alan remixing and working on the song for a single release. i don't remember what studio it mentioned the remixing was being done at. maybe it can be found on google books.
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Quote from: dcowboys107 on August 09, 2012, 04:12:36 PM
I read on wikipedia that the album and single mixes are different. I have the Holland version which is the album one and I think I have the single version from the Warmth of the Sun comp. I know Brian sings the open two lines, but I cannot hear him anywhere else. Is this version just the album version "fixed" or do I not have the single version still? If not, can someone pass me a youtube link? In any case, could someone tell me where else he sings? It says that he sings in the verse verse but Mike is singing by himself. Thanks for the help.
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I think it's cool to hear him but I like his "I'm on my way" at the end more than during the verses. I kind of like his voice like that even though it's probably messed up. . .
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Quote from: dcowboys107 on August 09, 2012, 04:12:36 PM
I read on wikipedia that the album and single mixes are different. I have the Holland version which is the album one and I think I have the single version from the Warmth of the Sun comp. I know Brian sings the open two lines, but I cannot hear him anywhere else. Is this version just the album version "fixed" or do I not have the single version still? If not, can someone pass me a youtube link? In any case, could someone tell me where else he sings? It says that he sings in the verse verse but Mike is singing by himself. Thanks for the help.
WOTS has the album version. You'll find the single version of that song (plus the single versions of "It's ok" "Rock and roll music" and "Here comes the night (disco)" on "Best of the Brother years" (best of the Beach Boys vol. 3)
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Quote from: Rocker on August 10, 2012, 03:53:22 AM
Quote from: dcowboys107 on August 09, 2012, 04:12:36 PM
I read on wikipedia that the album and single mixes are different. I have the Holland version which is the album one and I think I have the single version from the Warmth of the Sun comp. I know Brian sings the open two lines, but I cannot hear him anywhere else. Is this version just the album version "fixed" or do I not have the single version still? If not, can someone pass me a youtube link? In any case, could someone tell me where else he sings? It says that he sings in the verse verse but Mike is singing by himself. Thanks for the help.
WOTS has the album version. You'll find the single version of that song (plus the single versions of "It's ok" "Rock and roll music" and "Here comes the night (disco)" on "Best of the Brother years" (best of the Beach Boys vol. 3)
It's quite interesting how the single versions from 'Best of the Brother years' make all these songs sound better. ofc the HCTN isof a certain taste, but I can enjoy it, something I would never lend the album version. Hell, even R&R Music works in the single configuration. I loved the single version of CalSaga p.3 from the first time I heard it (on the radio?) and was obsessed with finding it. One of the factors which brought me to this superb board!
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Quote from: dcowboys107 on August 09, 2012, 04:12:36 PM
I read on wikipedia that the album and single mixes are different. I have the Holland version which is the album one and I think I have the single version from the Warmth of the Sun comp. I know Brian sings the open two lines, but I cannot hear him anywhere else. Is this version just the album version "fixed" or do I not have the single version still? If not, can someone pass me a youtube link? In any case, could someone tell me where else he sings? It says that he sings in the verse verse but Mike is singing by himself. Thanks for the help.
WOTS has the album version. You'll find the single version of that song (plus the single versions of "It's ok" "Rock and roll music" and "Here comes the night (disco)" on "Best of the Brother years" (best of the Beach Boys vol. 3)
Indeed - a nice little disc worth picking up for that reason.
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Quote from: Rocker on August 10, 2012, 03:53:22 AM
Quote from: dcowboys107 on August 09, 2012, 04:12:36 PM
I read on wikipedia that the album and single mixes are different. I have the Holland version which is the album one and I think I have the single version from the Warmth of the Sun comp. I know Brian sings the open two lines, but I cannot hear him anywhere else. Is this version just the album version "fixed" or do I not have the single version still? If not, can someone pass me a youtube link? In any case, could someone tell me where else he sings? It says that he sings in the verse verse but Mike is singing by himself. Thanks for the help.
WOTS has the album version. You'll find the single version of that song (plus the single versions of "It's ok" "Rock and roll music" and "Here comes the night (disco)" on "Best of the Brother years" (best of the Beach Boys vol. 3)
Thanks for the heads up! The single version of "Rock & Roll Music" sounds light years better. Where can someone find the different version of "Come Go With Me" or was there never an official release?
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Quote from: dcowboys107 on August 09, 2012, 04:12:36 PM
I read on wikipedia that the album and single mixes are different. I have the Holland version which is the album one and I think I have the single version from the Warmth of the Sun comp. I know Brian sings the open two lines, but I cannot hear him anywhere else. Is this version just the album version "fixed" or do I not have the single version still? If not, can someone pass me a youtube link? In any case, could someone tell me where else he sings? It says that he sings in the verse verse but Mike is singing by himself. Thanks for the help.
WOTS has the album version. You'll find the single version of that song (plus the single versions of "It's ok" "Rock and roll music" and "Here comes the night (disco)" on "Best of the Brother years" (best of the Beach Boys vol. 3)
Thanks for the heads up! The single version of "Rock & Roll Music" sounds light years better. Where can someone find the different version of "Come Go With Me" or was there never an official release?
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I believe it is on the U.S. Ten Years Of Harmony CD, as well.
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Quote from: drbeachboy on August 10, 2012, 09:51:14 AM
I believe it is on the U.S. Ten Years Of Harmony CD, as well.
Yep, you're right. Disregard my previous comment. Was thinking of Hey Little Tomboy.
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Quote from: I. Spaceman on August 10, 2012, 09:53:32 AM
Quote from: drbeachboy on August 10, 2012, 09:51:14 AM
I believe it is on the U.S. Ten Years Of Harmony CD, as well.
Yep, you're right. Disregard my previous comment. Was thinking of Hey Little Tomboy.
I think you are correct too. Tomboy, Come Go..., Peggy Sue and Wontcha' ... all have different mixes on the Epic M.I.U. CD. My memory betrays me sometimes, as I haven't listened to that disc in many a year.
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My disc doesn't have HCTN on it...was that for the UK market?
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My disc doesn't have HCTN on it...was that for the UK market?
I never heard about different running orders. We're talking about this one:
What's your track #16 ?
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Good Timin'.
That's # 17 on my CD. It has 22 tracks on the whole.
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Interesting. Found this on wikipedia:
Titled The Best of the Beach Boys: 1970–1986 in England, it included three additional songs not issued on the U.S. version: "Tears in the Morning", the disco remake of "Here Comes the Night" from The Beach Boys' L.A. (Light Album), and "Sumahama".
Greatest Hits Volume Three: Best of the Brother Years 1970–1986 (Capitol 7243 5 24511 2) never charted in the US or the UK.
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I never knew there were different releases (and I also don't know why). So you got "Disney girls (1957)" instead of "Tears in the morning" and two other tracks missing. Does it at least have the same awesome artwork (not just for the cover but the whole package)?
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To my knowledge, yes, the art is the same. I'm sure the liners are a bit different.
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Quote from: Billy C on August 10, 2012, 10:04:04 AM
My disc doesn't have HCTN on it...was that for the UK market?
Yep - AGD Book, p 127 of the Omnibus blue cover edition confirms what Rocker found on wiki - Tears in the Morning, the 45 edit of HCTN and Sumahama "got tagged on" for Brits - and notes that Disney Girls got ditched.
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Quote from: runnersdialzero on August 09, 2012, 04:20:25 PM
It's slightly sped up, and Brian has a few additional echoes of what he sings in the intro during the verse. It's barely audible on the album version but prominent on the single mix. Something like this, with Brian's lines italicized:
Have you ever been south of Monterey?
Barrancas carve the coast line
And the chaparral flows to the sea
'Neath waves of golden sunshine (
On my way
)
And have you ever been north of Morro Bay?
The south coast plows the sea
And the people there are of the breed
They don't need electricity (
On my way-ay
)
I always liked Brian's part a lot and wondered why he didn't sing it during each chorus (obviously it was Al's call), so much so that I utilized the album mix and single mix into an edit that actually has him singing the "On my way to sunny Californ-i-a" part over the entire chorus while taking a few liberties with the end of the chorus. The echoed lines are also in the verses, obviously.
The single version also fixes up a miscue or something re the vocals on the second chorus - on the album cut, Mike's comes in early with a "Get yourself in that", realises just after he sings "Git". The brass section is up a bit higher on the 45 as well, and there's a lot more energy, maybe due to the slight speed-up (maybe the album isn't mastered at the right speed, I don't know).
Would love to hear your mix at some stage
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