Show 50: Cuthbert Amphitheatre - Eugene, OR 7/14/12

[JanBerryFarm]

I think people are entitled to their opinion that they just plain don't like Jeff's voice.  Put me in that category.  But it is what it is and for a number of reasons people have cited Jeff will be there.  There aren't many men who sing a good falsetto and while I don't like his tone, I've heard way worse than Jeff.  The non-falsetto singers have off nights, too, including the lead vocalists. It just happens sometimes.

Well stated. I totally agree that there aren't many men who sing a good falsetto. Far and few between. But they are out there. Jeff's voice, to me, just sounds very undisciplined.

Somebody defended Jeff by pointing out that nobody will ever sound like Brian Wilson. While this is true (and that's a good thing) it is not a good excuse for off key singing in a band as famous as the Beach Boys. That's ok, maybe for Papa Do Ron Ron or Surf City Allstars etc., but the Beach Boys is the big time.

[drbeachboy]

I think people are entitled to their opinion that they just plain don't like Jeff's voice.  Put me in that category.  But it is what it is and for a number of reasons people have cited Jeff will be there.  There aren't many men who sing a good falsetto and while I don't like his tone, I've heard way worse than Jeff.  The non-falsetto singers have off nights, too, including the lead vocalists. It just happens sometimes.

Well stated. I totally agree that there aren't many men who sing a good falsetto. Far and few between. But they are out there. Jeff's voice, to me, just sounds very undisciplined.

Somebody defended Jeff by pointing out that nobody will ever sound like Brian Wilson. While this is true (and that's a good thing) it is not a good excuse for off key singing in a band as famous as the Beach Boys. That's ok, maybe for Papa Do Ron Ron or Surf City Allstars etc., but the Beach Boys is the big time.

The Beach Boys themselves have had their fair share of off-key singing throughout their career. The band can have a bad show. Between his first stint with The Boys', and with Brian's band, Jeff has been a pretty steady singer.

[Rocker]

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[JanBerryFarm]

I think people are entitled to their opinion that they just plain don't like Jeff's voice.  Put me in that category.  But it is what it is and for a number of reasons people have cited Jeff will be there.  There aren't many men who sing a good falsetto and while I don't like his tone, I've heard way worse than Jeff.  The non-falsetto singers have off nights, too, including the lead vocalists. It just happens sometimes.

Well stated. I totally agree that there aren't many men who sing a good falsetto. Far and few between. But they are out there. Jeff's voice, to me, just sounds very undisciplined.

Somebody defended Jeff by pointing out that nobody will ever sound like Brian Wilson. While this is true (and that's a good thing) it is not a good excuse for off key singing in a band as famous as the Beach Boys. That's ok, maybe for Papa Do Ron Ron or Surf City Allstars etc., but the Beach Boys is the big time.

The Beach Boys themselves have had their fair share of off-key singing throughout their career. The band can have a bad show. Between his first stint with The Boys', and with Brian's band, Jeff has been a pretty steady singer.

OKAY....fine. I'll end this by saying that Jeff, bless his heart, is a better high voice than Dean. 

[drbeachboy]

I think people are entitled to their opinion that they just plain don't like Jeff's voice.  Put me in that category.  But it is what it is and for a number of reasons people have cited Jeff will be there.  There aren't many men who sing a good falsetto and while I don't like his tone, I've heard way worse than Jeff.  The non-falsetto singers have off nights, too, including the lead vocalists. It just happens sometimes.

Well stated. I totally agree that there aren't many men who sing a good falsetto. Far and few between. But they are out there. Jeff's voice, to me, just sounds very undisciplined.

Somebody defended Jeff by pointing out that nobody will ever sound like Brian Wilson. While this is true (and that's a good thing) it is not a good excuse for off key singing in a band as famous as the Beach Boys. That's ok, maybe for Papa Do Ron Ron or Surf City Allstars etc., but the Beach Boys is the big time.

The Beach Boys themselves have had their fair share of off-key singing throughout their career. The band can have a bad show. Between his first stint with The Boys', and with Brian's band, Jeff has been a pretty steady singer.

OKAY....fine. I'll end this by saying that Jeff, bless his heart, is a better high voice than Dean. 

You act like Jeff sings off-key at every show and that just isn't true. I feel bad that he wasn't up to par for your show, but sh*t happens sometimes. Out of all of the shows that I have attended, I have heard Mike, Brian, and Al have bad shows. Carl is only one that I never experienced a bad show, but we know that he too had a few, as well.

[JanBerryFarm]

*whew* this is getting tiring..  ...

I started off noting that he was flat all the way through 'I Get Around' as witnessed on the above You Tube link, rendering that song (IMO) virtually unlistenable..unless one has a tin ear.

Whereas it is true that some people don't have listening skills, many people do.

But I appreciate your concern. I just won't listen to that link anymore. It's too painful.

It is worth pointing out, however, that I'm not the only person who objects to off key singing.  At least according to many of the posts I've read here.

[SMiLE Brian]

*whew* this is getting tiring..  ...

I started off noting that he was flat all the way through 'I Get Around' as witnessed on the above You Tube link, rendering that song (IMO) virtually unlistenable..unless one has a tin ear.

Whereas it is true that some people don't have listening skills, many people do.

But I appreciate your concern. I just won't listen to that link anymore. It's too painful.

It is worth pointing out, however, that I'm not the only person who objects to off key singing.  At least according to many of the posts I've read here.

I like Jeff's voice, but I highly respect your opinions and like that keep with your own ideas like Mike Love would.

[JanBerryFarm]

*whew* this is getting tiring..  ...

I started off noting that he was flat all the way through 'I Get Around' as witnessed on the above You Tube link, rendering that song (IMO) virtually unlistenable..unless one has a tin ear.

Whereas it is true that some people don't have listening skills, many people do.

But I appreciate your concern. I just won't listen to that link anymore. It's too painful.

It is worth pointing out, however, that I'm not the only person who objects to off key singing.  At least according to many of the posts I've read here.

I like Jeff's voice, but I highly respect your opinions and like that keep with your own ideas like Mike Love would.

May I suggest diagramming a few sentences. It could assist you in their construction. 

[SMiLE Brian]

*whew* this is getting tiring..  ...

I started off noting that he was flat all the way through 'I Get Around' as witnessed on the above You Tube link, rendering that song (IMO) virtually unlistenable..unless one has a tin ear.

Whereas it is true that some people don't have listening skills, many people do.

But I appreciate your concern. I just won't listen to that link anymore. It's too painful.

It is worth pointing out, however, that I'm not the only person who objects to off key singing.  At least according to many of the posts I've read here.

I like Jeff's voice, but I highly respect your opinions and like that keep with your own ideas like Mike Love would.

May I suggest diagramming a few sentences. It could assist you in their construction. 

Show me professor.

[JanBerryFarm]

*whew* this is getting tiring..  ...

I started off noting that he was flat all the way through 'I Get Around' as witnessed on the above You Tube link, rendering that song (IMO) virtually unlistenable..unless one has a tin ear.

Whereas it is true that some people don't have listening skills, many people do.

But I appreciate your concern. I just won't listen to that link anymore. It's too painful.

It is worth pointing out, however, that I'm not the only person who objects to off key singing.   At least according to many of the posts I've read here.

I like Jeff's voice, but I highly respect your opinions and like that keep with your own ideas like Mike Love would.

May I suggest diagramming a few sentences. It could assist you in their construction.  

Show me professor.

Well, we're here having a substantive , albeit somewhat charged, debate about the quality of the Beach Boys high singer, and then you come in with this unresponsive non-sequiter that starts out sympathetic, and then becomes a train-wreck  Mike Love put down; or at least that's what it seemed like after trying to make heads of tails of it.

So what do you expect?

By the way, I think the professor is another bloke.

ROCKER ---- Nice pictures. You were close to the stage. Too many shots of Dave Marks though...get some of Al next time. *hehe*

[SMiLE Brian]

*whew* this is getting tiring..  ...

I started off noting that he was flat all the way through 'I Get Around' as witnessed on the above You Tube link, rendering that song (IMO) virtually unlistenable..unless one has a tin ear.

Whereas it is true that some people don't have listening skills, many people do.

But I appreciate your concern. I just won't listen to that link anymore. It's too painful.

It is worth pointing out, however, that I'm not the only person who objects to off key singing.  At least according to many of the posts I've read here.

I like Jeff's voice, but I highly respect your opinions and like that keep with your own ideas like Mike Love would.

May I suggest diagramming a few sentences. It could assist you in their construction. 

Show me professor.

Well, we're here having a substantive , albeit somewhat charged, debate about the quality of the Beach Boys high singer, and then you come in with this unresponsive non-sequiter that starts out sympathetic, and then becomes a train-wreck  Mike Love put down; or at least that's what it seemed like after trying to make heads of tails of it.

So what do you expect?

BTW, I think the professor is another bloke.

Hell I give up, I didn't mean to make a Mike Love put-down. I just was trying to comment positively that you keep your ideas on the band strong like Mike Love has for 50 years.

[JanBerryFarm]

*shrugs*

Well, that's a problem isn't it.

Too much Mike bashing around here.

If I misinterpretted, I'm sorry. Not used to being compared to someone as reviled around here as Mike Love.

[drbeachboy]

*whew* this is getting tiring..  ...

I started off noting that he was flat all the way through 'I Get Around' as witnessed on the above You Tube link, rendering that song (IMO) virtually unlistenable..unless one has a tin ear.

Whereas it is true that some people don't have listening skills, many people do.

But I appreciate your concern. I just won't listen to that link anymore. It's too painful.

It is worth pointing out, however, that I'm not the only person who objects to off key singing.  At least according to many of the posts I've read here.

I like Jeff's voice, but I highly respect your opinions and like that keep with your own ideas like Mike Love would.

May I suggest diagramming a few sentences. It could assist you in their construction. 

Show me professor.

Well, we're here having a substantive , albeit somewhat charged, debate about the quality of the Beach Boys high singer, and then you come in with this unresponsive non-sequiter that starts out sympathetic, and then becomes a train-wreck  Mike Love put down; or at least that's what it seemed like after trying to make heads of tails of it.

So what do you expect?

By the way, I think the professor is another bloke.

ROCKER ---- Nice pictures. You were close to the stage. Too many shots of Dave Marks though...get some of Al next time. *hehe*

Hey, you could have Adrian Baker and he'd suck for the whole tour.

[Bud Shaver]

I think this thread needs a picture of Brian's pre-show foot:

[Pretty Funky]

What is the owner of the other shoe doing?

[Bud Shaver]

What is the owner of the other shoe doing?

Serving cake, of course...

[Bud Shaver]

Here's a link to some of my photos:  http://flic.kr/s/aHsjAHrfej

Enjoy!

[Lowbacca]

Facebook:

Al looks so great in these photos....  And 10-20 years younger.

[AndrewHickey]

*whew* this is getting tiring..  ...

I started off noting that he was flat all the way through 'I Get Around' as witnessed on the above You Tube link, rendering that song (IMO) virtually unlistenable..unless one has a tin ear.

Whereas it is true that some people don't have listening skills, many people do.

I don't think anyone's denied that Jeff is flat on that recording. What they've said is that he isn't *usually* flat. I've seen Jeff live with Brian's band eight times and on his own once, and have never heard him sing flat in person. The closest I've heard is that sometimes, on the highest part of his range, he starts maybe a quarter-tone flat and then pulls up to the note, which is something Brian used to do sometimes as well and which may well be a deliberate technique (it makes it sound like more of an effort to reach the note, and thus more exciting).

You may not personally like the timbre of his voice, but he's at least as competent and professional as any of the other falsetto singers the band has featured and is a better all-round vocalist than most of them. Given that Brian can't sing those parts any more, he's as reasonable a choice as any I know of to sing them on purely musical grounds.

[Rocker]

ROCKER ---- Nice pictures. You were close to the stage. Too many shots of Dave Marks though...get some of Al next time. *hehe*

As stated, I only took them from Facebook (Al's links). I haven't been to a show yet (that'll change in august)

[Rocker]

Yeah, Mike did one of his crazy "Rock and roll Hall of Fame style rants" against the Oregon Ducks for 5 minutes that did not go down well with the crowd and stopped the momentum of the show.  

What exactly did he say ? And about what was he talking ? Something with Kevin, right ?

I Get Around from another perspective:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hccaHpIMB6g


Surfer Girl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-a7sdtbcok&feature=related

[EgoHanger1966]

Yeah, Mike did one of his crazy "Rock and roll Hall of Fame style rants" against the Oregon Ducks for 5 minutes that did not go down well with the crowd and stopped the momentum of the show.  

What exactly did he say ? And about what was he talking ? Something with Kevin, right ?

I Get Around from another perspective:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hccaHpIMB6g


Surfer Girl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-a7sdtbcok&feature=related

Here's the 'rant':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvnI57XCJ2k

[Rocker]

Yeah, Mike did one of his crazy "Rock and roll Hall of Fame style rants" against the Oregon Ducks for 5 minutes that did not go down well with the crowd and stopped the momentum of the show.  

What exactly did he say ? And about what was he talking ? Something with Kevin, right ?

I Get Around from another perspective:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hccaHpIMB6g


Surfer Girl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-a7sdtbcok&feature=related

Here's the 'rant':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvnI57XCJ2k

Thanks. Um... I can understand him. On the other hand....well...wtf


The user has more videos up. Here's Don't Worry Baby:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbdNKf2S2t0&feature=channel&list=UL

[SIP.FLAC]

Facebook:

Al looks so great in these photos....  And 10-20 years younger.

Agreed, he looks much younger than his actual age of 130.

[SIP.FLAC]

And good for Mike.