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« on: July 24, 2012, 01:42:16 PM »

I got a free subscription to a Dutch magazine called Nieuwe Revu a while ago and in last week's issue I found an interview with Bruce that ends with a somewhat painful mistake.

A few things Bruce mentions throughout the interview:
- He not trying to make anyone happy or sad with his music, he just enjoys singing, that's all.
- It doesn't really bother him that there are a lot of people that are unemployed, he thinks it's always been that way.
- It doesn't bother him at all that She Believes In Love Again didn't make the record.
- He thinks Summer In Paradise is a pretty good album.
- The only CD he's bought this year was 'Duets II' by Tony Bennett.
- He loves Lady Gaga and expects a whole lot from her in the future.
- He loves modern pop music. If he'd be young now, he'd want to be like Bruno Mars, or like Adele if he would've been a woman.

So far, so good. But when the interview is over, Bruce apparently forgets to put down the phone properly and the interviewer hears what he says to someone from Capitol Records. I'll translate it:

Bruce: "Hey, were you listening to the interview?"
Capitol guy: "Yeah, of course."
Bruce: "The guy is a dick!"
Capitol guy: "Haha."
Bruce: "Those Europeans are so... So indoctrinated by socialism. They don't realize that they just hate success. He tried to push me in a social direction the whole time. I figured him out, you know. So I kicked his ass for ten minutes, with a smile on my face."
Capitol guy: "That's why we always listen to the interviews, so we can interfere when people ask indecent questions. But it sounded like you two had a good time."
Bruce: "We did. But he tried to drag me into some negative story about our country. And that pisses me off!"

I'm not sure what pissed him off, the interviewer just asked if the band was trying to cheer people up with the new album in these difficult times, and apparently he didn't like that...
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2012, 01:46:24 PM »

Maybe... just maybe... Bruce is a bigger dick than Mike.  LOL
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2012, 01:48:32 PM »

Umm...Bruce is weird. 

I get a "Bruce Johnston: Conspiracy Theorist" kind of vibe from that conversation.
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2012, 01:50:29 PM »

Thanks for sharing that with us. I guess the Capitol guy was on the line too, and after Bruce thought the interviewer had hung up, he said all that stuff to the Capitol guy.
Not really surprised, since this board has had it's share of Bruce stories over the past year. I almost wish I didn't know all this stuff, it clouds your judgement. Everything should be based squarely on the music, but in this day and age that's an impossibility.
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2012, 01:52:04 PM »

Nothing new (about Bruce). But interesting anyway.

The Boys are all kinda crazy, in their own respective ways. I don't need to actually like the musicians I listen to (though if I do, it's obviously a plus).
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2012, 01:56:54 PM »

Bruce seems rather unpleasant and unusual behind his happy-go-lucky warm front unfortunately...
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2012, 01:58:14 PM »

Brian,Al and David are the most normal BBs. Grin
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 02:02:13 PM »

Bruce seems rather unpleasant and unusual behind his happy-go-lucky warm front unfortunately...
If he's pleasant, he's real pleasant, I suppose. You just shouldn't cross him with certain topics or favours.. it's like that with a many old gentlemen.  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 02:03:24 PM »

Well, he's right about Europe. I know that's a bitter pill for some, but hey.
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2012, 02:07:52 PM »

So what, not every country needs to be the USA. Bruce didnt expect a european to act european?
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2012, 02:09:44 PM »

Bruce is just.....weird..

I was watching some interview him and Mike did on youtube today during the promotion for the "Warmth of the sun" comp. He really likes selling the Beach Boys as a surf/car band. "The only four letter words we used in our music was, 'surf', 'girls' and 'cars'". He goes on to slam drugs and just give off the stereotypical version of The Beach Boys, the image Brian tried hard to shred.

He's an incredibly dorky guy and a bit of a dick too it seems
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2012, 02:10:31 PM »

Maybe... just maybe... Bruce is a bigger dick than Mike.  LOL

Maybe more Republican but not a bigger dick.
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2012, 02:10:53 PM »

So what, not every country needs to be the USA. Bruce didnt expect a european to act european?

Socialism is bankrupting the EU and is about to bankrupt the USA. But that's a topic for the Sandbox. Let's keep this on topic as best we can.
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2012, 02:17:56 PM »

Yeah, well lot's of European countries aren't based in socialism at all, anyway. But that's indeed Sandbox-talk.

The fact that Bruce gets pissed when a simple question about how great music can be comforting in hard times is asked, is shocking. That's not a political question, in my book. If it's true, because we know only one side of the story. Release the interview-tape and we can decide if Bruce was right or not.
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2012, 02:18:40 PM »

The topic itself is confusing; it is BJ or politics?  I will just say that Europeans are always trying to get Americans to say something to acknowledge our role is creating social injustice, so BJ is right.  I always find that Europeans will inject some scorn and provoke self-criticism from us--it's certainly true in academia.  So BJ was trying to escape that trap, which I appreciate, maintaining the apolitical nature of spiritual music, though he may not have made a complex, Maharishi-inspired explanation of spirit and music, as Carl would have. So, let's not fight about politics or call BB names; I have tried simply to gloss the event by identifying the cultural paradigm it reveals.  Good for you Bruce to resist the silly Euro-trash-trap.
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« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2012, 02:20:29 PM »

He goes on to slam drugs and just give off the stereotypical version of The Beach Boys, the image Brian tried hard to shred.




I don't think Brian cares about image. He's making music that he wants to make but let's the public business to others. Except for the short Derek Taylor periode I can't think about any time where I would say he actively tried to "shred" the image the band had at that certain time. Brian more than once jumped on that train, most recently with "Beaches in mind".
That said, I think Carl and Dennis (mostly Carl though) had the biggest issues with the surfer image.




BTW, could we get a transcript of the complete interview (in english), pleaese ?
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« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2012, 02:22:37 PM »

Well, he's right about Europe. I know that's a bitter pill for some, but hey.

It's not a matter of right or wrong, it's just a matter of a different cultural background. Americans don't like losers, Europeans don't like braggers.
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« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2012, 02:23:01 PM »

Bruce is just.....weird..

I was watching some interview him and Mike did on youtube today during the promotion for the "Warmth of the sun" comp. He really likes selling the Beach Boys as a surf/car band. "The only four letter words we used in our music was, 'surf', 'girls' and 'cars'".

I like how one of those isn't a four letter word.  LOL
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« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2012, 02:24:54 PM »

The topic itself is confusing; it is BJ or politics?  I will just say that Europeans are always trying to get Americans to say something to acknowledge our role is creating social injustice, so BJ is right.

You lost me at 'Europeans are always trying'...we are not that united! That's part of our problems!
Most Europeans (see what I did there?) love the USA and the American culture. Look at me, I'm typing in English on a Beach Boys-forum!
Let's all just kiss and make up, and laugh at Bruce's pants!
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« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2012, 02:28:22 PM »

Bruce is just.....weird..

I was watching some interview him and Mike did on youtube today during the promotion for the "Warmth of the sun" comp. He really likes selling the Beach Boys as a surf/car band. "The only four letter words we used in our music was, 'surf', 'girls' and 'cars'".

I like how one of those isn't a four letter word.  LOL

It might have been "Girl", either way, he needs to shut up  Grin




He goes on to slam drugs and just give off the stereotypical version of The Beach Boys, the image Brian tried hard to shred.




I don't think Brian cares about image. He's making music that he wants to make but let's the public business to others. Except for the short Derek Taylor periode I can't think about any time where I would say he actively tried to "shred" the image the band had at that certain time. Brian more than once jumped on that train, most recently with "Beaches in mind".
That said, I think Carl and Dennis (mostly Carl though) had the biggest issues with the surfer image.




BTW, could we get a transcript of the complete interview (in english), pleaese ?

Good point but Brian did reach incredible heights with this music, music that should be appreciated and acknowledged..
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« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2012, 02:31:17 PM »

If I had 10 minutes allocated to talk about the Beach Boys the last thing I would want to discuss is politics! As was said, it would be great to hear the whole interview to see who bought the subject up.
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« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2012, 02:34:42 PM »

Socialism is bankrupting the EU

Really? For as far as I know, my country has been ran by a conservative, a christian and a right-wing party for the past few years.
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« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2012, 02:43:52 PM »

Bruce is like one or two people on this board who can't let politics drop out of a single conversation.  Jezuz, people, it's not all about politics.  I'm not even sure if the interviewer brought up politics, since we don't have a transcript.  It could have been Bruce who introduced it when the guy talked about the Beach Boys making feel better about bad times.  I don't know what country YOU live in, but a lot of Americans are having bad economic times. If that makes people "jealous" because they lost their jobs or their houses, so be it. 

Bruce can stuff it.  Talk about being born on third base and believing you hit a triple.  Too bad Joe Blow from the wrong side of the tracks didn't adopt him instead of some drug store heir in Beverly Hills, or his impoverished single mom had kept him instead of giving him away.  Then perhaps he'd have a more nuanced view and be more respectful, no matter what side of the political spectrum he wound up on. I'm not jealous of your success, actually, Bruce.  I'm much happier with the parents I was born with.
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« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2012, 02:45:13 PM »

Socialism is bankrupting the EU

Really? For as far as I know, my country has been ran by a conservative, a christian and a right-wing party for the past few years.
This really doesn't belong here, but somebody who states something like "Socialism is bankrupting the EU." clearly doesn't know much about politics. ^^
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« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2012, 02:53:30 PM »

The topic itself is confusing; it is BJ or politics?  I will just say that Europeans are always trying to get Americans to say something to acknowledge our role is creating social injustice, so BJ is right.  I always find that Europeans will inject some scorn and provoke self-criticism from us--it's certainly true in academia.  So BJ was trying to escape that trap, which I appreciate, maintaining the apolitical nature of spiritual music, though he may not have made a complex, Maharishi-inspired explanation of spirit and music, as Carl would have. So, let's not fight about politics or call BB names; I have tried simply to gloss the event by identifying the cultural paradigm it reveals.  Good for you Bruce to resist the silly Euro-trash-trap.

Ugh, this guy's fancily-worded BS continues to annoy the heck out of me. Especially when he think he's some kind of moral and intellectual superior and then throws in that arrogant last line as if it's the last word on the subject. Ugh, people bring out the worst in politics and vice versa.

Anyway, yeah I don't understand Bruce, his attitude or his politics but I enjoy his music and voice. I'm just too small a human-being to let the trivial things not bother me.
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