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sheknowsmetoowell
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What a transition!
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I've finally figured out what era of the BB's is my absolute favorite. It's that dramatic drop-off between SMiLE and Smiley Smile/Wild Honey. It goes from complex, huge production, high quality songs to raw, stripped down, dark, acoustic songs in what seems like overnight. Smiley Smile, I must say, was the last album of their catalog which I got into. I initially thought of it as SMiLE's ugly offspring; and while I still maintain that thought, I've learned over time to appreciate Smiley Smile for what it is. Also, is it just me or does SMiLE seem much more tame compared to Smiley Smile? I would've loved to have seen the reaction of the people who went out and bought, then came home and played it for the first time.
Also, does anyone have a link to the audio interview where Brian is talking about Wild Honey? I believe he says something along the lines of "We just recorded an R&B album". That quote is quite odd if you think about it, but then again, if you REALLY think about it, it's kind of correct. I think Aren't You Glad, A Thing Or Two, Darlin, and Let The Wind Blow definitely fall under the category of R&B. There's such raw emotions in those songs you know? Gut-punching stuff.
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Re: What a transition!
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Quote from: sheknowsmetoowell on July 27, 2012, 07:31:39 PM
I've finally figured out what era of the BB's is my absolute favorite. It's that dramatic drop-off between SMiLE and Smiley Smile/Wild Honey. It goes from complex, huge production, high quality songs to raw, stripped down, dark, acoustic songs in what seems like overnight. Smiley Smile, I must say, was the last album of their catalog which I got into. I initially thought of it as SMiLE's ugly offspring; and while I still maintain that thought, I've learned over time to appreciate Smiley Smile for what it is. Also, is it just me or does SMiLE seem much more tame compared to Smiley Smile? I would've loved to have seen the reaction of the people who went out and bought, then came home and played it for the first time.
Also, does anyone have a link to the audio interview where Brian is talking about Wild Honey? I believe he says something along the lines of "We just recorded an R&B album". That quote is quite odd if you think about it, but then again, if you REALLY think about it, it's kind of correct. I think Aren't You Glad, A Thing Or Two, Darlin, and Let The Wind Blow definitely fall under the category of R&B. There's such raw emotions in those songs you know? Gut-punching stuff.
I'm not familiar with the Wild Honey interview, but here is a link to a phone interview with Brian about Smiley Smile you might find interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRFE-24ucxc
I find it interesting that the fellow who only a year before had labored with detailed precision and perfected two masterpiece albums (although one didn't get finished) would make a comment like, "oh that was an accident, but it worked out, so we left it in...." Totally different work ethic there.
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Re: What a transition!
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Quote from: sockittome on July 28, 2012, 10:07:54 AM
"oh that was an accident, but it worked out, so we left it in...." Totally different work ethic there.
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Billgoodman
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Re: What a transition!
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Quote from: sockittome on July 28, 2012, 10:07:54 AM
I'm not familiar with the Wild Honey interview, but here is a link to a phone interview with Brian about Smiley Smile you might find interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRFE-24ucxc
I find it interesting that the fellow who only a year before had labored with detailed precision and perfected two masterpiece albums (although one didn't get finished) would make a comment like, "oh that was an accident, but it worked out, so we left it in...." Totally different work ethic there.
I guess BW left in mistakes before, because they worked. And he had been indifferent to clean mixes before, Today and Pet Sounds are messy as hell. Granted, Smiley Smile is full of weird mistakes and choices, but maybe his work ethic isn't that different.
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Quote from: Billgoodman on July 29, 2012, 05:46:21 AM
Quote from: sockittome on July 28, 2012, 10:07:54 AM
I'm not familiar with the Wild Honey interview, but here is a link to a phone interview with Brian about Smiley Smile you might find interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRFE-24ucxc
I find it interesting that the fellow who only a year before had labored with detailed precision and perfected two masterpiece albums (although one didn't get finished) would make a comment like, "oh that was an accident, but it worked out, so we left it in...." Totally different work ethic there.
I guess BW left in mistakes before, because they worked. And he had been indifferent to clean mixes before, Today and Pet Sounds are messy as hell. Granted, Smiley Smile is full of weird mistakes and choices, but maybe his work ethic isn't that different.
I do believe it has been stated that the "Good" wasn't a mistake, but rather Brian edited it in to the track.
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Re: What a transition!
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Quote from: rab2591 on July 29, 2012, 06:18:30 AM
Quote from: Billgoodman on July 29, 2012, 05:46:21 AM
Quote from: sockittome on July 28, 2012, 10:07:54 AM
I'm not familiar with the Wild Honey interview, but here is a link to a phone interview with Brian about Smiley Smile you might find interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRFE-24ucxc
I find it interesting that the fellow who only a year before had labored with detailed precision and perfected two masterpiece albums (although one didn't get finished) would make a comment like, "oh that was an accident, but it worked out, so we left it in...." Totally different work ethic there.
I guess BW left in mistakes before, because they worked. And he had been indifferent to clean mixes before, Today and Pet Sounds are messy as hell. Granted, Smiley Smile is full of weird mistakes and choices, but maybe his work ethic isn't that different.
I do believe it has been stated that the "Good" wasn't a mistake, but rather Brian edited it in to the track.
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Re: What a transition!
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July 29, 2012, 01:12:15 PM »
He had to have edited it in. Because if you listen to the session tape, you can hear Arnie Geller saying "good" right after the take, but a few seconds later to where it appeared in the final mix. So someone had to have done an edit to paste it in a few seconds earlier. So it's half a happy accident and half a conscious (and inspired!) playing around with found sound.
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